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Back in 2005, a Guardian reader sent in a question about whether it was possible to live off the earnings from a Christmas hit - and Greg Lake wrote back with his answer:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/mu...er-to-guardian "Any chance of this being the Xmas number one this year. Pretty meaningless these days but still would be a nice tribute." |
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On the subject of royalties, I wonder whether Greg Lake (and the other members of King Crimson) made anything from the Kanye West song Power which sampled 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Anyway, RIP. |
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I notice that the usual suspects are back in the singles chart this week.
Mariah, Pogues, Shaky, Band Aid, etc.... Would be nice to see Greg make a big re entry next week. |
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I notice that the usual suspects are back in the singles chart this week.
Mariah, Pogues, Shaky, Band Aid, etc.... Would be nice to see Greg make a big re entry next week. As for those re-entries, aren't people un-imaginative. The same old clapped out festive songs around and around every year. Take Shaky for example, all you ever hear is his 1985 Christmas No1 but he had another enormous Christmas No2 hit three year before that in 1982 called Blue Christmas. It will soon be heard on BBC4's Top Of The Pops 1982. But do you ever hear that song anywhere? Nope. Another one that I bought last year and never seems to get heard and was in the same Christmas top five as Greg Lake in 1975 is Dana's It's Gonna Be A Cold Cold Christmas. It's also about time that some brand new Christmas songs were made that charted. You have to go back to 2003 when we had The Darkness at No2 with Christmas Time and Cliff at No5 with Santa's List. It would be deserved for the Greg Lake song to top the charts this Christmas. But it won't even get near. |
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I was actually listening to Greg Lake's I Believe In Father Christmas yesterday at the exact same moment I keyed up the news of his passing on the BBC news website. That came as a shock. It is one of the very finest Christmas tunes and it particularly reminds me of Christmas morning for some reason.
As for those re-entries, aren't people un-imaginative. The same old clapped out festive songs around and around every year. Take Shaky for example, all you ever hear is his 1985 Christmas No1 but he had another enormous Christmas No2 hit three year before that in 1982 called Blue Christmas. It will soon be heard on BBC4's Top Of The Pops 1982. But do you ever hear that song anywhere? Nope. Another one that I bought last year and never seems to get heard and was in the same Christmas top five as Greg Lake in 1975 is Dana's It's Gonna Be A Cold Cold Christmas. It's also about time that some brand new Christmas songs were made that charted. You have to go back to 2003 when we had The Darkness at No2 with Christmas Time and Cliff at No5 with Santa's List. It would be deserved for the Greg Lake song to top the charts this Christmas. But it won't even get near. I have the same beef with Cliff's 'Mistletoe & Wine' which is just about the only classic Cliff Christmas song you hear, however in my opinion his 1982 offering Little Town is far, far superior yet never gets played. Other 70's classics that are underplayed include Gilbert O'Sullivan's Christmas Song and Showaddywaddy's Hey Mr Christmas. |
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Sad news - RIP Greg. I do like to hear 'I believe in Father Christmas', on the radio every December. The line in the song were Greg sings 'they sold me a Silent Night' always makes me think of someone stood in as store, being sold a Silent Night bed or mattress
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On the subject of royalties, I wonder whether Greg Lake (and the other members of King Crimson) made anything from the Kanye West song Power which sampled 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Anyway, RIP. |
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I come from the Bournemouth/Poole area and can remember Greg playing in local clubs, hotels and other venues, also joining up with Bob Fripp another local lad done good. Learning to play guitar aged 12 with 2 local people - so sad, but what fabulous music he did...
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They said there'd be snow at Christmas
They said there'd be peace on earth But instead it just kept on raining... Sad news. |
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No mention of his death on BBC or ITV 10 o'clock news. I know ELP were a very contentious band and represented the worst excesses of prog-rock to many (something I would agree with), but to not even mention in a line the death of the frontman of a British band that sold 48 million albums worldwide - not to mention released the already mentioned popular Christmas hit - was fairly extraordinary.
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I think its because too many journalists are Punk fans. I do love Punk but I hate the snobbish attitude that some people like Paul Morley have against Prog, yet always wittering on about Punk.
I borrowed Television's "Marquee Moon" off a mate of mine and the liner notes instead of limiting themselves to talking about this great album had to have a dig at Prog at the same time |
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I think its because too many journalists are Punk fans. I do love Punk but I hate the snobbish attitude that some people like Paul Morley have against Prog, yet always wittering on about Punk.
I borrowed Television's "Marquee Moon" off a mate of mine and the liner notes instead of limiting themselves to talking about this great album had to have a dig at Prog at the same time If they're so biased against prog you might have thought they'd have found someone a bit cooler than Wakeman to talk about Bowie.
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Rick is as cool a they come. Not many could live the rock and roll life he has had *and* dare to put on "Spinal Tap" on Ice and come out the other side a survivor.
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I think its because too many journalists are Punk fans. I do love Punk but I hate the snobbish attitude that some people like Paul Morley have against Prog, yet always wittering on about Punk.
I borrowed Television's "Marquee Moon" off a mate of mine and the liner notes instead of limiting themselves to talking about this great album had to have a dig at Prog at the same time |
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You may be right, but curiously enough that didn't stop the same broadcasters dusting down Rick Wakeman to interview him on numerous programmes about the death of David Bowie.
If they're so biased against prog you might have thought they'd have found someone a bit cooler than Wakeman to talk about Bowie. ![]() This is a beautiful rendition of Life On Mars that Rick recorded as a tribute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwvltziYBAM |
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No mention of his death on BBC or ITV 10 o'clock news. I know ELP were a very contentious band and represented the worst excesses of prog-rock to many (something I would agree with), but to not even mention in a line the death of the frontman of a British band that sold 48 million albums worldwide - not to mention released the already mentioned popular Christmas hit - was fairly extraordinary.
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I think its because too many journalists are Punk fans. I do love Punk but I hate the snobbish attitude that some people like Paul Morley have against Prog, yet always wittering on about Punk.
I borrowed Television's "Marquee Moon" off a mate of mine and the liner notes instead of limiting themselves to talking about this great album had to have a dig at Prog at the same time I spoke a while ago to Jerry Ewing, the editor of Prog magazine, about this. Prog Magazine has a feature of well known people and their love of Progressive music and I mentioned they often feature people more associated with Punk. He told me that was deliberate so they could debunk the myth Punk "killed" Prog and that they "hated" Prog, a myth still perpetuated today by the likes of Paul Morley. |
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I always find it interesting that a classical musician is called a virtuoso, but a Rock musician who plays to the same level is more likely to be called "self indulgent".
He told me that was deliberate so they could debunk the myth Punk "killed" Prog and that they "hated" Prog, a myth still perpetuated today by the likes of Paul Morley. i didnt know any punk fans that liked prog, not so sure that a myth. |
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ELP were three very talented musicians who pushed each other as far as they could. I always find it interesting that a classical musician is called a virtuoso, but a Rock musician who plays to the same level is more likely to be called "self indulgent".
The members of ELP could seriously play and should be recognised for that. I sometimes find myself singing one of the melodies of the Five Bridges Suite, which surely shows it's a good composition. The piano at about 2:42 is lovely, like Duke Ellington goes to Newcastle. |
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maybe a virtuoso is a musician that could interprate somebody elses music, whilst a prog rocker seems to do it to show off 'look what i can do with my music'?... i dunno... i dont 'get' prog rock any more then some classical.
i didnt know any punk fans that liked prog, not so sure that a myth. |
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Off the top of my head John Lydon was a Van Der Graaf Generator and early Pink Floyd fan, Peter hook liked Hawkwind and Deep Purple, I could trawl back through my Prog Magazines and find plenty of other examples...
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Off the top of my head John Lydon was a Van Der Graaf Generator and early Pink Floyd fan, Peter hook liked Hawkwind and Deep Purple, I could trawl back through my Prog Magazines and find plenty of other examples...
from my experience , there was no interaction between prog and punk. i accept there might have been elsewhere, i cant talk for everyone, but i dont think there was much. |
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Listening to RadMac last week and they played Fleetwood Mac's Tusk and saying that it was rumoured (sic get it?
) that it was Lindsey Buckingham's attempt at making a punk record!
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indeed, i know that, but i dont/didnt know them! of course there are exceptions to every rule, but im only going on personal experience both in my generation and the generation below who i worked with in a youth club.
from my experience , there was no interaction between prog and punk. i accept there might have been elsewhere, i cant talk for everyone, but i dont think there was much. I would suggest not. |
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But then in the context of the time, would any self-respecting Punk publically admit a deep-rooted love of the likes of Magma, Foxtrot-era Genesis, or Yes, no matter how much they loved them?
I would suggest not. ![]()
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maybe...... or maybe punks in general really didnt like prog! id suggest not!
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