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Old 08-12-2016, 19:23
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I've watched the video. I think Craig did an excellent job of giving shade to a programme he obviously hated.

The comment about liking the rape was in a list with liking the cleavers through the skulls. Why isn't anyone getting upset on behalf of victims of knife crime? Because it was obviously a funny list of things Craig didn't like about Game of Thrones. Along with the dragons.

Storm in a teacup, darlings.
I thought he was being sarcastic?
Sounds about right.
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:25
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I feel that this sort of outrage should be directed at those who have genuinely caused great distress. This person quoted is making assumptions on behalf of others. Besides, does this mean that anyone who likes the programme is sick? I mean, most of it is gratuitous sex and violence. It's acting.
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:37
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I agree he should be fired for this, a new panel next year since Bruno said he may go with Len he sticks to this then craig fired it would be good for a nearly all new fresh panel next series
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:42
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I agree he should be fired for this, a new panel next year since Bruno said he may go with Len he sticks to this then craig fired it would be good for a nearly all new fresh panel next series
No, ( and adding to my prior posts). This has nothing to do with Strictly, not said on the BBC, and in conversation thst has nothing to do with SCD.

What he said was wrong, but in no way a sackable offence.

X Factor changed its panel too often and viewers fell from 16 million to 4.75 million.
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:44
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Sorry but I take offense to your offense. Rape is incredibly serious. So is permanent spinal injury, limb amputation, and death, all of which are possible outcomes of the high speed car crashes that we see in movies.
You seem to have a hierarchy of what counts as serious. A rape victim's injuries are not externalised in most cases. To put the two together as you do is offensive. You can up the ante by bristling with greater offense. It means nowt given what you have demonstrated.
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:58
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No, ( and adding to my prior posts). This has nothing to do with Strictly, not said on the BBC, and in conversation thst has nothing to do with SCD.

What he said was wrong, but in no way a sackable offence.

X Factor changed its panel too often and viewers fell from 16 million to 4.75 million.
Ah yes, your X Factor bashing continues when it has nothing to do with this thread. It's never dropped that low anyway.

Why should Craig be sacked anyway? Completely blown out of proportion, as usual the Daily Fail and The Scum want to bash the BBC.
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:00
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Time to ban this?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigZ1fmwD-Q
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:03
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Ah yes, your X Factor bashing continues when it has nothing to do with this thread. It's never dropped that low anyway.

Why should Craig be sacked anyway? Completely blown out of proportion, as usual the Daily Fail and The Scum want to bash the BBC.
It's a fact.....don't change judges, the " Live" ratings for XF was that last weekend.

It's a warning to SCD future if the judges were all changed.

You actually have taken my comments " way out of context " .Maybe a bit like The Sun. You just seem to want to jump on my post, and take this thread off topic.

I agree with your last line it's blown out of proportion and no need for any sackings....it's a channel 4 show, So they should deal with it.....
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:07
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It's a fact.....don't change judges, the " Live" ratings for XF was thst last weekend.

It's a warning to SCD future if the judges were all changed.

You actually have taken my comments " way out of context " .Maybe a bit like The Sun.
Oh so LIVE ratings. Ok then, not the ratings that get reported every morning on a weekend? No, sorry, I see this as just an excuse to have a dig at it for no reason at all.
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:11
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Oh so LIVE ratings. Ok then, not the ratings that get reported every morning on a weekend? No, sorry, I see this as just an excuse to have a dig at it for no reason at all.
You are really trying very hard to take this thread way off topic, it's not the place or the thread to do this, it's not appropriate.

A poster said, change all the judges, I responded, why I felt that is a wrong idea, end of, you have taken it out of context. Facts ratings fell there.

Those ratings were reported on The Ratings thread Sunday morning, the live ITV rating, ( not +1)

Consolidatied ratings are reported a week later.
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:41
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Craig didn't say that he enjoyed witnessing rape, he said, albeit sarcastically, that he enjoyed watching it portrayed in a fictional TV show.

Now as I said I think that he was being sarcastic and 'shading' Game of Thrones He could have been a little less clumsy in his phrasing but then again I always think of Craig as being not quite as clever and funny as he clearly thinks he is.

Fair enough though he doesn't like Game of Thrones, However many do, so does that mean that they all like watching the violence? I suppose they do, and what's wrong with that? It's fiction.
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:52
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He was probably just trying to be funny, and it backfired.

I'm definitely bored of the getting offended on behalf of other people.
I saw the prog - and this is about the size of it.

Craig's been a panellist on 8 Out of 10 Cats a time or two, and he makes the mistake of trying to compete with the likes of Sean Lock. Goes without saying that it never works.
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Old 08-12-2016, 21:18
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It seems the DM have put their knife into Craig after his apperance on 8 out of 10 cats. Host Jimmy Carr, 44, asked Revel Horwood if he watched the programme and he replied: 'No, I persevered for the first series until the dragon came on and that's when I switched off.

'I liked all the sex scenes and the rape and I liked the cleavers through the skulls and I liked all of that, but I got very bored in the end.'

Marilyn Hawes, founder of Enough Abuse UK, said she was 'absolutely disgusted' by his comment. She said: 'Craig's comments are deeply disrespectful.

'His comment would have enraged many women and men who have been raped. How could he say he liked that scene? I'm absolutely disgusted.

'You cannot have people on a family show with that mindset. I think the BBC should get rid of him. It is so distressing for people who have been raped to hear that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...pe-scenes.html

I didnt see the show but like most things I suspect it's been taken out of context. Also 8 out 10 cats is hardly a family show and sometimes things are near the knuckle on it.
This article has to be the most ridiculous thing I have read. I didn't think PC people could get any worse but they evidently do
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Old 09-12-2016, 00:20
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A load of fuss over nothing .
It was a late night adult style show known for being outrageous . So what .
Unlike baby jay last year , banging on about dead babies on a tea time show , but jay was the pet so he got a by-ball while CRH gets vilified .Pfft
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Old 09-12-2016, 00:47
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Do you have personal experience of rape? My guess is not as you would not make such a statement in this cavalier way. The defenders of people who say inappropriate things are worse sometimes and so it is with your comment, which I find offensive.
Do you have personal experience of people trying to get on with their life after a car crash has killed or maimed someone? The freind and family devastation can be widespread and never ending.

There is no scale of horror, rape car crashes, murder are all horrific and devastate lives.

I am offended that you don't think a car crash cannot be as bad as a rape. It's often caused by power mad individuals, just like rape, the victims are often powerless just like rape.

Have some compassion for all who have experience of tragedies.

As for Craig, he has always been a pantomime villan, probably not the wisest thing he could say but if you really think he has expressed a wish to become a murderer or rapist you are taking offensive too much. It was a bad taste joke, did I enjoy it no but that's not what my sense of humour is.

Should he be censures for it, NO, we don't have thought or speech police.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:29
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I think in the context of the rest of his comment it was clearly meant to be OTT sarcasm. Saying something along the lines of "it wasn't the weird and gratuitous sex and violence that turned me off GOT, they were all fine, but dragons are a step too far" isn't poking fun at rape victims or anyone who has been cleaved in the head, he's not seriously saying he enjoyed the rape scene. He's also taking the pi$$ out of himself as much as the show in an attempted edgy/subversive way - haha, a normal person might be put off by rape and murder but I'm such a weirdo that all that's fine but don't expect me to accept dragons. It's inviting you to laugh at him and GOT, not rape.

And I say that as the wooliest of woolly liberal feminists (and someone who suffered sexual assault as a child) who is the first to call out rape culture and the like.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:30
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He was being sarcastic
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:34
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I think in the context of the rest of his comment it was clearly meant to be OTT sarcasm. Saying something along the lines of "it wasn't the weird and gratuitous sex and violence that turned me off GOT, they were all fine, but dragons are a step too far" isn't poking fun at rape victims or anyone who has been cleaved in the head, he's not seriously saying he enjoyed the rape scene. He's also taking the pi$$ out of himself as much as the show in an attempted edgy/subversive way - haha, a normal person might be put off by rape and murder but I'm such a weirdo that all that's fine but don't expect me to accept dragons. It's inviting you to laugh at him and GOT, not rape.

And I say that as the wooliest of woolly liberal feminists (and someone who suffered sexual assault as a child) who is the first to call out rape culture and the like.
Agree with this - sarcasm is lost on some though. Anyway, if Craig's comments about the programme are so offensive, what about the programme itself. Maybe if it portrays rape and violence for entertainment of others - it should be the one that's banned*. I have only ever watched 5 minutes of it and very quickly realised it wasn't for me, but then neither is 8 out of 10 cats
* I'm not saying it should be banned, btw, but if comments about the programme are enough to get people outraged then why not the programme itself?
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:03
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This article has to be the most ridiculous thing I have read. I didn't think PC people could get any worse but they evidently do
If one person who runs a charity against sexual abuse having an itchy trigger finger over comments relating to sexual abuse, probably goaded on by The Daily Mail looking for something to throw at the BBC and PC GORN MAD at the same time, is the very lowest that "PC Culture" can sink then I think we're fine.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:11
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He should apologise and explain his remark,( Sarcasm, joke etc ) great overreaction to call for his sacking. I love 8 Out of 10 Cats, and it's rarely pc ( especially Jimmy Carr )
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:28
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I thought he was being sarcastic?
Of course he was. He was either being sarcastic or very flippant. The violence, torture and sex is why the series is so popular, he was just highlighting the fact. But that seemed to go right over the head of Aisling, who is usually more intelligent than that.
Those who are so offended should be asking a more serious question, why is there such an appetite for this kind of stuff ? Are people so thick that they believe Craig is sitting at home drooling over scenes of rape and ultra-violence.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:31
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A load of fuss over nothing .
It was a late night adult style show known for being outrageous . So what .
Unlike baby jay last year , banging on about dead babies on a tea time show , but jay was the pet so he got a by-ball while CRH gets vilified .Pfft
That's your day made, eh? Got to dredge up that one.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:44
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Was anyone who watched the show actually calling for CRH to be sacked? or did the Mail simply ring someone up who they knew would be offended, tell them what CRH had said (without really putting it into context) knowing that they could then use the reply to create a click-bait headline!
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:05
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That's your day made, eh? Got to dredge up that one.
Just out of interest what was the Jay fuss about nothing about - context please I missed that one.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:46
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That's your day made, eh? Got to dredge up that one.
Why not ? Why is Jay off limits for criticism over stupid insensitive humour while CRH is fair game ?
I think watching a child dance on a vid clip and then declaring 'I just want to cut off his hair and hands and feet - and squeeze him - and put him in a bag and kick it .' on a tea time family show much worse than making adult sarcastic remarks in a late night show .
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