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Ukip Donor Mansplains Fall Of Roman Empire To Classicist Mary Beard |
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No, it's a buzzword and quit trying to mansplain to me it's not.
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I'm neither disgruntled nor a feminist.
No doubt someone will pipe up with the usual Feminazi and miss the irony of that buzzword. ![]()
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No you'd be a feminist sympathiser.....maybe a white knight or a mangina?
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Nah, just some bloke on a message board.
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Nah, just some bloke on a message board.
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You're a cuck, whatever that is.
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This thread is making me very mangry
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This thread is making me very mangry
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Of course it was politically motivated. However I think its somewhat different for a layman to post a politically motivated statement, than it is for an expert who some people will take as fact simply because of their status
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First, why do you think his opinion was baseless. Do you think the barbarian migrations didn't play a role in the fall of the western empire? That's pretty far fetched IMO. The last book I read on the subject put it as one of the primary causes.
Second, you miss the point I was making. Beard has every right to disagree with banks, it's the way she went about it which I object to. She made no effort to debate the facts, no counter arguments, no "you should try reading the latest research by x who demonstrated that x was the cause of the fall of the western empire". Nope none of that. Just I'm right and your wrong. That's not rational debate, it's just appeal to authority, a blatant logical fallacy. And why should Beard engage with him? Banks wasn't trying to start a debate, he was stating bald and incorrect facts. If he wanted to debate or start a discussion that's what he would have done but he first of all tried to defend himself and then backed down when faced with someone with much more expertise. That's not someone who either wants or who you can engage with properly so why should Beard waste her time other than to say that he's wrong? And twitter isn't exactly the best place for any of that anyway. Quote:
Of course it's complicated, and I'm more than happy for beard to disagree,its the way she went about it that I think was wrong.
Anyway, I've spent enough of my time defending someone I think is a bit of a part, against someone I respect, so I'll bow out now. |
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But it's not an idiotic buzzword, it's a word which describes a specific thing concisely.
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I hate it when I hear femwhining and fewwittering historians
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I hate it when I hear femwhining and fewwittering historians
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Personally, I wouldn't dare offer an opinion on the fall of the Roman Empire to Mary Beard. The risk of making an utter fool of yourself is quite high. I'd enjoy her femsplaining it to me though.
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I hate it when I hear femwhining and fewwittering historians
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Are you fem-shaming? You sjw, you!!
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It appears he's not only "fem-shaming" but "few-shaming" too.
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No it's a sexist buzzword designed to shut people up and shut down conversation on the sole basis of someone's gender.
I quite like this vid showing the hypocrisy of it. It’s a bit long with a lot of lead in, but makes the point well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKAgYvPDxO4 |
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