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Yes, but six years too late.
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David Cameron's resignation only proved what a weak leader he was. It's not in the UK's national interest to have a weak leader, so therefore he did the right thing.
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It was always an added incentive in the run up to the referendum that if we voted to leave then we could also kill two birds with one stone - get the UK out of the EU and get rid of Cameron as PM along with it, plus Osborne on top. I was telling a few in the family that this was the dream outcome for voting leave. It all came to pass and made the summer for me. The only annoyance I have is that Cameron didn't follow through on his promise to run off to Brussels on 24th June to enact Article 50. Funny how when the reality of the situation hit that he couldn't actually dare to do it.
Cameron was simply Blair-lite. His airbrushing out of politics since the summer has been brutal but magnificent. However much as I dislike him there is the irony that we should be eternally grateful for the chance he gave us to vote this nation out of the EU, so on that basis alone he was wonderful. |
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He didn't really have a choice and he'd be damned either way by those who'd use any excuse to slag him off. Even if it were 52-48% the other way they'd slag him off for taking what turned out to be a bloody huge risk with the economy simply because he couldn't control his back benches blah, blah, blah rinse and repeat. Some people aren't allowed to win anything in some people's eyes... and Cameron's one of those people as far as the supposedly more compassionate, tolerant and more left leaning DS forum members goes.
![]() He wasn't the best PM we've ever had - he wasn't the worst, but I'm inclined to look at whether the alternatives at the time would have been any better rather than compare historic records. Give me Cameron over a Clegg, Gordon Brown and subsequently Ed Miliband any day. I'd take him now over a Corbyn or a Farron - which tells you what I think of the state of the UK's opposition parties at the moment. |
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He said before the referendum that he would not resign. A man should stand by his word.
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I'm a bit torn on this as it could be argued either way.
Do you see him as a man of principle who made a principled decision? Or do you see him as a coward who ran away from his responsibilities? I'd personally like to have seen him stop, but I don't blame him one iota for going. That job has got to be ultra stressful. |
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He said before the referendum that he would not resign. A man should stand by his word.
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He should not have lied; he should have stuck by his word.
But like a typical Tory he was revealed to be a dishonourable charlatan, laughing at the dim oiks until they upended him, completely. |
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He should not have lied; he should have stuck by his word.
But like a typical Tory he was revealed to be a dishonourable charlatan, laughing at the dim oiks until they upended him, completely. Once you lose like that, you just can't go on. |
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Resigning is about the only honourable thing left to do, because he would have been a PM severely crippled by his stance and subsequent defeat. That isn't good for the country or government, who has to then negotiate the terms of our exit with the EU. He would have simply been torn apart at every opportunity because he backed the wrong horse. We have just seen similar in Italy.
Once you lose like that, you just can't go on. |
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Wasn't as bad as most Tories but he badly misjudged the vote and the duplicity of some of his colleagues. Not the Brexiters who had declared their views well in advance, but those close to him who saw this not as a EU vote but as a chance to further their own ambitions.
He had no option to resign and leave it to the winning side but ultimately, it's his mess. |
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He should not have said he would see it through if he had not intention of doing so; or, having said it, he should have seen it through. If he had any principles or honour, he would have done so.
Instead he ran off, his face streaked with tears and snot streaming from his toffee nose, to find succour from Mumsie. Typical Tory wuss. You wonder why people despise politicians. Look no further than David Cameron's gutless running out on the country and his electorate. Just because they didn't do what he said, the revolting peasants. |
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He should not have said he would see it through if he had not intention of doing so; or, having said it, he should have seen it through. If he had any principles or honour, he would have done so.
Instead he ran off, his face streaked with tears and snot streaming from his toffee nose, to find succour from Mumsie. Typical Tory wuss. You wonder why people despise politicians. Look no further than David Cameron's gutless running out on the country and his electorate. Just because they didn't do what he said, the revolting peasants. It's all very well being partisan and name calling, I expect nothing less, but you should look at the bigger picture my friend. He had to go. |
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If he could not legitimately lead the country through Brexit then he should not have said he would stay on regardless.
It isn't difficult: say what you mean, do what you say. |
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If he could not legitimately lead the country through Brexit then he should not have said he would stay on regardless.
It isn't difficult: say what you mean, do what you say. Once he lost it became politically (and arguably constitutionally) impossible for him to remain Prime Minister. |
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Berrrrrk buck buck.
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....so therefore he did the right thing.
What a pity May still plugs the 'doing the right thing' line. |
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By holding the ref he united the Tories and guaranteed them a majority in Parliament, more than anyone since Thatcher managed.
He was fully aware of how many holes there are in the referendum act and had not intention of dealing the fall out that we are experiencing now so he said see ya later and good luck. Hardly anything to blame him for. In addition he ensured that the very people campaigning for madness and chaos are now in charge of delivering the undeliverable and is enjoying the show while eating popcorn. |
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In addition he ensured that the very people campaigning for madness and chaos are now in charge of delivering the undeliverable and is enjoying the show while eating popcorn.
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More like he's thinking to himself what a complete knob he's been.
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More like he's thinking to himself what a complete knob he's been.
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For creating the chaos from a promise to pacify backbenchers that he never thought he'd have to keep.
I'm glad he decided to spin the wheel though. It got us our referendum
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I'm a bit torn on this as it could be argued either way.
Do you see him as a man of principle who made a principled decision? Or do you see him as a coward who ran away from his responsibilities? |
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He was wrong to stand for the leadership in the first place. A total light-weight.
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He was wrong to stand for the leadership in the first place. A total light-weight.
We wouldn't have just got the awful snoopers charter either.
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