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Old 07-12-2016, 18:22
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Not when it gets to final, it's a public vote, he would never beat the other 3. The judges are getting him through.
I really don't have a favourite if he comes and dances amazing on the night then I'd think he's the best that night. As simple as that really.
That's what ppl said about Natalie Gumede

She wouldn't get to the final and if she did she would come 4th...

Let me tell you what happened

Not only she got to the final she ended up coming 2nd.

So please don't dismiss Ore because he's been in the DO twice & right now he doesn't seem to have the public support. Neither did Natalie, but she danced brilliantly in the final and turned the public around
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:25
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That's what ppl said about Natalie Gumede

She wouldn't get to the final and if she did she would come 4th...

Let me tell you what happened

Not only she got to the final she ended up coming 2nd.

So please don't dismiss Ore because he's been in the DO twice & right now he doesn't seem to have the public support. Neither did Natalie, but she danced brilliantly in the final and turned the public around
He's certainly had my support for the last couple of weeks.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:27
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The short version of this thread:

'Ore isn't my favourite. I fear he will beat my favourite. Here are all the excuses I'm pre-preparing. It's so unfair!'
That's about the size of it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:28
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he doesn't seem very favoured to me, more like the forgotten man of the series, between top class danny and people's choice ed and even judge R.

his american smooth in blackpool is my dance of the series so far, however little else has made a dent in the shiny razzmatazz of the others
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:29
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I would never say that about Natalie as she was good.
But unless ore comes out with a phenomenal dance then that's how I see it. I kind of want to see him do a samba, and would love to be proved wrong.
Don't think he's had dancing experience if that what James said he wouldn't be flat footed in places if he had.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:29
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Well he could do it and prove me wrong. Do you think he could? I honestly don't think he could, he can be flat footed at times. AT is a lot easier. The bounce action has to be right in the samba and is hard to get right, Especially for the guy and can look awkward.
BIB 1 - Yes but we will never know will we?
BIB 2 Nonsense.
BIB 3 Poppycock
BIB 4 True but you have absolutley no reason for supposing he couldn't do it apart from your own prejudice.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:32
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He's only had one good dance that was his jive. Exactly that's my opinion like everyone has and are entitled to have.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:40
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That's what ppl said about Natalie Gumede

She wouldn't get to the final and if she did she would come 4th...

Let me tell you what happened

Not only she got to the final she ended up coming 2nd.

So please don't dismiss Ore because he's been in the DO twice & right now he doesn't seem to have the public support. Neither did Natalie, but she danced brilliantly in the final and turned the public around
Nobody ever said she wouldn't get to the final. People thought she was a sure thing for the final but wouldn't win due to her obviously being a massive ringer.

And there's no evidence at all that she "turned the public around". In the semi-final she lost the public vote to all of the other finalists; in the final she managed to beat Sophie, but still lost to Abbey and almost certainly lost to Susanna.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:41
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BIB 1 - Yes but we will never know will we?
BIB 2 Nonsense.
BIB 3 Poppycock
BIB 4 True but you have absolutely no reason for supposing he couldn't do it apart from your own prejudice.
BIB 5 Spot on
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:41
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He's only had one good dance that was his jive. Exactly that's my opinion like everyone has and are entitled to have.
actually he's had more than 1...

AS is another and several other dances he scored highly WITHOUT BEING OVER SCORED!
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:45
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Nobody ever said she wouldn't get to the final. People thought she was a sure thing for the final but wouldn't win due to her obviously being a massive ringer.

And there's no evidence at all that she "turned the public around". In the semi-final she lost the public vote to all of the other finalists; in the final she managed to beat Sophie, but still lost to Abbey and almost certainly lost to Susanna.
BS...
that year the final positions were leaked & and Abbey was first, Nat came 2nd, Susanna came 3rd. There was a several page thread about this at the time

Also a lot were dismissing Nat for the semi finals and said she would be lucky to reach the final.

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Old 07-12-2016, 18:46
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We both have different opinions, which is good. It'd be boring if everyone thought the same.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:57
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BS...
that year the final positions were leaked & and Abbey was first, Nat came 2nd, Susanna came 3rd. There was a several page thread about this at the time
Those were fake statistics posted by a troll on Wikipedia, as demonstrated by the fact that one week the fake stats would have resulted in a different bottom two to the one that actually happened. Natalie was almost certainly third in the public vote in the final.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:00
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Those were fake statistics posted by a troll on Wikipedia, as demonstrated by the fact that one week the fake stats would have resulted in a different bottom two to the one that actually happened. Natalie was almost certainly third in the public vote in the final.
Still calling BS!

Nat danced way better than Susanna and Susanna had plenty of negative comments during the final on social media.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:11
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Still calling BS!

Nat danced way better than Susanna and Susanna had plenty of negative comments during the final on social media.
"Dancing way better" has NEVER been a factor in the public voting. If it was, then Ricky Whittle, Rachel Stevens and Zoe Ball would have been champion instead of Chris Hollins, Tom Chambers and Darren Gough. The public vote for who they like the most, not who they think is technically best.

Susanna was a Marmite character. But a lot of people like Marmite. She was quite unpopular with a vocal number of people on here and social media, it's true, but this forum isn't representative of the wider public - she obviously had a big fanbase in addition to a big group of people who disliked her. Simple logic tells us that she was probably second in the public vote in the final.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:20
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This thread has to be trolling given the OP has only 83 posts in an 11 year tenure. Ore is being shuffled into DO and voted out this week given his dances and song choices. If he had been given a classic tune for his AT, perhaps you'd have a point.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:42
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Obviously OP is a Claudia supporter, why else would they'd call FIX, they wouldn't even consider it if they were a Danny or Louise supporter

Can this forum give this poor guy a break for just one week

Yes I am an Ore supporter from week 1 and I know this will be his final week & won't reach the final

Why are the majority so anti Ore
He can't do right for doing wrong and are ready, like OP, to jump on him with some kind of conspiracy theory etc.

Lets see what happens this Saturday huh.
This series is almost over & lets celebrate a fantastic series this year has been instead of tearing certain Celebs
Budge up on the Ore supporter bench, I'm joining you. I've seen some daft things said about him, from 'creepy eyebrows' to 'overly emotional'.

For a complete novice he's danced some wonderful routines. His AS was a joy to behold and his delight in dancing is delightful. His relationship with Jo is wonderful. Compare him to Louise, whose body language on ITT strongly suggests that she can't stand a bar of Kevin!
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:25
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This thread has to be trolling given the OP has only 83 posts in an 11 year tenure. Ore is being shuffled into DO and voted out this week given his dances and song choices. If he had been given a classic tune for his AT, perhaps you'd have a point.
This forum is in such decline that even the trolls used to be more interesting in the past years.
It shows that they're running out of ideas if all they have now is Clifton hate/conspiracy theories to bang on about.
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:36
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I bet even in the dance off he's saved, the only person he wouldn't be saved against is Louise. It's funny how people think it's a thing against the cliftons, it's not. When frankie was in it, frankie and Kevin were my favourites.
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:55
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Oh fgs. How many more conspiracy theories are people going to come up with.😏
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:56
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Haha yes I must really hate them. I didn't have to trawl through I've read it when it was posted but if people want proof then go and read it. Also I don't just believe James Jordan but others have also said it.
So you must have read it at least 3 years ago and who else has said it...its very vague. I would also take anything MrJordan says with a pinch of salt.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:06
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Can't remember some of the older pros were saying about it. What does he do on the show? I do believe it as it's not just from James. As apparently that's why the cliftons were brought in. But that's just what's been said believe what you want to believe.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:22
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Can't remember some of the older pros were saying about it. What does he do on the show? I do believe it as it's not just from James. As apparently that's why the cliftons were brought in. But that's just what's been said believe what you want to believe.
I imagine Kevin and Jo were brought in because of their talent just like the other professionals.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:34
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BS...
that year the final positions were leaked & and Abbey was first, Nat came 2nd, Susanna came 3rd. There was a several page thread about this at the time

Also a lot were dismissing Nat for the semi finals and said she would be lucky to reach the final.

This is why I would like BBC to release the voting figures. I loved Natalie and still haven't got over Abbey winning, but my guess would be Natalie came third. I thought Susanna was more popular than Natalie. Was Susanna ever in the DO??. Can't remember. I never saw those voting figures, so can't really comment.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:38
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Yes would love voting figures to be released, it'd be interesting to see.
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