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MPs have voted in favour of the Government's timetable to trigger Article 50 by March |
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MPs have voted in favour of the Government's timetable to trigger Article 50 by March
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Was never really in doubt. Why the government bothered to appeal the court decision is beyond me.
Anyway have certain posters booked their flights/ferries out of the country yet? |
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So let's get on with it then.
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A 327 majority in favour.
As this shows the Commoms will back triggering A50. Only the Lords can block it and they had better not dare as it would be an outrage given the clear will of the Commoms and the referendum result, |
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A 327 majority in favour.
As this shows the Commoms will back triggering A50. Only the Lords can block it and they had better not dare as it would be an outrage given the clear will of the Commoms and the referendum result, |
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Supposing May announced she was going for a soft Brexit? That would throw a spanner in the works.
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Supposing May announced she was going for a soft Brexit? That would throw a spanner in the works.
It is about Leaving the EU which we will and getting negotiations underway and getting it sorted. |
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I'm fed up with all this hard/soft Brexit jargon. Why don't we just aim to get the "best" Brexit for Britain?
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She won't the term Soft Brexit is meaningless just like Hard Brexit and Lite Brexit is.
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It has been partly caused by there being virtually zero clarification on what people were voting for last June. People voted for Leave without having a clue whether this meant the UK would end up inside or outside the Single Market / EEA etc.
Remain in the EU Or Leave the EU Result was to Leave and Leave we will. |
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It has been partly caused by there being virtually zero clarification on what people were voting for last June. People voted for Leave without having a clue whether this meant the UK would end up inside or outside the Single Market / EEA etc.
It was made perfectly, utterly clear, that a vote to leave the EU was also a vote to leave the single market. Only Remain voters deny this. But, the evidence is there for all to see. |
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She wouldn't use the phrase 'soft Brexit' obviously but she could announce that she intended staying in the Single Market and would accept freedom of movement with the EU, which is what I meant by spanner in the works.
Theresa May knows this - no FOM at any cost, no FOM then no single market, suits me. David Cameron said if we voted to Leave the EU then we leave the single market and I believed him, do you think he lied then? |
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I'm fed up with all this hard/soft Brexit jargon. Why don't we just aim to get the "best" Brexit for Britain?
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It has been partly caused by there being virtually zero clarification on what people were voting for last June. People voted for Leave without having a clue whether this meant the UK would end up inside or outside the Single Market / EEA etc.
It mattered not at all for those who voted, so the vote is valid. |
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That isn't what should happen and that isn't what most Leave voters want.
Theresa May knows this - no FOM at any cost, no FOM then no single market, suits me. |
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People know exactly what they voted for it was either to:
Remain in the EU Or Leave the EU Result was to Leave and Leave we will.
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because there's no such thing as 'the best Brexit' for Britain........all 65 million people don't have the same interests
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We will end up with a re-labelled (let's try and fool the minions by calling it something else) version of freedom of movement. They will call it "Visa Free Labour Entitlement" or something. I'm not naive to think that we will break entirely free from the EU.
It isn't up to us. |
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But that's the point. Best for "Britain" doesn't necessarily have to mean best for the people, but what is best in the long term for Britain-the entity.
Without the people Britain is just a lump of rock |
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Fantastic news, I could gloat and say labour were played like a fiddle but I shall instead be magnanimous and congratulate labour on standing up for democracy and not playing the silly games.
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But the EU negotiators aren't going to let us pick and mix!
It isn't up to us. |
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Was never really in doubt. Why the government bothered to appeal the court decision is beyond me.
Anyway have certain posters booked their flights/ferries out of the country yet? |
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There isn't really such a thing as 'Britain - The Entity' apart from the 65 million people with all their differing interests
Without the people Britain is just a lump of rock
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The EU won't give a flying fig what the UK re-name Freedom of Movement" as long as the UK accepts freedom of Movement.
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A 327 majority in favour.
As this shows the Commoms will back triggering A50. Only the Lords can block it and they had better not dare as it would be an outrage given the clear will of the Commoms and the referendum result, That said, and as we have seen today, both major parties support the Brexit vote in principle so that situation will not arise anyway. This "Let's lynch whoever might possibly get in the way of Brexit" mob rule attitude is both very disturbing and poisonous in character it's not that far removed from the Salem witch hunt episode. This is an instructive tale: The Crucible |
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