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Old 06-12-2016, 22:18
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Which is 5% less than your own.

Cameron says we'll leave the single market if we vote Brexit.
Britain votes for Brexit.
Remoaners claim we didn't vote to leave the single market.

Mmm'kay.
Cameron said lots of things and the concensus on here and in most of the media was that he lied a lot.
In fact a common post from brexiters was "I don't believe a word he says"
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:25
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Cameron said lots of things and the concensus on here and in most of the media was that he lied a lot.
In fact a common post from brexiters was "I don't believe a word he says"
But on this issue he, Osborne, Gove, Boris, Leadsom and even Gisela Stuart were clear - a leave vote is a vote to leave the single market.

Gisela Stuart would never lie - she is a grandmother!
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:29
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But on this issue he, Osborne, Gove, Boris, Leadsom and even Gisela Stuart were clear - a leave vote is a vote to leave the single market.

Gisela Stuart would never lie - she is a grandmother!
Tut tut, you should know by now that only remoaners get to decide who lied, who was lied to and what was a lie.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:34
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Err... right. Remind me. How many nations are
a) In the EU?
b) Not in the EU?

I guess 'isolated' has taken on new meaning..
Well, not many European ones [are not in the EU], the others are all quite a way away.

It's a bit like sitting in the away end wearing home colours, there may be more home colours than away ones in the ground but you're still pretty isolated.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:40
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I don't give a flying fox about what Nuttall or any Leave voter thinks because:

1. The choice of potential post-Brexit options was definitely not on any referendum ballot paper;

2. Leaving the single market area would be the ultimate, extreme act of economic self destruction and it should quite simply not be allowed to happen no matter how much it upsets Brexit extremists.
The goal was clear, leave the EU, leave the single market. It was said repeatedly by both sides. Now what the government will go about trying to arrange is access to the single market, completely different concept.

I would request you choose your words better in future, those who voted Leave/Brexit are not extremists. Then again it seems typical of the left, when they lose their argument they resort to pathetic labels which do nothing but make them look like utter mugs.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:43
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Well, not many European ones [are not in the EU], the others are all quite a way away.

It's a bit like sitting in the away end wearing home colours, there may be more home colours than away ones in the ground but you're still pretty isolated.
Why'll we're doing football analogies- Maybe fearful of leaving league 2 with a 40,000 stadium and fan base just because that's where you spent the last 40 odd years.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:44
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Hmm? Really? Perhaps we could join one of those? Or.. Hey! Don't we still have that 'Commonwealth' thingy?
Indeed we do, how do you think we might make better use of that outside the EU, specifically?
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:45
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The goal was clear, leave the EU, leave the single market. It was said repeatedly by both sides. Now what the government will go about trying to arrange is access to the single market, completely different concept.

I would request you choose your words better in future, those who voted Leave/Brexit are not extremists. Then again it seems typical of the left, when they lose their argument they resort to pathetic labels which do nothing but make them look like utter mugs.
Agreed.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:45
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Why'll we're doing football analogies- Maybe fearful of leaving league 2 with a 40,000 stadium and fan base just because that's where you spent the last 40 odd years.
For the Conference, just because they don't have a transfer window, yes.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:46
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The goal was clear, leave the EU, leave the single market. It was said repeatedly by both sides. Now what the government will go about trying to arrange is access to the single market, completely different concept.

I would request you choose your words better in future, those who voted Leave/Brexit are not extremists. Then again it seems typical of the left, when they lose their argument they resort to pathetic labels which do nothing but make them look like utter mugs.
Hmmmm.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:47
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The general population will not tolerate freedom of movement as it is. This is the lowest common denominator. We could be debating this for years but the end result would be the same.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:49
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They mention having tariff free access to the European market not the single market. Not the same thing. Suggest you listen to what you post.
Have no idea what the Indian singer has to do with it though.

Cameron told the truth. We believed him and voted accordingly.
'leaving would be like planting a “bomb” under the British economy.'

That's what you believed and voted for? Gee, thanks.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:52
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The general population will not tolerate freedom of movement as it is. This is the lowest common denominator. We could be debating this for years but the end result would be the same.
Yet 48% voted specifically to retain FoM. Doesn't take many Brexiters to have voted out for other reasons to make a majority.
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:56
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For the Conference, just because they don't have a transfer window, yes.
Greece, Spain and Portugal are in the conference and the EU
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Old 06-12-2016, 22:59
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Yet 48% voted specifically to retain FoM. Doesn't take many Brexiters to have voted out for other reasons to make a majority.
Well, we've had months of running commentary by 'experts'...I'm willing to bet my amateur observation will probably be spot on. Might be a few years though...
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:01
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Amazing isn't it? No sense of irony whatsoever, would be hilarious if it wasn't so prevalent in all arguments
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:16
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Indeed we do, how do you think we might make better use of that outside the EU, specifically?
Crazy idea. We could... Enter into trade deals with them?
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:39
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Yet 48% voted specifically to retain FoM. Doesn't take many Brexiters to have voted out for other reasons to make a majority.
And there was me thinking they only voted remain because of the £4300 a year Osborne promised they would get if we stayed in.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:44
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And there was me thinking they only voted remain because of the £4300 a year Osborne promised they would get if we stayed in.
Yet another Brexiter so worried they resort to lying.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:46
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Greece, Spain and Portugal are in the conference and the EU
National League I should have said.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:47
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Well, not many European ones [are not in the EU], the others are all quite a way away.

It's a bit like sitting in the away end wearing home colours, there may be more home colours than away ones in the ground but you're still pretty isolated.
Well 22 are (not including the Vatican City. That's more than "not many". For the rest we do have air freight and container ships. Hardly isolated.

To use your football analogy we are currently near the bottom of the Championship and heading for relegation in the EU. A few good transfer deals and we'll be in the Premiership.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:47
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Crazy idea. We could... Enter into trade deals with them?
So, you've no idea what specifically we could then? Just "trade deals" with no idea of how that might benefit us specifically.
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:49
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Well 22 are (not including the Vatican City. That's more than "not many". For the rest we do have air freight and container ships. Hardly isolated.

To use your football analogy we are currently near the bottom of the Championship and heading for relegation in the EU. A few good transfer deals and we'll be in the Premiership.
And how were we heading for relegation in the EU? And if we can't cope in the European Championship how would we do better in the World Cup?
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:52
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Yet another Brexiter so worried they resort to lying.
What do you mean lying? I really don't appreciate being called a liar?

Do you not remember the £4300 claim by Osborne?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36070761

How can you be 100 per cent certain that all the 48 per cent voted remain to keep freedom of movement rather than to get the £4300. Cos apparently we all just voted leave due to the £350m a week for the NHS?
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Old 06-12-2016, 23:55
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Yet another Brexiter so worried they resort to lying.
You seem very fond of calling out people for lying when they haven't.
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