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Thank God they didn't make him PM.
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Well, who needs Cabinet Collective Responsibility anyway?
This is extremely embarrassing for the Conservative Government in dealing with Saudi Arabia, however, again highlights our shame in dealing with this inhumane state.
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Pffft...he'll be out there kowtowing with a bunch of arms manufacturers next week...that's assuming Liam Fox hasn't booked the last seat on the plane for his pal Adam Werrity
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Has he opposed sales of arms to Saudia Arabia or does he see them as an export opportunity?
Theresa May out there being all pally with them too!!
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Pffft...he'll be out there kowtowing with a bunch of arms manufacturers next week...that's assuming Liam Fox hasn't booked the last seat on the plane for his pal Adam Werrity
![]() Still it brings the Saudi issue to forefront of the British electorate again, regardless of the Boris visit. |
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A slap in the face for Boris or a knee in the groin? Quote:
Thersea May slaps down Boris Johnson after he accuses Saudis of ‘proxy wars’
Downing Street said the Foreign Secretary’s remarks were his own and did not reflect government policy towards Saudi Arabia, one of Britain’s most important and sensitive allies in the Middle East. “The Foreign Secretary will be in Saudi Arabia on Sunday and has the opportunity to set out the way the UK sees its relationship with Saudi Arabia,” she said. |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...vernments-view
Pretty silly. Of course Saudi Arabia, as a contender for leading Sunni state, takes a major role in te Sunni-Shia war. Just as Iran is even more behind Shia's combatants everywhere. Iran though has anti-western and anti-Israel ambitions that Saudi Arabia hasn't. Its got the missiles, nuclear programmes and continually exercises its ability to attack the west. And its the power fighting for minority rule in Syria , its responsible for both the Hizbollah threat to israel , and the Iraqi governments's policy on the Sunni that restarted that war, and its behind the Houthi rebellion in Yemen causing the trouble there. . The Saudis are entitled to defend themselves, and take the side of Sunnis being attacked by Shia. Boris seems to be as unsuitable as he was likely to be as Foreign Secretary. May seems bound to give him a top job - so he can sell the brexit deal to leave voters - but he may be in the wrong job. She could have made Boris minister for brexit, let Davis be chief negotiator, and let Fox go on a world tour for 2 years - to keep him out of the way. She might have even done a Heath and made Cameron Foreign Secretary, avoided the bull in a china shop, and avoided having sacked Cameron ministers biting her continually. |
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Anyone seen the gaffer tape? Quote:
When do Boris Johnson's 'gaffes' become a liability for the PM? Slow boat to China for Boris?
It is not so much what Boris Johnson said about the Middle East that raises questions, it is Downing Street's reaction to it. When a Foreign Secretary cannot be relied upon to get things right about one of the country's closest strategic allies, he becomes a liability to a Prime Minister - and the media starts to wonder if his future is in doubt. |
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Johnson! You are sacked! Security - take away this man's security passes, stripsearch him and escort him off the premises immediately!
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Of course though he is right. What the Saudi's are doing in Yemen is absolutely criminal.
Still he is foreign secretary, his job is to maintain relations so we can sell them weapons to blow up hospitals in Yemen. |
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Pretty silly. Of course Saudi Arabia, as a contender for leading Sunni state, takes a major role in te Sunni-Shia war. Just as Iran is even more behind Shia's combatants everywhere. Iran though has anti-western and anti-Israel ambitions that Saudi Arabia hasn't. Its got the missiles, nuclear programmes and continually exercises its ability to attack the west. And its the power fighting for minority rule in Syria , its responsible for both the Hizbollah threat to israel , and the Iraqi governments's policy on the Sunni that restarted that war, and its behind the Houthi rebellion in Yemen causing the trouble there. . The Saudis are entitled to defend themselves, and take the side of Sunnis being attacked by Shia. Boris seems to be as unsuitable as he was likely to be as Foreign Secretary. May seems bound to give him a top job - so he can sell the brexit deal to leave voters - but he may be in the wrong job. She could have made Boris minister for brexit, let Davis be chief negotiator, and let Fox go on a world tour for 2 years - to keep him out of the way. She might have even done a Heath and made Cameron Foreign Secretary, avoided the bull in a china shop, and avoided having sacked Cameron ministers biting her continually. It might be terrible timing by Boris Johnson, but I doubt anyone could successfully argue that what he said is anything else but absolutely true. |
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I always thought that BJ as FS was May's master stroke. Give him some responsibility and he will quickly self implode.
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Saudi Arabia have effectively been exporting their extreme brand of Islam around the world for years. The existence and rise of ISIS can be traced back to SA, but the monster finally grew out of their control.
It might be terrible timing by Boris Johnson, but I doubt anyone could successfully argue that what he said is anything else but absolutely true. |
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Would he have said it if he was PM?
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Politician tells the truth shocker.
I can see how this would freak Labour out. |
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Shot down yet again by Mrs May. How long can this clown continue to be Foreign Secretary?
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Shot down yet again by Mrs May. How long can this clown continue to be Foreign Secretary?
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Given that Boris has spent his life creating lie after lie with people loving him for it I find it ironic that he could lose his job for telling the truth.
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Given that Boris has spent his life creating lie after lie with people loving him for it I find it ironic that he could lose his job for telling the truth.
I guess that's politics for you. |
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.. and its behind the Houthi rebellion in Yemen causing the trouble there. . The Saudis are entitled to defend themselves, and take the side of Sunnis being attacked by Shia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn_v9GJlTsg Box full of S.Korean grenades, explosives, lots of ammunition and cases of unused rocket launchers.. All left for the Houthis. There's quite a few vids on YT showing the same sort of abandoned kit.. But I guess the Saudis can always buy more. Shame they can't control where it ends up after they've abandoned it and fled though. |
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Rumours say that IDS is in the running to replace Boris.
Going from the ridiculous to the callous. |
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Theresa May out there being all pally with them too!!