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I thought the channel 5 one was a repeat
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They used drama to highlight the points raised and in my view it gave a more intelligible insight than a load of waffle could have done. It was all in context.
She knows she's not an actress but she's game to get stuck in the parts and playing out scenes without taking things too seriously. Her approach makes a refreshing change from some stern academic professor talking-heads that then goes into a dull scene (not that there's anything wrong with that). She seemed to relish the costumed roles in her A Very British Murder series, especially the 'Red Barn Murder' and 'Bermondsey Horror' cases. I'm completely enchanted by her when she's on screen. |
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There are plenty of learned tomes and academic papers on history so why do you lower yourself to watch these programmes when you have such a low opinion of them?
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Every programme Lucy Worsely has presented has been absolutely fascinating.
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Why was Henry VIII a brunette in this?
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Superb,and immensely watchable,as is everything Lucy does.
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I usually like her tv stuff, but this is not my era, tudor stuff is too far back in time to be interesting .
I preferred her crime in literature series. |
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Watch Vienna on BBC4 to see how to present these subjects properly.
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I usually like her tv stuff, but this is not my era, tudor stuff is too far back in time to be interesting .
I preferred her crime in literature series. Quote:
Watch Vienna on BBC4 to see how to present these subjects properly.
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Must admit the second episode felt a little rushed and disappointing. The first episode was almost entirely dedicated to Katherine and then we had three deaths squeezed into the second episode! The pacing is off. I defintely felt more could have been told about Jane Seymour.
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I'm a big Lucy Worsley fan but am a bit disappointed in this, although I respect the fact that this dramatic documentary hybrid is trying something new.
There seems to be a contradiction going on. Lucy states that the established historiography has made the wives one dimensional and not really fleshed them out or looked at new evidence and whilst that's true......she seems to give this exact one dimensional treatment to Henry, (the fat tyrannical monster etc. etc.) Again much of that is accurate. But some modern scholars have suggested he was bipolar, or that he had suffered some brain damage In a jousting accident, which made him that way. That's interesting, worth investigating and puts things (his relationships) in a whole new perspective. |
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Must admit the second episode felt a little rushed and disappointing. The first episode was almost entirely dedicated to Katherine and then we had three deaths squeezed into the second episode! The pacing is off. I definitely felt more could have been told about Jane Seymour.
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That makes eight?
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That makes eight?
![]() So perhaps two per episode. But even then, there's probably so much more to tell about his first marriage that it would take up a whole hour rather than spending a set 30 minutes on each of the six marriages and having to stretch some out to fit the time slot. |
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For the subject matter of Anne Boleyn I don't think you can beat Wolf Hall for a magnificent portrayal.
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Lucy is a national treasure on this forum and has her own dedicated thread here for her fans to post in so we can keep up with what shows she is working on next. Feel free to join us
![]() As for this new series, I loved the first episode. Of course anything to do with Henry and his wives has been told many times but having Lucy on board really enhances this one. And she can act too! Those tears when Katherine was making her emotional plea to Henry was Oscar worthy from Dr Worsley ![]() Quote:
More importantly though she isn't well-versed in every corner of history and so essentially she's little more than a presenter reading stuff out. They try to add an air of authority to the programmes by using her but she is no more expert on this stuff than a lot of people and they might as well have used Fearne Cotton. Would it have killed them to use someone who actually specialised in Tudor history?!
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Lucy has an animated and playful character. I'm glad she doesn't feel the need to suppress it in order to come across as a stereotypical stuffy historian with a monotone delivery.
And the "skulking" in the background dressed in Tudor style is a cheeky nod to how she loves dressing up. Personally, I love how she's injecting her personality over all her work and if she's making history more engaging for the masses, then she's doing her job. Quote:
Annoyingly, people keep banging on about 'The CH5 one' .. which is all very well if you've actually seen it, but this thread is about 'The BBC one', so can we all stick with that, please!
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I'm a big Lucy Worsley fan but am a bit disappointed in this, although I respect the fact that this dramatic documentary hybrid is trying something new.
There seems to be a contradiction going on. Lucy states that the established historiography has made the wives one dimensional and not really fleshed them out or looked at new evidence and whilst that's true......she seems to give this exact one dimensional treatment to Henry, (the fat tyrannical monster etc. etc.) Again much of that is accurate. But some modern scholars have suggested he was bipolar, or that he had suffered some brain damage In a jousting accident, which made him that way. That's interesting, worth investigating and puts things (his relationships) in a whole new perspective. Quote:
For the subject matter of Anne Boleyn I don't think you can beat Wolf Hall for a magnificent portrayal.
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More importantly though she isn't well-versed in every corner of history and so essentially she's little more than a presenter reading stuff out. They try to add an air of authority to the programmes by using her but she is no more expert on this stuff than a lot of people and they might as well have used Fearne Cotton. Would it have killed them to use someone who actually specialised in Tudor history?! . |
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I adore Lucy Worsley, her programmes are so captivating and wonderful, their a delight to sit down to. She's one of those rare people who couldn't do a 'bad' job of something if they tried, everything she does is pure gold. I could watch her presenting a show about paint drying and still find it informative and an absolute enthralling joy to watch
.Haha, I feel like that when it comes to David Starkey ![]() I think he is fantastic. Lucy, not so much. I can watch her without getting too annoyed, but she is too childish for my taste. |
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You do know she's an historian and joint Chief Curator of the royal palaces - right?
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You do know she's an historian and joint Chief Curator of the royal palaces - right?
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So why does she have to act like such a dipshit?
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The actress that played the supposedly ugly Anne of Cleves was in fact very pretty.
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Yes, I thought so too.
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I've not paid much attention to the programme when it was on in earlier weeks but I really enjoyed tonight's show. I felt sorry for Catherine Howard and even before it was said I wondered if she had been sexually abused. Really enjoyed hearing about Catherine Parr in a different light and felt sad for her and her daughter that she died one week after giving birth.
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More importantly though she isn't well-versed in every corner of history and so essentially she's little more than a presenter reading stuff out. Would it have killed them to use someone who actually specialised in Tudor history?! Quote:
Lightweight froth for the mouth-breathing masses presented by arguably the most irritating woman on television.
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