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And what does that say about many of those who voted Leave ?
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The referendum was a simple question defined by the slogan in/out.
So really it should come as no surprise to you that the people who voted out wish to leave the EU. |
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The referendum was a simple question defined by the slogan in/out.
So really it should come as no surprise to you that the people who voted out wish to leave the EU. Even a simple divorce is complicated, you can't just say yeah I don't want to be married to you anymore and that's it, there's shit to sort out and what the husband wants out of it may be entirely different to what the wife wants, divorces can take years and cost thousands if one side decides they're getting a bad deal. I guess Britain is about to be the spouse that gets the bum deal! |
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As a Brexiter I resent my views being criticised by the implied association with the behaviour of a few nutters.
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Let me get this straight, not only are 'we' (the people who want to leave the EU) labelled as ignorant, racist, thick, common, lower class etc. but now we are aggressive too!
The most vitriol and aggression I've witnessed throughout this entire process so far has come from people who voted to remain! I've been completely flummoxed by it. |
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Sometimes a divorce favours one side, sometimes it favours the other and somethimes its an even split
But generally by the time you get to the point of asking for a divorce, the divorce is needed as the relationship has become dysfunctional |
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Let me get this straight, not only are 'we' (the people who want to leave the EU) labelled as ignorant, racist, thick, common, lower class etc. but now we are aggressive too!
The most vitriol and aggression I've witnessed throughout this entire process so far has come from people who voted to remain! I've been completely flummoxed by it.
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You forgot "Old people who should just die already ffs"
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I've had to block the facebook posts of two remainers because they have been a constant stream of angry insulting posts since the result. I thought their anger would have died down by now but I overheard one of them ranting at a tradesman delivering goods to them the other day. Not good for their business I would have thought.
On top of the stream of accusations of racism/xenophobia/etc on here and elsewhere the odd "out means out" comments are pretty small beer. |
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However, strong feelings don`t necessarily equate to aggressive nasty ones.
There have been idiots on both sides of the vote but all the name calling, victimising and witch hunts that have ensured because someone didn't think the same as someone else has been utterly pathetic. |
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You forgot "Old people who should just die already ffs"
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I haven't met any aggressive brexiters, the most I can get out of those that I know that voted out is 'out means out' and 'brexit means brexit'. More gormless than aggressive!
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Let me get this straight, not only are 'we' (the people who want to leave the EU) labelled as ignorant, racist, thick, common, lower class etc. but now we are aggressive too!
The most vitriol and aggression I've witnessed throughout this entire process so far has come from people who voted to remain! I've been completely flummoxed by it. Speaking for myself, I could have accepted a large majority result from a dishonest campaign, or a small majority result from an honest campaign, but not a small majority result from a dishonest campaign. Then there`s the Brexit lot saying the public voted for a complete ("hard") Brexit, which can`t possibly be true. 48% voted against that, and, I`m prepared to bet, more than 4% of those who voted Leave don`t even know hat the single market is. |
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Brexiters labelled as knuckle dragging xenophobic morons does make me slightly annoyed.
However I am content in knowing I voted for what I believe is the best for this country in the long run. I have wanted out of the EU for years and was extremely grateful for the vote. To my personal knowledege it is some of the remainers who have behaved appallingly. I know two people who have had to block them on facebook due to their vile vitriolic attacks. However this is some remainers not all and most I know who have accepted the democratic outcome and are quite astonished by the behaviour of others. So some Brexiters may be aggresive and some Remainers may be aggressive and you simply cannot generalise or mmake suppositions. As an aside as far as I am concerned voting for Brexit meant voting to come out of the single market - otherwise there is no point. |
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Both sides have their fair share of tw**s, simple as.
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As a Brexiter I resent my views being criticised by the implied association with the behaviour of a few nutters.
What is indisputable is that the country is very badly divided on this issue. There is bad feeling, especially about the lies that the Leave campaign spread in order to win their vote, and the increase in racist activity since. I said at the time of the campaign that not all Leave voters are racists, but it's a pretty safe bet that all racists are leave voters. The outcome of the referendum has encouraged them and is acting as a catalyst for the rise of extremist right wing groups who are becoming increasingly aggressive in the promotion of their agenda. When all this is over and Britain is out of the EU, both leave and remain voters are going to have to live in the same country and elect a government that will represent ALL the people, not just those of whichever group they supported at the Referendum. The country is divided and what worries me is that, amongst all the bickering and arguing about how Brexit will be achieved, nobody seems to be doing anything at all about reuniting it. |
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Is it a few..? It's very difficult to quantify just how many of either group is involved in this or that behaviour.
What is indisputable is that the country is very badly divided on this issue. There is bad feeling, especially about the lies that the Leave campaign spread in order to win their vote, and the increase in racist activity since. I said at the time of the campaign that not all Leave voters are racists, but it's a pretty safe bet that all racists are leave voters. The outcome of the referendum has encouraged them and is acting as a catalyst for the rise of extremist right wing groups who are becoming increasingly aggressive in the promotion of their agenda. When all this is over and Britain is out of the EU, both leave and remain voters are going to have to live in the same country and elect a government that will represent ALL the people, not just those of whichever group they supported at the Referendum. The country is divided and what worries me is that, amongst all the bickering and arguing about how Brexit will be achieved, nobody seems to be doing anything at all about reuniting it. A large number probably didn't even vote, others may want to keep the UK as white as possible and would favour majority white immigration from Europe, over fairer levels of immigration of other racial groups from the rest of the world. |
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Is it a few..? It's very difficult to quantify just how many of either group is involved in this or that behaviour.
What is indisputable is that the country is very badly divided on this issue. There is bad feeling, especially about the lies that the Leave campaign spread in order to win their vote, and the increase in racist activity since. I said at the time of the campaign that not all Leave voters are racists, but it's a pretty safe bet that all racists are leave voters. The outcome of the referendum has encouraged them and is acting as a catalyst for the rise of extremist right wing groups who are becoming increasingly aggressive in the promotion of their agenda. When all this is over and Britain is out of the EU, both leave and remain voters are going to have to live in the same country and elect a government that will represent ALL the people, not just those of whichever group they supported at the Referendum. The country is divided and what worries me is that, amongst all the bickering and arguing about how Brexit will be achieved, nobody seems to be doing anything at all about reuniting it. |
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I think what is angering a lot of people who voted to leave, myself included, is that so many people, be it private citizens, M.P's, Lords Judges, Luvvies etc etc seem to be determined not accept the democratic result and to do everything they can to get their own way. If the vote had gone the other way, my attitude would have been "Oh well silly sods for believing all the brexit fears, we had our chance and now we are stuck with it"
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It`s not acceptable. But if you think about it it`s not hard to understand. Many people, including myself think the referendum campaign was the most dishonest by far in living memory. The remain camp weren`t entirely blameless (that idiotic "emergency budget"), but the Leave camp were in another league. And when they were asked any awkward questions they just said "project fear" (totally meaningless), or even worse, the public have had enough of experts !
Speaking for myself, I could have accepted a large majority result from a dishonest campaign, or a small majority result from an honest campaign, but not a small majority result from a dishonest campaign. Then there`s the Brexit lot saying the public voted for a complete ("hard") Brexit, which can`t possibly be true. 48% voted against that, and, I`m prepared to bet, more than 4% of those who voted Leave don`t even know hat the single market is. |
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Brexiteers : more aggressive than Remainers ?
They're the ones who actually won and yet they are the same ones who are more abusive online and in real life if they feel that their "huge and overwhelming victory" is being challenged so much so that some of them are making online threats to kill and maim. It's not helped by scurrilous rags like the Mail, Sun, Express and Telegraph which are encouraging the baying Brexiteer mob to storm the Supreme Court and lynch every judge. |
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Is it a few..? It's very difficult to quantify just how many of either group is involved in this or that behaviour.
What is indisputable is that the country is very badly divided on this issue. There is bad feeling, especially about the lies that the Leave campaign spread in order to win their vote, and the increase in racist activity since. I said at the time of the campaign that not all Leave voters are racists, but it's a pretty safe bet that all racists are leave voters. The outcome of the referendum has encouraged them and is acting as a catalyst for the rise of extremist right wing groups who are becoming increasingly aggressive in the promotion of their agenda. When all this is over and Britain is out of the EU, both leave and remain voters are going to have to live in the same country and elect a government that will represent ALL the people, not just those of whichever group they supported at the Referendum. The country is divided and what worries me is that, amongst all the bickering and arguing about how Brexit will be achieved, nobody seems to be doing anything at all about reuniting it. But the fact that over half of the electorate voted against the status quo, despite the massive barrage of establishment propaganda day after day leading up to the referendum, reminds us just how Eurosceptic this country is. I suspect the the number voting Brexit would have been much higher had many voters not been frightened into voting remain by the chorus of gloom and doom from the remain camp. |
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As somebody who voted to leave the EU, I think most of the aggression has been on the leave side. The murder of an MP, the attacks on immigrants, and the threats against people who are challenging the decision have all come from people who want the UK to leave the EU.
Both sides were essentially coalitions. The leave side attracted the support of nationalists. Nationalists tend to be more aggressive, as the people of Scotland who want Scotland to be part of the UK had already discovered prior to the 24th of June. |
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Let me get this straight, not only are 'we' (the people who want to leave the EU) labelled as ignorant, racist, thick, common, lower class etc. but now we are aggressive too!
The most vitriol and aggression I've witnessed throughout this entire process so far has come from people who voted to remain! I've been completely flummoxed by it. This has been my experience too, on the day of the result and to a certain extent even now I'm seeing the same vitriol from those who voted 'Remain' On the day I saw a woman who always came across as an accepting person have shouting arguments with one of her former teachers because in her mind "the old people have wrecked my future", " Old, racist people shouldn't be allowed to vote ", " Old people don't know what they were voting for " It went on and on like this and she couldn't comprehend that others my have a different opinion to her, that the "old" teacher in his late 40's had never been given a vote or that nobody under 61 had ever had a vote either. I still see it now with sneering little comments and posts. Usually coupled with offensive language and always with accusations of racist, xenophobia, little Englander and uneducated. But I saw the same people say almost the same things after the last election result. There seems to be a small, but extremely vocal group of people who don't believe that anybody other than the uneducated knuckle dragging racists would vote Conservative. As it became clear the Tories had won they were making comments such as "Nobody voted Conservative, this is a stich up" What they actually meant was "Nobody I know voted Tory or admitted it to me so it can't possibly be right" |
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The most aggressive acts have come from Brexiters, whereas Remainers have a heck of a lot more people carrying out aggression from the lowest degree upwards.
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