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Brexiteers : more aggressive than Remainers ?
I have been surprised at how strongly so many remain supporters (including myself) feel about the Referendum and the probability of leaving the EU, my only observation is it`s a pity we didn`t switch that on during the campaign...... However, strong feelings don`t necessarily equate to aggressive nasty ones. When one reads about the vitriol and abuse that Gina Miller* is suffering just by attempting to clarify the British constitution, and the screaming headlines in the Express / Mail / Sun papers**, I can`t help thinking that if the situation had been reversed it would have been altogether more civilised. If Remain had won narrowly and the Leave campaign had tried to have the Referendum rerun (remember Farage said on the evening of the poll that he`d do that if they lost ! ) I really can`t see there would have been such gross unpleasantness (Farage was actually threatening rioting in the streets if we didn`t leave the EU ! ).
Do others agree ? And what does that say about many of those who voted Leave ? * and any other person questioning anything about Brexit. ** significantly I haven`t called them newspapers, they don`t deserve the title. Why does anyone, apart from right wing Tories, read the Daily Mail or Express ? |
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I have been surprised at how strongly so many remain supporters (including myself) feel about the Referendum and the probability of leaving the EU, my only observation is it`s a pity we didn`t switch that on during the campaign...... However, strong feelings don`t necessarily equate to aggressive nasty ones. When one reads about the vitriol and abuse that Gina Miller* is suffering just by attempting to clarify the British constitution, and the screaming headlines in the Express / Mail / Sun papers**, I can`t help thinking that if the situation had been reversed it would have been altogether more civilised. If Remain had won narrowly and the Leave campaign had tried to have the Referendum rerun (remember Farage said on the evening of the poll that he`d do that if they lost ! ) I really can`t see there would have been such gross unpleasantness (Farage was actually threatening rioting in the streets if we didn`t leave the EU ! ).
Do others agree ? And what does that say about many of those who voted Leave ? * and any other person questioning anything about Brexit. ** significantly I haven`t called them newspapers, they don`t deserve the title. Why does anyone, apart from right wing Tories, read the Daily Mail or Express ? |
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Trying to tar everyone with the same brush .. nice one
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I really do think if we'd have remained, the exiters would have forgotten about it and it would have never been ever, ever, ever mentioned... ever again.
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I wouldn't like to say which side is more aggressive or angry and I don't really care. If people are angry there are reasons for it and criticising / mocking / shaming angry people doesn't get us anywhere.
Even if I don't consider the reasons particularly rational reasons to be angry, the anger isn't helping me or any of us so I want to consider what can be done within reason to reduce it. |
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As a Brexiter I resent my views being criticised by the implied association with the behaviour of a few nutters.
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I wouldn't like to say which side is more aggressive or angry and I don't really care. If people are angry there are reasons for it and criticising / mocking / shaming angry people doesn't get us anywhere.
Even if I don't consider the reasons particularly rational reasons to be angry, the anger isn't helping me or any of us so I want to consider what can be done within reason to reduce the anger. Some people would finally have to accept that it is happening. |
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Triggering A50.
Some people would finally have to accept that it is happening. Ultimately we have to rely on politicians, the media and other influential people to resist the temptation to stir things up but, as evidenced by this whole Brexit episode, their egos often get the better of them. Unfortunately many of the rest of us don't care or don't see how our rulers benefit from our in-fighting and divisions. |
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This is nearly as poor a comparison as saying everyone who drives a German car is a bad driver.
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I have no problem with people having another political opinion but I do think calling all of us who voted out are racists or xenophobic haven't made me feel very generous toward those who voted in and continue to try and stop us leaving.
I think the vitriol first few days against those of us openly voted out may just be coming back to bite people now. It's horrible and needs stopping, but I can see why it has happened. |
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As well as the Brexiters being more aggressive, I've found all the Bremainers to be unintelligent dullards, unable to see a distinction between individuals and the entire group of people who voted a particularly way.
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Who knew Justin would be on the money so quickly lol
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I really do think if we'd have remained, the exiters would have forgotten about it and it would have never been ever, ever, ever mentioned... ever again.
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Whatever the result had been, I don't think it would have gone quietly.
Farage said beforehand that a 51/48 would represent "unfinished business" and that he would have kept campaigning. But apparently that's only good enough for him because he got that exact result in his favour so everyone else should shut up and accept it, even though he made it clear he wouldn't accept it if it went against him. So if it's good enough for him to do that and carry on contesting the result then it should be just as applicable to the remain side. |
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Trying to tar everyone with the same brush .. nice one
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I have no problem with people having another political opinion but I do think calling all of us who voted out are racists or xenophobic haven't made me feel very generous toward those who voted in and continue to try and stop us leaving.
I think the vitriol first few days against those of us openly voted out may just be coming back to bite people now. It's horrible and needs stopping, but I can see why it has happened. |
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Whatever the result had been, I don't think it would have gone quietly.
Farage said beforehand that a 51/48 would represent "unfinished business" and that he would have kept campaigning. But apparently that's only good enough for him because he got that exact result in his favour so everyone else should shut up and accept it, even though he made it clear he wouldn't accept it if it went against him. So if it's good enough for him to do that and carry on contesting the result then it should be just as applicable to the remain side. |
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It's quite interesting to see the boot on the other foot isn't it! For years and years we've seen eurosceptics moaning on and on and on about the EU, and apart from a few europhiles fighting back, the EU bashers were basically talking amongst themselves. Now the Bremoaners know what that's like.
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I wouldn't like to say which side is more aggressive or angry and I don't really care. If people are angry there are reasons for it and criticising / mocking / shaming angry people doesn't get us anywhere.
Even if I don't consider the reasons particularly rational reasons to be angry, the anger isn't helping me or any of us so I want to consider what can be done within reason to reduce it. Cameron has indeed got much to answer for, putting party above country, though to be frank I don`t think he ever expected to get an overall majority in 2015. He never thought he`d have to enact half of the Tory manifesto. Bad misjudgement..... * You Guv poll April 2015, only 15% of people put Europe in the top three of their concerns. |
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But if that were to happen before due process has occurred, it could make things worse.
Ultimately we have to rely on politicians, the media and other influential people to resist the temptation to stir things up but, as evidenced by this whole Brexit episode, their egos often get the better of them. Unfortunately many of the rest of us don't care or don't see how our rulers benefit from our in-fighting and divisions. |
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This is nearly as poor a comparison as saying everyone who drives a German car is a bad driver.
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Of course your not....you just sided with them, that is all.
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I haven't met any aggressive brexiters, the most I can get out of those that I know that voted out is 'out means out' and 'brexit means brexit'. More gormless than aggressive!
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It's quite interesting to see the boot on the other foot isn't it! For years and years we've seen eurosceptics moaning on and on and on about the EU, and apart from a few europhiles fighting back, the EU bashers were basically talking amongst themselves. Now the Bremoaners know what that's like.
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I haven't met any aggressive brexiters, the most I can get out of those that I know that voted out is 'out means out' and 'brexit means brexit'. More gormless than aggressive!
So really it should come as no surprise to you that the people who voted out wish to leave the EU. |
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