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Twenty reasons why Brexit will be even trickier than we thought |
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Twenty reasons why Brexit will be even trickier than we thought
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...han-we-thought Such as: Quote:
The government is pretending bad news doesn’t exist Directors of trade bodies – many of them facing economic and regulatory disaster – went in to brief David Davis when he was made Brexit secretary. But before they got to his office they were taken to one side by civil servants and advised to go in saying Brexit was full of “opportunities”. Anyone who didn’t tended to be asked to leave after five minutes. Quote:
There are no rules for what Britain is doing because no one has been stupid enough to try it If Britain does pursue a hard Brexit, things get murky. There are no rules on how an existing WTO member leaves a customs union, because no one has ever been crazy enough to try it. Lawyers at the organisation are trying to sort out how this works and what the process will be. Quote:
The UK steel industry could collapse overnight There’s an EU agreement at the WTO preventing China from dumping cheap steel in Europe. Without it, plants such as Port Talbot would collapse as Chinese product flooded the market. When Britain leaves the EU, it will claim that it is still a signatory to this agreement and the Chinese will object. This dispute is likely to last for years. If Britain loses, it will likely lose its domestic steel industry. Quote:
Britain may be about to adopt lower US standards on … everything
The Americans have lower consumer standards than Europe on pretty much everything, from chemical safety to data protection. A bilateral trade deal will see them demand we lower our standards so their products can enter our market more freely. Given how desperate we’ll be, we’re likely to comply. |
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Thank you for your tireless work.
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Can you give 20 reasons for posting the same kinda stuff over and over again?
Most of it without substance....... Yeah thought not. |
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Can you give 20 reasons for posting the same kinda stuff over and over again?
Most of it without substance....... Yeah thought not. Yeah thought not. |
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Can you tell us why the article is wrong?
Yeah thought not. 1. We voted to leave, and we are. |
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I can do it in 1.
1. We voted to leave, and we are. But to be fair that seems to be pretty much par for Brexit supporters. No answers, just insults, deflection and flag waving. |
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You failed to answer any of the issues raised in the article.
But to be fair that seems to be pretty much par for Brexit supporters. No answers, just insults, deflection and flag waving.
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I didn't fail at all, the answers to the usual scare blurb is contained in the other million threads you have started on the same subject. Tedious at best, desperate at worst, still if it make you happy. Off to wave my flag again.
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I didn't fail at all, the answers to the usual scare blurb is contained in the other million threads you have started on the same subject. Tedious at best, desperate at worst, still if it make you happy. Off to wave my flag again.
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Again, no answers to any of the points raised in the article. If the answers are in the other threads then I am sure you can provide them easily.
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Does anyone honestly think there will even be a brexit? with all this fighting against it and the sheer scale of what is needed to remove this cancer that is the EU?
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Yes I could, but I don't have to, but you can knock yourself out if you like, and answer your own questions. Have a good evening.
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Hysterical rubbish from the Guardian.
Until now I've really disliked the term 'Remoaner' but it's starting to grow on me with these daily rantings from the pro-EU lobby. |
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Such a shame all this Guardian-quoting and general foot soldiering is essentially anonymous, else he'd doubtless have qualified for some kind of Euro Légion d'honneur by now.
Still, hopefully enough for a grateful au revoir as we leave, lol ... |
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So in other words the answers are not in the other threads and as usual the Brexit supporters have no answers. Go on, just one of the 20 points raised, to start with, you can choose.
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I don't get the point being made about the UK steel industry.
We've been in the EU for decades. The UK steel industry has done nothing but steadily decline throughout that period. The EU isn't exactly renowned for reacting quickly to events. To paraphrase the old saying, the horse hasn't merely bolted but probably lived out the rest of its life and died of old age before the EU will come to a collective stable door shutting agreement and I've lost count of how many times I've heard that EU rules prevent state intervention when industries are struggling. I also don't like the point about being the first nation to jump ship because the rules aren't clear. Growing numbers of people across Europe believe the ship is taking on water and in drastic need of repair. The EU institution doesn't. It has the arrogance of the captain of the Costa Concordia, hence why the established order is coming under threat from the extreme wings of the political spectrum right across the region. The two main contenders for next years French elections are the far right and the "sorry I can't quite tell who that is because they're stood so far out to the right" The Italians are becoming increasingly twitchy about the Euro and their banking system is apparently on the verge of a meltdown. Internal borders are going up The EU's response to those observations makes the chilled Jamaican on the beach stereotype look positively anxious by comparison. Whether jumping ship proves to be the right or wrong move remains to be seen. Personally I think we've probably jumped ship a wee bit too early and that the captains of said ship will eventually realise that they've got to change course - but I don't blame people for being sick of waiting and saying enough is enough and even though I voted to stay onboard and wait it out, now the decision is made i'm all for getting on that lifeboat and putting a bit of water between us and a possible rush. |
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Can you tell us why the article is wrong?
Yeah thought not. |
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The Guardian is slowly becoming as clickbait ly as Buzzfeed, by this time next year it will be: TWENTY REASONS WHY BREXIT WILL BE EVEN TRICKIER THAN WE THOUGHT AND WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
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Britain may be about to adopt lower US standards on … everything I agree with this quote. It's worrying and would hate this to happen.
The Americans have lower consumer standards than Europe on pretty much everything, from chemical safety to data protection. A bilateral trade deal will see them demand we lower our standards so their products can enter our market more freely. Given how desperate we’ll be, we’re likely to comply. |
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[quote=TheEngineer;84814026Britain may be about to adopt lower US standards on … everything
The Americans have lower consumer standards than Europe on pretty much everything, from chemical safety to data protection. A bilateral trade deal will see them demand we lower our standards so their products can enter our market more freely. Given how desperate we’ll be, we’re likely to comply. :[/QUOTE] I'm not so sure this is true - many of the health and safety rules originally came from this country. |
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Can you tell us why the article is wrong?
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naked of logic, reason and common sense..
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You failed to answer any of the issues raised in the article.
But to be fair that seems to be pretty much par for Brexit supporters. No answers, just insults, deflection and flag waving. All the answers lie in the majority voting to leave, ultimately, only the government is failing to secure our leaving. As an old motto said, "There is no crime except incompetence". |
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Lots of desperate could be, might be and may's as usual , or AKA Bull shit !
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Can you tell us why the article is wrong?
Yeah thought not. |
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