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Old 07-12-2016, 18:21
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Just because we ask for a soft Brexit, doesn't mean the EU will offer it. You can't blame the government because they did what you wanted. So if that is the case what will you do?
Given that soft brexit really only means a big loss of British influence over the workings of the EU, it would be truly astonishing if they didn't agree to it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:22
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I was one of them and no I haven't.

My problem..... too flaming lazy to learn a language.
Plenty of international companies in Europe, especially in Switzerland and Scandinavia, have English as the official workplace language. Some of the local lingo is useful socially but you soon pick that up and you can survive without it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:26
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When the government loses its supreme court case, and it will lose, hard brexit will be mathematically impossible. MP's will get the final say and it's already clear there are more than enough Tories willing to side with Labour and Lib Dems to prevent economic disaster and the breakup of the UK.
See below we are leaving the EU - we don't dictate terms we negotiate.

It doesn't matter if they lose the SC case Parliament will still say aye to A50. It doesnt matter really what Parliament wants its what the EU is willing to negotiate on!


Just because we ask for a soft Brexit, doesn't mlean the EU will offer it. You can't blame the government because they did what you wanted. So if that is the case what will you do?
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:27
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Given that soft brexit really only means a big loss of British influence over the workings of the EU, it would be truly astonishing if they didn't agree to it.
But that is not what they are saying. The EU want to push us into a hard Brexit.

Astonishing to you as that may be. What would you do?
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:32
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OP - which posters said they would move abroad?
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:04
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I have three colleagues who are close to the end of their 3 months notice period now, who will be moving soon to more secure engineering jobs on the continent.
They mostly made their decisions when the PM said she wouldn't guarantee EU citizens could remain here after Brexit, so they see it as beating the rush.
Our issue is in finding replacements, which is even harder than normal. Recruiting within the UK is near impossible (because we don't really encourage engineering in the UK education system), the EU is difficult to recruit from right now for obvious reasons, and so it is down to places like India/China, where there is a good supply. Sadly, the Home Office drag their feet on tier2 visas, which makes it painful to do this efficiently.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:33
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Our issue is in finding replacements, which is even harder than normal. Recruiting within the UK is near impossible (because we don't really encourage engineering in the UK education system), the EU is difficult to recruit from right now for obvious reasons, and so it is down to places like India/China, where there is a good supply. Sadly, the Home Office drag their feet on tier2 visas, which makes it painful to do this efficiently.
I see similar issues in the science sector. People with PhDs know that they can get a job in any country they choose so why should they hang around in the UK when the future is looking so uncertain? I know several researchers who are moving to the US in the next few months (though we'll have to see what Trump does to these new "immigrants")
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:55
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Given that soft brexit really only means a big loss of British influence over the workings of the EU, it would be truly astonishing if they didn't agree to it.
Brexit was astonishing itself, so who knows what will happen?

Where do you think you'd move to in the case of hard Brexit?

Wouldn't you at least try and live in a post-brexit Britain, even for a couple of years, just to see how it goes?
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:51
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When the government loses its supreme court case, and it will lose, hard brexit will be mathematically impossible. MP's will get the final say and it's already clear there are more than enough Tories willing to side with Labour and Lib Dems to prevent economic disaster and the breakup of the UK.
Don't bet on it and don't be surprised if a general election came about and all those Tory europhiles were deselected on the basis it would be better than giving UKIP a free run. Remember that today, a Parliamentary vote (massive majority), has said that Article 50 will be triggered by 31st March. Best buy some suitcases Aurichie, we'll help you pack.
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:10
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Brexit was astonishing itself, so who knows what will happen?
How can it be "astonishing" when nothing has happened yet?
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:28
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Actually the influx is rising before we leave, I wonder why
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Old 07-12-2016, 21:29
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How can it be "astonishing" when nothing has happened yet?
Something has happened. We voted to leave the EU. We are leaving the EU!

I was astonished, and overjoyed, when I read the headlines on the following morning.

I still am.
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Old 07-12-2016, 22:39
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I've stayed away and haven't come back, does that count?
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Old 07-12-2016, 22:48
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I am looking forward to the apparent 700,000 applicants from Britain for Irish passports reading the headline 'EU Army decides to implement conscription'.

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Old 08-12-2016, 06:18
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How can it be "astonishing" when nothing has happened yet?
The result was astonishing as all the polls predicted remain.

I was surprised we voted to leave, even if you weren't.
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:32
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I am looking forward to the apparent 700,000 applicants from Britain for Irish passports reading the headline 'EU Army decides to implement conscription'.

Oh like National Service?

That will make men and women of them.

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Old 08-12-2016, 07:16
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Conscription in Ireland?
A load of cobblers
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:51
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Conscription in Ireland?
A load of cobblers
No not in Ireland, in EU countries for the new EU army

Oh yes forgot Ireland is in the EU.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37317765

What they want to do is become a second NATO or even a UN force.

Farcical to be honest and totally unnecessary.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:05
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I see similar issues in the science sector. People with PhDs know that they can get a job in any country they choose so why should they hang around in the UK when the future is looking so uncertain? I know several researchers who are moving to the US in the next few months (though we'll have to see what Trump does to these new "immigrants")
My ex partners company are moving their software development department to Portugal early next year. It seems there is some concern that companies will not be able to attract high skilled workers they need.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:31
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My ex partners company are moving their software development department to Portugal early next year. It seems there is some concern that companies will not be able to attract high skilled workers they need.
I know of a lot of software, backoffice and IT jobs which are moving to Poland, Romania and Hungary as the costs are similar (and often cheaper) to offshoring to India but the logistics are simpler, there isn't as big time difference and they are all in the single market. The governments there are keen to encourage it as it helps keep young people and skilled jobs in their countries.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:48
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Why people feel the need to say they are going to leave, instead of just doing it I am not sure...

...If people want to move to Europe however i would warn them they need to look closely how things are in a specific country they want to go to especially with the NHS, A British couple (on LBC last week) who have lived in France for 12 years, still have to pay 30percent of their total hospital bills. People just need to be aware the grass isn't always greener.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:52
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I've stayed away and haven't come back, does that count?
Only if you promise never to come back.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:54
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This is a silly thread because we haven't even left the EU yet, and may never actually leave. Even MP's in the debate today are framing their points 'if we leave...' nothing is certain yet.
THE MAIN MAN HIMSELF!!!, please tell us of your experience of moving , how was it and where did you go, ?
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:57
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Really worthwhile if you like voting again and again until your EU masters are happy, whining remainers should love it!
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:59
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Why people feel the need to say they are going to leave, instead of just doing it I am not sure...

...If people want to move to Europe however i would warn them they need to look closely how things are in a specific country they want to go to especially with the NHS, A British couple (on LBC last week) who have lived in France for 12 years, still have to pay 30percent of their total hospital bills. People just need to be aware the grass isn't always greener.
The option is to take out an insurance policy but they don't come cheap if you're old. When I left France Mrs. Allaorta and me were paying around £3000 a year, combined. The following year, because I would have reached 75, that would have risen to almost £5000. That was for a top of the range policy and there are cheaper versions but be careful, insurance sales people in France are no different to what they are in Britain.
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