I didn't "tell" you, I asked you hence "please". I was far more polite than you and your so whats, stop whining, and demands. Now I'm going to move along as I said I would. Adios.

I found that confusing before the vote.

"I don't want officials that I didn't elect making my decisions for me" yet perfectly happy with the House of Lords.

Dead right, she comes across as a smug self satisfied rich person who thinks the leavers are all beneath her.

We haven't left the EU yet.

As ever, the leave supporters I speak to in real life are nothing like those encountered online, the same goes for remain supporters.

Spending time arguing on sites like this can give one a seriously skewed view of humanity as people seem weirdly desperate to score internet points off each other by any means, fair or foul, rather than discuss the issues like adults. I wouldn't judge the tone of the national debate by a few shouty people on a forum, the newspapers' comments sections or social media.

I suppose when the worst consequence for offending someone is getting banned and having to register a different username (an occupational hazard for several posters here) the motivation to stay civil and consider compromise is slim.

"Originally Posted by Bless You
The most vitriol and aggression I've witnessed throughout this entire process so far has come from people who voted to remain! I've been completely flummoxed by it."


I`ve thought more about this question and answer, and I think there`s even more to it. I think part of it is intense frustration at the how this all came about :

If Ed Miliband hadn`t won the Labour leadership all those yeas ago, and his brother had, it`s pretty certain that the Tories wouldn`t have got an overall majority = no referendum. Let`s remember that Labour leadership vote was on a knife edge.....

If the Lib Dems hadn`t supported tuition fees it`s arguable they`d have lost fewer seats and thus the Tories wouldn`t have got an overall majority = no referendum.

If Corbyn hadn`t won the Labour leadership it`s arguable that the referendum result would have been different. I think everyone agrees his campaigning, he was the leader of the opposition remember, was half hearted at best. Let`s remember that he only made it onto the final list of candidates because some MPs (who didn`t even support him) thought "there should be a debate". I`ll bet they kick themselves every day, probably more than once.....

This ones more debatable, but possible ! If Boris "I want to be Tory leader" Johnson hadn`t been a regular on HIGNFY he may never have even become London Mayor, never mind a leading campaigner for Leave. Portillo is the best example of what good TV coverage does for a politicians popularity, he used to be one of the most unpopular politicians around, now look at him !.

Let`s remember, the result was close. I really feel this was a one off, but, and this is even more frustrating, unlike a General Election there`s probably no chance for a reversal. In fact, even more galling, and ironic, not to say illogical, "Leave" trumpet from every rooftop that another referendum under any circumstances would be undemocratic....

Too many ifs. Shall I start with IF only more people had voted No like me in 1975 we would never have had this referendum. How far back in imaginary scenarios do you want to go?

Lol. If only Goering had won the Battle of Britain, what would we think of 'Europe' now?

If my mum had a dick she'd be my dad...

What you are musing on is the natural course of history that leads to results like we had. No point going over it, it's done.

Leavers more aggressive than stayers?

As far as this forum is concerned I'd have to disagree.

I well remember the attitude, prior to the referendum, towards those of us who indicated that we'd vote leave.

Stupid
Ignorant
Uneducated
Half brained
Bigoted
Racist
Xenophobic
Homophobic
Little Englanders

I do think there was more but I can't remember but that'll do for starters. Aggressive enough for you?

My feeling is completely the opposite. This Forum is a cesspit of vile views sometimes.

But I don't have any facts and figures either

Wow. I'm surprised it took this long for Godwin to be evoked

I`m surprised you don't think there are many very close call "ifs" there, Still everyone`s different, we`ll have to agree to disagree.

I don't know anyone who has said that about people who voted leave. What some might have pointed out, and I didn`t think it`s a matter for debate, I thought it was accepted statistical fact, is that on average those who voted remain were better educated. Are you saying that`s incorrect ?

If that's what she's doing, she's perfectly entitled to do so. In any case it's probably a good thing that our courts ensure that the government triggers A50 in the correct way.

The remainers were just throwing garbage out there, I found more sense in the reasons to leave, they didn't seem like a bunch of kids, making things up, almost desperately.

I don't think it's childish to say:

1. Leaving won't change Rules or Immigration or our lack of Internal Funding
2. Leaving will harm our Economic Position

Not desperately making things up?

lol I concur. Especially about erm, what was it, weekly NHS investment... uhuh....

I don't know about outright aggression, but in passive aggression this post just about wins the prize.

Let me guess ..... you're not mad, just very very disappointed.

What would have become of Europe had Charles Martel not defeated the Muslim army at Tours in 732?

Homo Sapiens whopping the Neanderthals?

Have a wonder over to the politics forum and the OP will find their theory to be invalid. Over there Brexiters are branded as racists, xenophobes, mentally sub-normal, in-bred, uneducated and decrepid old people who really ought to just die and should never have had the vote.

That's pretty much what I read on Facebook everyday. To those kind hearted liberals who believe we should all be the same, anti bullying, anti harassment and generally highly educated people think nothing more of shouting down others who think differently.

You can't (quite rightly) harrass somebody for their views on same sex marriage or abortion. Yet you can protest and "get in their face" if they want to leave the EU. Please don't claim I'm saying the above are equal, they're just contradictory opinions I've seen from an open minded caring liberal.

Wake up you bunch of *****

This situation has been created specifically to point attention at immigrants instead of the government and banks, and to create a sense of divide. Remain or brexit things would be much the same. Periods of wealth and periods of poor. All this has done is take attention away from the governement to stop us collectively bargaining with them to share out the billions and billions and billions a bit more fairly.

Strength in unity.

While that's true what I am hoping is we will now start looking at who we elect in this country, I've found many people have given up because they believe eu is running the show so it doesn't matter who we elect. Once out it will become very evident how weak many of our politicians are and how many are working for themselves rather than us. They will have no where to hide.