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EE - Is this really the build up to Ronnie and Roxy leaving? (includes spoilers)
I don't watch EE regularly anymore but I am curious about Ronnie and Roxy's exit storyline. However, it seems a big shame that hardly anything is happening atm. Aside from them all arguing about moving away, there is no real story.
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Well to be fair, if they are leaving in the way which has been widely reported there would be no build up anyway. They seem to be going about their lives as normal and planning a wedding/moving etc. Roxy going off the rails because she feels left out etc. That's the storyline.
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You are right but I wish they had a better storyline, considering they'll be gone for good soon enough.
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Yeah, hopefully they will pull something out of the bag that no one is expecting.
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SOC is out of his depth he's making a big mistake killing them off, fair enough givig them a break but killing them is ridiculous.
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I think it's shaping up to be a good exit. It's been done a lot before, but I like exits where characters are preparing to leave Walford for a new life and suddenly something else happens. It gives them time to say their goodbyes and have a final scene with certain people who are under the impression they're just moving away.
Side note: who says they're getting killed off? It hasn't been confirmed yet. I think you all might be in for a big surprise. |
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SOC is out of his depth he's making a big mistake killing them off, fair enough givig them a break but killing them is ridiculous.
Why can't people give him time??? |
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Out of his depth? Come on. He's been in the role for six months, his stuff's only been on screen since September and he's made the decision to get rid of certain characters so obviously time needs to be spent seeing them out of the show. Once that's done, and only then, in my opinion, are we going to see Sean's true vision for the show. He's obviously got stuff in mind that doesn't involve the departing characters. Plus he's a very experienced producer, so I don't know why out of his depth is appropriate.
Why can't people give him time??? I have no problem with R&R's build-up. They're getting plenty of screen time at the moment and we're still over three weeks from New Year. Just because what we're seeing is more subtle than dramatic, it doesn't mean that nothing's happening or the build-up is non-existent. On the other hand if, - if - they're dying then why should there be a build-up at all? Deaths tend to happen out of the blue. Unless we see someone going around plotting to murder them, then deaths of 30/40 year olds tend to be sudden and unexpected. |
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Im sure the Exit will be big
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To be fair, Ronnie has already left because she swapped her baby and got sent down. She fled Walford again having killed Karl. She left in a black cab AGAIN when she realised she was pregnant and wanted to get the baby away from Walford.
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Out of his depth? Come on. He's been in the role for six months, his stuff's only been on screen since September and he's made the decision to get rid of certain characters so obviously time needs to be spent seeing them out of the show. Once that's done, and only then, in my opinion, are we going to see Sean's true vision for the show. He's obviously got stuff in mind that doesn't involve the departing characters. Plus he's a very experienced producer, so I don't know why out of his depth is appropriate.
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Because he's not doing what they think he should be doing, so therefore he's automatically wrong and incompetent.
I have no problem with R&R's build-up. They're getting plenty of screen time at the moment and we're still over three weeks from New Year. Just because what we're seeing is more subtle than dramatic, it doesn't mean that nothing's happening or the build-up is non-existent. On the other hand if, - if - they're dying then why should there be a build-up at all? Deaths tend to happen out of the blue. Unless we see someone going around plotting to murder them, then deaths of 30/40 year olds tend to be sudden and unexpected.
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I have said this many times but i do not think he will be there in a years time, even by Summer is my prediction. Feel free to quote me from this thread when it happens.
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It is bizarre that Ronnie especially could be written out in a number of ways but they are almost forgetting her past. Looks like she won't find out about Fatboy, the whites won't come back for revenge, and nothing will happen with her brother. There could have been some great ramifications from Roxys drug smuggling. But no - let's not use any of that and go for an accident (by the look of it)
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You are telling me that giving two big characters who are about to leave this monotonous storyline with the equally monotonous jack, with the climax in less than a months time being
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I have said this many times but i do not think he will be there in a years time, even by Summer is my prediction. Feel free to quote me from this thread when it happens. ![]() Ronnie and Roxy have been through shit loads together. They know each other better than anyone. I think it's very plausible Ronnie and Jack would move away from Walford, and entirely plausible that Roxy would be upset. It's not a story with lots of frills, or thrills, but it's much better than you say. I have a lot of faith in SOC to give them a proper exit. I really want people to start giving him a chance. He's got to get rid of the people he doesn't think should be there, and then we'll see his vision for the show. |
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The only thing I would say is from Roxy's perspective - it's all very in character. Ronnie gets a lot of the blame when it comes to their relationship and that's probably because a lot of her actions are more noticeable/extreme and more recent. In the early days it was pretty obvious both were perpetuating their dynamic. Ronnie wanted to be in charge, in control, the mother figure in some ways. She also had some good reasons for being like this. Their mother left them, and she had to pick up a lot of the slack for that. Then later of course it was Roxy being completely incapable of making responsible choices(like her drug use) Ronnie would obvious make this worse by always cleaning up after, or even taking preventative measures. When this suited Roxy, she would accept it. When it was stifling, she'd object. Which could lead to her making bad choices again. When both of them felt at their lowest or most vulnerable they'd not always behave in the best way. If Ronnie felt this way, she might do certain things to ensure Roxy staying close to her. When Roxy felt that way, she'd be destructive, even wreck things, and she did reject Ronnie a few times.
If Roxy feels really lost and shut out, going on a bit of chaotic streak is really in character, and if it leads to her death - that is painfully realistic in a way. Ronnie barely feels like a character to me right now, so I don't know what to say about her. |
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Sorry but I think you're wrong. He will stay beyond that, I'm sure.
Ronnie and Roxy have been through shit loads together. They know each other better than anyone. I think it's very plausible Ronnie and Jack would move away from Walford, and entirely plausible that Roxy would be upset. It's not a story with lots of frills, or thrills, but it's much better than you say. I have a lot of faith in SOC to give them a proper exit. I really want people to start giving him a chance. He's got to get rid of the people he doesn't think should be there, and then we'll see his vision for the show. |
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Well to be fair, if they are leaving in the way which has been widely reported there would be no build up anyway. They seem to be going about their lives as normal and planning a wedding/moving etc. Roxy going off the rails because she feels left out etc. That's the storyline.
We don't know how they're going to go either. I imagined when I read they were leaving, that Ronnie's past was going to catch up with her, you know the Carl stuff that she got away with. I'm sort of glad though they left all of that in the past.....or have they, again we don't know how they're leaving. Roxy going off the rails only reminds me of how spent the character of Roxy is and that Sean O'Connor was right to axe them both. |
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THey could do a number of dramas with R&R but they seem to want to give them a shock ending (drowning) together which I am not sure how plausible that is.
Roxy dying and Ronnie blaming herself and leaving with Matthew would be better or even killing herself over it would be a better exit to her character as Roxy is the one constant in her life. |
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Sally Phillips is not joining EastEnders.
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THey could do a number of dramas with R&R but they seem to want to give them a shock ending (drowning) together which I am not sure how plausible that is.
Roxy dying and Ronnie blaming herself and leaving with Matthew would be better or even killing herself over it would be a better exit to her character as Roxy is the one constant in her life. I actually preferred Ronnie under DTC. Oh my god i miss his EastEnders, i never thought i would ever say that in a million years at the time. you dont know what youve got till its gone! |
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Is Phil going to end up with one of their livers?
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SOC is out of his depth he's making a big mistake killing them off, fair enough givig them a break but killing them is ridiculous.
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Out of his depth? Come on. He's been in the role for six months, his stuff's only been on screen since September and he's made the decision to get rid of certain characters so obviously time needs to be spent seeing them out of the show. Once that's done, and only then, in my opinion, are we going to see Sean's true vision for the show. He's obviously got stuff in mind that doesn't involve the departing characters. Plus he's a very experienced producer, so I don't know why out of his depth is appropriate.
Why can't people give him time??? |
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Phil has to get his liver from somewhere (first one goes wrong, but they saved the sisters in a pickle jar and that one is a success,)
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Indeed, I think the aim of the story is to shock, both us the viewers, Mitchells and other residents of the Square when they bow out.
We don't know how they're going to go either. I imagined when I read they were leaving, that Ronnie's past was going to catch up with her, you know the Carl stuff that she got away with. I'm sort of glad though they left all of that in the past.....or have they, again we don't know how they're leaving. Roxy going off the rails only reminds me of how spent the character of Roxy is and that Sean O'Connor was right to axe them both. |
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It also shows lack of creativity in not addressing the fatboy stuff. Roxy had a soft spot for him as did Dot, JAcks step mum and Matthew's grandma. Lauren was also close to him; Jack's niece. Claudette interfering would have caused mass drama for Patrick/ Vincent/ Donna (Roxy's best friend). Ronnie would have been devastated that her actions caused an "innocent" this time to die and not a bad apple maybe deserving of their fate. Why would an EP not use this? Claudette in her leaving could have divulged the info!
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