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Old 07-12-2016, 14:43
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It doesn't seem fair all the celebs this week have to do one Latin and one ballroom apart from him.

Can't help think they want him in the final so have give him the dances that suit him best as the samba wouldn't suit him. Think they pushing for a Clifton final.
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:51
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everyone can drop a dance - Ore has dropped samba and is doing 1 ballroom and an AT which is neither ballroom or latin

Coupled with that the producers have given him dire music and Claudia and Danny favourable music - hardly call that pushing for a Clifton final
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:52
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It doesn't seem fair all the celebs this week have to do one Latin and one ballroom apart from him.

Can't help think they want him in the final so have give him the dances that suit him best as the samba wouldn't suit him. Think they pushing for a Clifton final.
Of course they aren't ! Those poor Cliftons.they really do get some stupid comments about them.
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Old 07-12-2016, 14:55
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On an interview one of the professionals said it comes under ballroom.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:02
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I'm pretty sure I heard that as AT isn't one of the Ten it can be counted as either latin or ballroom. (I seem to think we’ve seen that wavering categorisation on this show recently??)
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:07
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Oh fgs. How many more conspiracy theories are people going to come up with.😏
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:08
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Dire music won't affect the judges scores, I'll suppose we'll see how the leaderboard is on Saturday to see whether they are favouring him. Going by previous weeks I do find him to be overmarked.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:10
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I'm pretty sure I heard that as AT isn't one of the Ten it can be counted as either latin or ballroom. (I seem to think we’ve seen that wavering categorisation on this show recently??)
Georgia was due to do Argentine Tango + ballroom last year but changed it midweek. Rinder was also due to do Argentine Tango + ballroom if he made it through to this week. In the days when it was always done in the semis it was paired regularly with both latin and ballroom as the "other" dance and I don't remember anyone crying foul.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:15
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Georgia was due to do Argentine Tango + ballroom last year but changed it midweek. Rinder was also due to do Argentine Tango + ballroom if he made it through to this week. In the days when it was always done in the semis it was paired regularly with both latin and ballroom as the "other" dance and I don't remember anyone crying foul.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:19
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They were never expecting Judge rinder to get as far as he did. If that was the case with Georgia and they do class it as ballroom then it was unfair that year as well. It's not just that its ore.
What is the Clifton's dad job at strictly?
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:29
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They were never expecting Judge rinder to get as far as he did. If that was the case with Georgia and they do class it as ballroom then it was unfair that year as well. It's not just that its ore.
What is the Clifton's dad job at strictly?
There are only 10 standard ballroom and latin dances of which AT is not one It comes under 'other'

The other inane question does not deserve an answer
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:29
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Coupled with that the producers have given him dire music and Claudia and Danny favourable music
Yeah, I don't see how the dances he's performing can be called an advantage when one of them is an AT to Kylie bloody Minogue.

Louise also has a rubbish song for her tango so if we're arguing who's being pushed for the final on this basis, it's Danny and Claudia. Neither of which are partnered by a Clifton.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:36
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They were never expecting Judge rinder to get as far as he did. If that was the case with Georgia and they do class it as ballroom then it was unfair that year as well. It's not just that its ore.
What is the Clifton's dad job at strictly?
Why is it unfair? Everybody gets to pick a dance to skip and Argentine Tango can count as ballroom or latin for anybody. Seems like a level playing field to me. The argument they didn't expect Rinder to make it this far so he somehow doesn't count is spurious as well. Gavin Henson, Katie Derham and Lisa Riley all made it this far fairly recently off worse scores than Rinder got. They know it can happen.

Regardless, Ore's highest mark is in latin and he was just 4th out of 5 and in the dance-off on a ballroom (and the one most similar to quickstep). The presumption that his samba would be worse than either of the two he's got lined up for Saturday is just that.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:37
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Music won't affect judges scores. So I wouldn't bother what they are dancing to. It'll be where they are placed on the leaderboard that will matter.

I am curious as to what their dad's job is on strictly as James Jordan always goes about it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:41
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One of the judges said they never expected Judge rinder to get that far. One of the professionals in an interview said it was classed as ballrooom. A lot of people on this forum claim they pushing for ore and Louise to be in the final.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:46
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Music won't affect judges scores. So I wouldn't bother what they are dancing to. It'll be where they are placed on the leaderboard that will matter.
Quite often it is more difficult for a couple to get good choreography, good technique, and good chemistry with inappropriate music. It gets worse if they have a bad them and costume as well. At this stage of the competition, the judges don't need to see much wrong to change a 10 to a 9.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:47
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Coupled with that the producers have given him dire music and Claudia and Danny favourable music - hardly call that pushing for a Clifton final
Agreed - "Can't get you out of my head" is far too fast for an AT.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:51
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Music won't affect judges scores. So I wouldn't bother what they are dancing to. It'll be where they are placed on the leaderboard that will matter.

I am curious as to what their dad's job is on strictly as James Jordan always goes about it.
Does he? Show us.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:08
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Go on his twitter.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:28
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Agreed - "Can't get you out of my head" is far too fast for an AT.
There are some slowed down guitar versions on the dances revealed thread that would work, imo, for a Strictly AT. If they do the Kylie version I will be surprised (and horrified). Of course people were saying that 'I heard it through the grapevine' would be slowed down so who knows.

I don't agree with the OP but to be fair, before the songs were announced everyone I read on the prediction thread was saying Ore would have to do the samba and pick between the AT and QS, so that might be why they feel it's odd. Personally I think he's got so much against him on Saturday, at least let him do the better dance for him, and we get to see a better dance as well.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:36
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Obviously OP is a Claudia supporter, why else would they'd call FIX, they wouldn't even consider it if they were a Danny or Louise supporter

Can this forum give this poor guy a break for just one week

Yes I am an Ore supporter from week 1 and I know this will be his final week & won't reach the final

Why are the majority so anti Ore
He can't do right for doing wrong and are ready, like OP, to jump on him with some kind of conspiracy theory etc.

Lets see what happens this Saturday huh.
This series is almost over & lets celebrate a fantastic series this year has been instead of tearing certain Celebs
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:46
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I don't actually have a favourite you can't call it until you see them on the night.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:48
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I'm not an Ore fan myself, but I wouldn't say he has been favoured at all, if he was, why would he have a Kylie Minogue song for an Argentine Tango? All this favouring talk is rubbish, no-one has had a perfect song every single week or a perfect theme for their dance, no-one has had the prime slot in the dance order every week etc. From what I have read, the pros choose the dance they will miss out at the start of the series, so there is no conspiracy in him not doing the samba this weekend.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:53
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Music won't affect judges scores. So I wouldn't bother what they are dancing to. It'll be where they are placed on the leaderboard that will matter.

I am curious as to what their dad's job is on strictly as James Jordan always goes about it.
I doubt he has a job on Strictly, considering James Jordan will make up any excuse to complain about the Cliftons.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:56
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It doesn't seem fair all the celebs this week have to do one Latin and one ballroom apart from him.

Can't help think they want him in the final so have give him the dances that suit him best as the samba wouldn't suit him. Think they pushing for a Clifton final.
I think the samba would have suited him very well actually. The difficulty as I understand it with the samba is dealing with polyrhythms, moving from the core and the double bounce.. He is naturally rhythmic; which I imagine is how he has gone from no dance to a high level of comptence in a short time. He has proved he can move his body in any direction required from hip movement, to swing and sway, to Spanish lines, to shimmying. We don't know if he would have got the double bounce but I don't see why not, seeing as he has managed all the other body movement actions and seems to be able to handle body isolation.
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