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Give this gay asylum seeker an even break
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jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Armi:
“No.

We have enough people on this island already.

Send him and all of the others back, or let some other country take them.”

Why should we be the only country to refuse asylum claims?
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by HP.80 Victor:
“Agree with it or not, but homosexuality is illegal in Uganda and despite him knowing the law he decided to break it. Why should we have to take him in?”

Because it's the decent thing to do?
Elyan
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“Why should we be the only country to refuse asylum claims?”

Because we've got enough people already?
Fairyprincess0
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“Because we've got enough people already?”

How can anyone reasonably begin to quantify that?? Have you do in depth studies, or is this just a lazy generalization?

Are you going to also tell people to stop having children, too?

Or regulate it, so the same number of people dying are being born???
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“Because we've got enough people already?”

So how come we haven't stopped all non-EU immigration completely? In any case, asylum seekers only make up about 4% of immigrants.
Ben_Copland
07-12-2016
He won't die if and when he goes back to Uganda, it's just words to make people sign the petition. Different rules for different folks and all.
nic6
07-12-2016
Send him back we have enough parasites already thanks that's why Brexit won.
Namira
07-12-2016
It's pretty crappy in Uganda for a lot of people though, he isn't the only one. It's terrible to be a woman in Uganda which does not have gender equality or a child from a poor family in Uganda where child labour is rife. We aren't responsible for everyone in the world who comes from a corrupt, bigoted shithole and we can't take them all in.
Ironwithin
07-12-2016
I feel sorry for the guy if he is telling the truth, but we have to look after our own country and people first and decisions like this open the floodgates for everyone from Uganda who claims they are gay getting to stay here.
So boot him out. He can either live there without flaunting his sexuality or try claiming asylum in another country, maybe one closer to home.
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by nic6:
“Send him back we have enough parasites already thanks that's why Brexit won.”

Why would he be a parasite? And if anyone voted Brexit because they thought it might stop us taking asylum seekers, they were showing a worrying degree of ignorance.
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ben_Copland:
“I know they do. But unless he goes back and tells everyone, I expect he'll be fine.

Anyway, we don't know the real reason why he is being deported, it obviously isn't because he's gay, sexual orientation doesn't and shouldn't play a part in these decisions, then everyone would just claim they're gay so they don't get sent back.”

Of course it should, if it's relevant to the case for asylum.
eggchen
07-12-2016
Why has it taken eleven years to process this man's apparent asylum claim then?
Chihiro77
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“If we had everyone here who is in trouble we would have no money, housing or standard of life ourselves though. He could go to neighbouring or nearby safe places, there's a lot of countries between here and Uganda, why here?

.Should every other gay man in Uganda be allowed to come here too? if not why this guy? What about our gay homeless or people in shelters because as single men they don't get council housing when they lose their house because they lost their job etc..

It is an emotional case, but there will be potentially millions more people encouraged here if we make special cases. e.g. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....faced-10444200”

I doubt the gay men here are facing death for their sexuality. The usual excuse from people here 'what about our own...' when actually they don't give a shit about our own at any other time.
Elyan
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fairyprincess0:
“How can anyone reasonably begin to quantify that?? Have you do in depth studies, or is this just a lazy generalization?

Are you going to also tell people to stop having children, too?

Or regulate it, so the same number of people dying are being born???”

No of course we can't do anything about people having children. But we can stop people we don't need from migrating here.

We should only be allowing entry to people who will fill jobs that we can't fill with the people we have here already.
hobbes
07-12-2016
There have been cases where potential asylum seekers falsely claimed they were gay to win appeals so I guess the Home office is pretty rigorous in investigating. It does seen as though this is genuine and that Jimmie is actively contributing to society.

I think we should be focusing on trying to change attitudes and culture in countries with violently homophobic laws. Uganda is still in the Commonwealth and a trading partner of the UK. It took a huge global movement to effect change in South Africa during the apartheid period.
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“No of course we can't do anything about people having children. But we can stop people we don't need from migrating here.

We should only be allowing entry to people who will fill jobs that we can't fill with the people we have here already.”

Why can't we also allow the relatively small number of people who are fleeing from persecution? It's not a huge burden, and is in line with our international obligations.
dee123
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by nic6:
“Send him back we have enough parasites already thanks that's why Brexit won.”

'Cause people showed their true racist colours, like you are now? Yep.
andy1231
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by CBFreak:
“He's in a relationship with a guy here in the UK. He has a reason to be in the UK.”

Why ? I don;t care if he was in a relationship with a man or a woman, why should he be allowed to stay just because of said relationship ?
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“Why ? I don;t care if he was in a relationship with a man or a woman, why should he be allowed to stay just because of said relationship ?”

Because if he's in a relationship with a man, it kind of proves that he's gay!
blueblade
07-12-2016
Something else is pissing me off about this case, and although it may be my browser, I think I should mention it. Last night when I started this thread and googled Jimmy's name, a number of articles came up, one of which I was just going to link to. But suddenly I can't see a single sodding one of them, not even some mainstream media reports from a few months ago. What the chuff is all that about?

I'll try Yahoo.

ETA: same with Yahoo.
zx50
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“Why ? I don;t care if he was in a relationship with a man or a woman, why should he be allowed to stay just because of said relationship ?”

Uganda doesn't exactly treat LGBT people in a good way. In fact, they kill them. I'm assuming transgender people also get killed.
Thine Wonk
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Uganda doesn't exactly treat LGBT people in a good way. In fact, they kill them. I'm assuming transgender people also get killed.”

That's why they don't advertise their sexuality in public and anything that happens goes on behind the scenes. However wrong that is, the answer isn't to say ok anyone who wants to can come to the UK and live instead and we'll house them and give them everything they need.
jjwales
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“That's why they don't advertise their sexuality in public and anything that happens goes on behind the scenes. However wrong that is, the answer isn't to say ok anyone who wants to can come to the UK and live instead and we'll house them and give them everything they need.”

No one is suggesting that they should all come to the UK, and they don't necessarily all want to come here.
zx50
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“That's why they don't advertise their sexuality in public and anything that happens goes on behind the scenes. However wrong that is, the answer isn't to say ok anyone who wants to can come to the UK and live instead and we'll house them and give them everything they need.”

Well, I hope he's okay if he gets sent back.
Thine Wonk
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“No one is suggesting that they should all come to the UK, and they don't necessarily all want to come here.”

If we go soft and don't deport people who are here, many more will come though.

The lefties don't see the issue as they are comfortable. 1M new people come to the UK every 3 years it is becoming unsustainable, we've all seen the recent effect politically where a massive amount of the population want to see net migration down, rather than at record levels.
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