Gosh, we're determined to see this forum disappear up its own fundament this year, aren't we? First rehashing the entire Will Young saga, and now dragging up the Jay baby comment again.

What about that Pixie, eh? She should never have gone out when she did.

Why are people who are so easily offended watching 8 out of 10 cats anyway....

Austin wuz robbed too

It's claimed that 23 million people enjoy The Game of Thrones, so presumably they too enjoy watching all the sex and violence (from what I've heard that is mainly what the show is about) , so maybe they should all apologise for admitting to liking the show?

Oh good grief.

No, Jay isn't off-limits, but good lord, woman...it's been a YEAR! Let it go already.

#COLINWUZROBBED too.

Maybe we need to really discuss how Chris Parker ever got to the final?

I'm one of those supposed 23 million - and actually it's about a lot more than the sex and violence, but it's those references which make headlines which sell papers (and actually there's not really that much sex - not as much as things like versailles for instance hour for hour).

It isn't "PC gone mad" to find jokes/sarcasm about rape distasteful, and to say so. Why would people want to make such comments about rape anyway? it's not funny, it's not to be sneered at, and it's not to be "enjoyed". It's a horrible, violent, devastating crime.

What's actually wrong with being PC anyway? Being politically correct is just another way of saying that you try not to cause offence to other people. Why is that so dreadful?

Well, I've never even watched it but I know it's been very popular so yes, I'd imagine that it's become so for the simple reason that a lot of people like that sort of thing - sex, violence and all.

Or maybe some people are a bit odd and choose to watch such things because they don't like them, I dunno...

If people find that such scenes are not to their liking, they ought to express that by not watching the programme, however cherry-picking who may watch it and declare that they enjoyed it (or not) without being judged for doing so is frankly a little rich.

I agree with this, I do not know a lot about GOT I do not watch it, but reading The Sun, it seems, OK to watch it, but not OK for Craig to make a comment on it?

I am confused how it's OK to show it in a TV show on Sky, but not OK for a BBC judge to comment on it? Maybe as The Sun is part of Murdoch group that explains the double standards.

And I liked Lisa Snowdon . AND I voted for her !!! Eeek. .

It has nothing to do with not causing offence. It has everything to do with being offended on behalf of other people, closing down free speech, stifling and controlling those who have the outright gall to go around being human!

This is an absolutely typical example. Without so much as consulting the people who might conceivably actually have been affected (God forbid that people should be allowed to speak for themselves) some do-gooder organisation weighs in to tell us what they think the people who might be affected should think and complain that we haven't taken this (almost entirely fictitious) thinking into account so only death (or the end of our careers at least) is good enough for us. It is, as always totally disproportionate, unthinking, malice but it's ok because it's in a good cause! Trouble is when you actually speak to the people that these groups supposedly represent they almost always say they laughed it off or weren't bothered or, as often as not, took a clip[ and showed it to all their mates at work the next day!

The net effect of PC has been to do the exact opposite of its supposed intention. It has, in many, many cases, merely served to further marginalise and disenfranchise those who it claims to speak for by becoming an end in itself, outrage for outrage's sake, a cause that like pretty much every quasi-religion has become self-serving.

There, you go. That's what's wrong with PC.

Agree.

Game of Thrones is for people who enjoy this type of thing.. if anything it promotes the worst urges in people like sex, violence to let it out in an "acceptable way".. it is like a drug people feed on (hence the term binge watching). I don't think it's healthy at times and could be the cause of rage if there was a scientific study. I mean these are probably people who work in suits etc but they have a dark side of them they like to cater to ! to try to keep it in check..

I prefer the TV series that are more story based, character development. Give me LOST which tells a very important story and has a meaning/purpose over the overrated Game of Thrones anyday.

It's a little funny to see 'sex scenes' and 'cleavers through skulls' being summed up as boring, so I question his judgement on Game of Thrones.
But apart from that, meh.

Although if you want to get arsey about the wording, it was a poor choice of words about rape. On the show the recent rape scene was portrayed as deeply disturbing and upsetting, not to be liked, and the perpetrator got their comeuppance at the hands of their victim.

But since this was said after the watershed, seems like a lot of knicker-twisting over nothing.

I'm offended by rapists, and agree that it is a horribly, violent and usually devastating crime and I think if I watched GOT I'd probably be offended by that too (which is why I don't watch). However, I am not offended by people making sarcastic or sneering remarks about the portrayal of rape in a drama bring offered up as entertainment, which if I understand correctly is what Craig has done. There is a difference.

I can't see why people had a problem with this. It's obvious that he meant he liked the really soapy elements of it - the heaving bosoms and flowery language. He didn't mean he gets sexual pleasure from the rape scenes. If he's like me, he means that they're so overacted and shot so that they can show off as much nudity as possible that they're actually quite funny.

I have no issue with him liking scenes in a tv show, no matter how groce and violent they may be. They're just that, manufactured scenes.

Any series that has Charles Dance assassinated by a dwarf while he is having a shit cannot be described as boring! #JustSaying

BiB Nailed it.

Odd thing is, Craig no longer watches GoT as he seems not to be keen on Dragons.

I'm more upset that Craig used to be a prostitute! That's more of a reason why he shouldn't be on SCD? Hardly a role model. Not that I think he shouldn't be on SCD, but if you disapprove of sex workers then you could get all 'Daily Mail' about his past rather than his comments about a fantasy tv show!

OK, I've never watched it , but with those two lines you've just sold it to me big time .

I note even The Sun, has given up on this subject. Today's Sun has a very very small article inside, hidden away that CRH has apologised for any upset. The Sun has moved in due to lack of " outcry " on their pathetic drumming up of a non story.

Murdoch group are happy to screen GOT but have outcry if anyone likes it.

PC can sometimes be a bad thing when taken to the extremes, but as a trans person, my life would be considerably worse without political correctness from other people. It doesn't have to be a bad thing, and free speech isn't necessarily a good thing.