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Old 08-12-2016, 12:08
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OP perhaps you should take a long look at yourself if you are genuine about uniting the nation, as you have posted numerous posts insulting those who are concerned about the ramifications of Brexit.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:11
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OP perhaps you should take a long look at yourself if you are genuine about uniting the nation, as you have posted numerous posts insulting those who are concerned about the ramifications of Brexit.
We've all said things we might regret in the heat of battle for Brexit and it wasn't JUST on-sided I was defending myself a lot. But now it's over we need to move on and unite - that's my point.

What's done is done, to continue to harbour bad feelings and bitterness about the past isn't going to help the now and future.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:13
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By allowing scotland & wales & n. ireland to leave the uk, and rejoin the e.u.
Honestly, Scotland would be much worse off without the UK and in the EU.

Could you imagine how bad of a deal the EU would give them?!
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:34
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We've all said things we might regret in the heat of battle for Brexit and it wasn't JUST on-sided I was defending myself a lot. But now it's over we need to move on and unite - that's my point.

What's done is done, to continue to harbour bad feelings and bitterness about the past isn't going to help the now and future.

The only problem, though, is that it isn't done and in the past. The ramifications are going to adversely affect people for years. They ain't going to want to be 'unified' at all.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:36
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Honestly, Scotland would be much worse off without the UK and in the EU.

Could you imagine how bad of a deal the EU would give them?!
However, that would be their decision to make, their own future to decide, a dog's breakfast for their owned elected politicians to make. Isn't that what Brexit was supposed to be all about?
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:45
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The only problem, though, is that it isn't done and in the past. The ramifications are going to adversely affect people for years. They ain't going to want to be 'unified' at all.
Indeed. There's a whole generation of young people, some of whom were too young to get a vote in the referendum, who will be adversely affected in the decades to come by the decision to exit the EU.

They'll be denied all the freedoms and opportunities in work and travel that previous generations had being part of Europe and who then voted to deny them to future generations.

You couldn't really blame them for feeling upset and bitter about this IMO and it will be difficult to see how the country can unite.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:46
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Staggering thread from one of the forum's most gung-ho "suck it up" Brexiters. Maybe he/she's swallowed a reasonable pill. Maybe the fallout is beginning to dawn.

I welcome the intention, but then the usual suspects roll up sticking the usual barbs in.

The only thing that could unite would be a second referendum over the terms of Brexit as I suggested yesterday. That won't happen of course, but it should.

There will be no healing nor uniting. Half the country despises the other for destroying its future, and the other half resents any questioning of what is happening. Very, very sad. My feelings about the UK have changed totally since the 23rd, and I can't see it ever changing for the better. My brother and I haven't spoken since.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:51
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Staggering thread from one of the forum's most gung-ho "suck it up" Brexiters. Maybe he/she's swallowed a reasonable pill. Maybe the fallout is beginning to dawn.

I welcome the intention, but then the usual suspects roll up sticking the usual barbs in.

The only thing that could unite would be a second referendum over the terms of Brexit as I suggested yesterday. That won't happen of course, but it should.

There will be no healing nor uniting. Half the country despises the other for destroying its future, and the other half resents any questioning of what is happening. Very, very sad. My feelings about the UK have changed totally since the 23rd, and I can't see it ever changing for the better. My brother and I haven't spoken since.




I haven't met anybody that resents anyone who voted to exit the EU, indeed I very rarely hear it mentioned, and as for not speaking to you brother, you should be ashamed of yourself
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:58
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In the EU referendum Scotland voted to remain but to listen to the Prime Minister she only talks of the mandate from 17.5m, thus Scotland yet again finds itself ignored.
But it was a UK vote, or do you believe that the 1.6 million Scottish leave voters have more of a say than the rest of the UK?... If so, what about the 1 million Scottish voters that voted leave?.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:04
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We've all said things we might regret in the heat of battle for Brexit and it wasn't JUST on-sided I was defending myself a lot. But now it's over we need to move on and unite - that's my point.

What's done is done, to continue to harbour bad feelings and bitterness about the past isn't going to help the now and future.
Within the last day or so you posted about Gina Miller deserving everything she is getting. So rape threats and people saying they'll kill her children just 'moving on'?
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:14
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Indeed. There's a whole generation of young people, some of whom were too young to get a vote in the referendum, who will be adversely affected in the decades to come by the decision to exit the EU.

They'll be denied all the freedoms and opportunities in work and travel that previous generations had being part of Europe and who then voted to deny them to future generations.

You couldn't really blame them for feeling upset and bitter about this IMO and it will be difficult to see how the country can unite.
They'll understand why their elders did it when they are older.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:16
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Within the last day or so you posted about Gina Miller deserving everything she is getting. So rape threats and people saying they'll kill her children just 'moving on'?
Where did I say she deserves racial abuse, death and rape threats? please show me the post.. I criticized her as I think she's an interfering smug git who because she has money thinks she can interfere and block the will of the people.. but I NEVER said I agree with that.

Get the facts right please.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:17
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Staggering thread from one of the forum's most gung-ho "suck it up" Brexiters. Maybe he/she's swallowed a reasonable pill. Maybe the fallout is beginning to dawn.

I welcome the intention, but then the usual suspects roll up sticking the usual barbs in.

The only thing that could unite would be a second referendum over the terms of Brexit as I suggested yesterday. That won't happen of course, but it should.

There will be no healing nor uniting. Half the country despises the other for destroying its future, and the other half resents any questioning of what is happening. Very, very sad. My feelings about the UK have changed totally since the 23rd, and I can't see it ever changing for the better. My brother and I haven't spoken since.
I have seen no evidence of disunity, in fact I see people who voted to remain, wanting to get on with the job of leaving, some of them on here which ought to help you see the light. I've spoken to my brother and sister in the past month or so and the subject never even came up. Wich one of you and your brother doesn't want to speak to the other?
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:23
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The elder ones should try explaining to the young members of their family about the fantastic opportunities that can arise from Brexit, and what Britain was like before entering the UK and how fantastic the country was.

If you never had something, you can't miss it.. so the people who was born while we was in the EU never knew what it was like before. The days of when you could live in a small town and leave your doors open for friends to come by for a cuppa etc.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:24
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They'll understand why their elders did it when they are older.
I'm sure that will be a real comfort to them with much reduced opportunities.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:28
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The elder ones should try explaining to the young members of their family about the fantastic opportunities that can arise from Brexit, and what Britain was like before entering the UK and how fantastic the country was.

If you never had something, you can't miss it.. so the people who was born while we was in the EU never knew what it was like before. The days of when you could live in a small town and leave your doors open for friends to come by for a cuppa etc.
The country was broke and on its knees as we were still paying off a huge loan to the Americans after the second world war! If you voted Brexit for nostalgia reasons, that I can't understand.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:32
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Where did I say she deserves racial abuse, death and rape threats? please show me the post.. I criticized her as I think she's an interfering smug git who because she has money thinks she can interfere and block the will of the people.. but I NEVER said I agree with that.

Get the facts right please.
On a previous thread you said she deserves everything she gets.

chiangmai1 3 hours ago
all those mp,s who support leave will keep the seats.the others who don,t may be out the next time a vote happens.the gina millers of the uk deserve what they get against what the people want

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/234900...iament-result/

Couldn't have put it better myself ! the rats have been exposed ! May's trap was executed perfectly, brilliantly set up. She played a blinder here.

Smug and arrogant Gina Miller, who has no business in the political arena in the first place with the big boys and girls and interfering in the will of the British people.. can now do one ! I don't think she don't care about the British people she doesn't seem patriotric.. she seem to care just about herself/her own agendas and I'm really glad she ain't stopping Brexit ! we would never never of heard the end of it.. the irony is all that money she's wasted on court fees and cases, plus travelling to the supreme court.. all for nothing !
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:32
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The elder ones should try explaining to the young members of their family about the fantastic opportunities that can arise from Brexit, and what Britain was like before entering the UK and how fantastic the country was.
I remember very well what it was like. I can't think of anyone who'd want to go back to it.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:32
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We can't society has been fragmenting for the last twenty years, and now Britain wants to fragment Europe.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:57
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I haven't met anybody that resents anyone who voted to exit the EU, indeed I very rarely hear it mentioned, and as for not speaking to you brother, you should be ashamed of yourself
If brexit is an economic disaster, as is looking very possible, then expect to meet a lot of us.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:58
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The elder ones should try explaining to the young members of their family about the fantastic opportunities that can arise from Brexit, and what Britain was like before entering the UK and how fantastic the country was.

If you never had something, you can't miss it.. so the people who was born while we was in the EU never knew what it was like before. The days of when you could live in a small town and leave your doors open for friends to come by for a cuppa etc.
A post so ridiculous that from nearly anyone else i would assume it is a joke. Unfortunately i know it is not...
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:02
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how would you go about this very difficult and sensitive aftermath position of healing and uniting the nation?
I'd try to find a non-eu country willing to accept the brexiters and then send them on a one way ticket to paradise. Problem solved!
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:04
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The elder ones should try explaining to the young members of their family about the fantastic opportunities that can arise from Brexit, and what Britain was like before entering the UK and how fantastic the country was.

If you never had something, you can't miss it.. so the people who was born while we was in the EU never knew what it was like before. The days of when you could live in a small town and leave your doors open for friends to come by for a cuppa etc.
Oh, I've just realised what is behind all this. You're thinking of the wrong country. Which one do you think you've mixed up with the UK? That would be the UK which was on its knees before it joined the EC.

You're like a parody of every backward thinking muppet who can't bear the fact the world has moved on and is desperate for the country of their childhood, when they were too busy playing to notice the catastrophe that was the economy of the time.

I wouldn't advise leaving your door unlocked the day after we leave the EU if I were you

God help us all.
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:06
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On a previous thread you said she deserves everything she gets.

chiangmai1 3 hours ago
all those mp,s who support leave will keep the seats.the others who don,t may be out the next time a vote happens.the gina millers of the uk deserve what they get against what the people want

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/234900...iament-result/

Couldn't have put it better myself ! the rats have been exposed ! May's trap was executed perfectly, brilliantly set up. She played a blinder here.

Smug and arrogant Gina Miller, who has no business in the political arena in the first place with the big boys and girls and interfering in the will of the British people.. can now do one ! I don't think she don't care about the British people she doesn't seem patriotric.. she seem to care just about herself/her own agendas and I'm really glad she ain't stopping Brexit ! we would never never of heard the end of it.. the irony is all that money she's wasted on court fees and cases, plus travelling to the supreme court.. all for nothing !

The Gina Millers of this World mean the people trying to stop Brexit.. I.E the Nick Cleggs, the Remoaners on here, Tony Blair.. basically they got what they deserved yesterday with the MP's voting for Brexit. That is what I agreed with to clarify.
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:07
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They'll understand why their elders did it when they are older.
This 'elder' voted, as did many others, to retain the status quo because of the futures of the generations due to inherit our country/continent/world.

Perhaps it's time to stop this simplistic stereotyping.
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