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Or in other words trevgo in desperate bid to overturn the first referendum and remain in the EU by splitting the leave vote.
There won't be another referendum but, if there were, it would be - a) do we leave on "this deal" or b) do we leave on "no deal" |
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One half of a binary concept - LEAVE or stay. That means leaving all EU mechanisms.
"Lets call the whole thing off" OP - Dictators saddled with the burdens of Democrats.
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One half of a binary concept - LEAVE or stay. That means leaving all EU mechanisms.
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It means ceasing to be a member of the EU.
Ok but we were told that leaving the single market was a certainty if we voted to give up membership, we still voted to leave |
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There absolutely shouldn't be a second referendum.
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Oh for the love of cream cake, how many more times?
Your Parliament is full of idiots, imbeciles, nincompoops, morons, dingbats, flibbertigibbets, clangheads, divots, dipshits, droolers, dribblers, knuckle-scrapers, bottom-feeders, mouth-breathers, fatheads, cretins, dolts, dullards, gobshites, simpletons, pinheads, pissants, ****wits and gurning, cross-eyed, ineffectual dreck of the very lowest of orders. The very notion that this lamentable mob of half-baked peons could make a referendum happen before March is about as realistic as Nicolas Maduro terraforming Mars and founding Socialist Outpost Xanadu thereupon before Whitsun. |
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Ah, so it does, i forgot the full ballot question.
Ok but we were told that leaving the single market was a certainty if we voted to give up membership, we still voted to leave |
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Oh for the love of cream cake, how many more times?
Your Parliament is full of idiots, imbeciles, nincompoops, morons, dingbats, flibbertigibbets, clangheads, divots, dipshits, droolers, dribblers, knuckle-scrapers, bottom-feeders, mouth-breathers, fatheads, cretins, dolts, dullards, gobshites, simpletons, pinheads, pissants, ****wits and gurning, cross-eyed, ineffectual dreck of the very lowest of orders. The very notion that this lamentable mob of half-baked peons could make a referendum happen before March is about as realistic as Nicolas Maduro terraforming Mars and founding Socialist Outpost Xanadu thereupon before Whitsun. Option 2: Let's not be so hasty Option 3: We should not vote for destroying the economy. Option 4: You decide. Simpler options containing only the essential "need to knows" Should be manageable in the time-frame and remainers would feel "respected" |
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We were told a lot of things. They weren't all true!
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No. The as you were option is entirely logical .
The last referendum was on accepting the newly renegotiated relationship - logically there should be one on the new relationship. The Leave prospectus was a tissue of lies...... The last referendum was "Remain" or "Leave". Nothing on the ballot paper about any negotiated deal. We voted leave. So we must (and WILL) leave the EU. Also, look at the lies spun by "Remain"... the reason they lost was because what they claimed was so ludicrous most people didn't believe it! I think a reality check is in order here and you start accepting that we are leaving the EU and no amount of jibber on here will change that. |
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OK, let's cut out the pro-EU rhetoric...
The last referendum was "Remain" or "Leave". Nothing on the ballot paper about any negotiated deal. We voted leave. So we must (and WILL) leave the EU. Also, look at the lies spun by "Remain"... the reason they lost was because what they claimed was so ludicrous most people didn't believe it! I think a reality check is in order here and you start accepting that we are leaving the EU and no amount of jibber on here will change that. ![]() We will leave, not of us agree with that, but that was the result - we are leaving with all the warts and all that will cause. That includes the EEA (although we could re-join that afterwards). |
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What's starting to get on my nerves is the tiny minority of my 48% who are trying to speak for the rest of us; we want this, we want that, the 48% should be heard on this, should be heard on that. They don't speak for me, they didn't ask my opinion they just boldly proclaim what my 48% want, just like they proclaimed what the 52% wanted and why they wanted it.
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Oh for the love of cream cake, how many more times?
Your Parliament is full of idiots, imbeciles, nincompoops, morons, dingbats, flibbertigibbets, clangheads, divots, dipshits, droolers, dribblers, knuckle-scrapers, bottom-feeders, mouth-breathers, fatheads, cretins, dolts, dullards, gobshites, simpletons, pinheads, pissants, ****wits and gurning, cross-eyed, ineffectual dreck of the very lowest of orders. The very notion that this lamentable mob of half-baked peons could make a referendum happen before March is about as realistic as Nicolas Maduro terraforming Mars and founding Socialist Outpost Xanadu thereupon before Whitsun. |
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OK, let's cut out the pro-EU rhetoric...
The last referendum was "Remain" or "Leave". Nothing on the ballot paper about any negotiated deal. We voted leave. So we must (and WILL) leave the EU. Also, look at the lies spun by "Remain"... the reason they lost was because what they claimed was so ludicrous most people didn't believe it! I think a reality check is in order here and you start accepting that we are leaving the EU and no amount of jibber on here will change that. Out means out and suck up the consequences. |
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No more referendums they are expensive business.
Instead I propose buying every angry remainer a box of tissues from the £350 million a week we save from leaving the EU. Then they can dry their bitter tears. |
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No more referendums they are expensive business.
Instead I propose buying every angry remainer a box of tissues from the £350 million a week we save from leaving the EU. Then they can dry their bitter tears. |
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Neither side were paragons of truth. There was a reason why voters were given a simple question (In or Out) - now there are those who think we should have a second referendum because nobody understood the question they were being asked! And do you really think a more complex question is going to work?
![]() We will leave, not of us agree with that, but that was the result - we are leaving with all the warts and all that will cause. That includes the EEA (although we could re-join that afterwards). Now we have badly drafted legislation being argued before the Supreme Court and assorted soothsayers telling us what everyone meant. I still say we will be revoting on this in 2020 - either as the central issue of the GE or another referendum on the deal made. By then, the Brexiters will have to wake up to the car crash they have created. |
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OK, let's cut out the pro-EU rhetoric...
The last referendum was "Remain" or "Leave". Nothing on the ballot paper about any negotiated deal. We voted leave. So we must (and WILL) leave the EU. Also, look at the lies spun by "Remain"... the reason they lost was because what they claimed was so ludicrous most people didn't believe it! I think a reality check is in order here and you start accepting that we are leaving the EU and no amount of jibber on here will change that. ![]() I especially like the bit in bold
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If Remainers are bad losers, Brexiters are the worst winners in history.
Not an milligram of reason amongst the lot of them. They're plainly as unpleasant as they appear. |
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Why there should be a second referendum before March
Prime minister Theresa May will not be holding another referendum of any kind on this matter. She will not want to repeat the previous prime minister's mistake. Defeat. |
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If Remainers are bad losers, Brexiters are the worst winners in history.
Not an milligram of reason amongst the lot of them. They're plainly as unpleasant as they appear. Shockingly bad form really. |
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Still can't resist with the name calling can you.
Shockingly bad form really. |
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No more referendums they are expensive business.
Instead I propose buying every angry remainer a box of tissues from the £350 million a week we save from leaving the EU.
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If Remainers are bad losers, Brexiters are the worst winners in history.
Not an milligram of reason amongst the lot of them. They're plainly as unpleasant as they appear. With that sweeping statement you have exposed yourself as a huge troll. |
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If Remainers are bad losers, Brexiters are the worst winners in history.
Not an milligram of reason amongst the lot of them. They're plainly as unpleasant as they appear. |
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