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PIP Question on Descripters
First of all i'm am in bits, i received the invite letter 2 days ago and have 3 weeks to decide if i want to claim it or not, obviously if i don't i will be told when the last payment is.
I more than likely will but i am in no way ringing them up now because i don't want to be filling in the form over christmas as it will stress me out even more and i doubt i would eat anything. I suffer bad mental, anxiety, depression issues among 1 or 2 other things that even the doctors don't know the causes of me feeling faint and nearly passing out several times a week. Anyhow there is one bit that mention Managing therapy or monitoring a health condition etc. The first bit on the descripter can you take medication aided or need help. on C & D it mentions managing therapy for no more than 3.5 hrs a week, then D no more than 7 hrs a week. What sort of managing therapy is it talking about because i'm not getting the example of answers to what this maybe. Is it going to see a mental health person on CBT or something like that or is it more a physio type therapy. Good luck to, others that are now starting this process but its just wearing be down thinking about it
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Check out the "help with your PIP claim" section on the attached link
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...nd-carers/pip/ |
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It's not an easy form to fill in. Citizens Advice, and probably other organisations too, will help you with it if that would be useful. There's evidence that claimants who've had help have a greater chance of success that those who've struggled with it on their own. So please don't feel you're on your own.
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From PIP Assessment Guide Quote:
This activity takes into account the administration of medication or therapy irrespective of who delivers it, and includes delivery by healthcare professionals, such as district or community psychiatric nurses. It only applies to medication/therapy delivered in the home environment i.e. where the claimant lives (and may include care homes), that has been prescribed/recommended by a registered healthcare professional or pharmacist. Only applies to the home or a home-type environment. The form does say "treatments carried out at home". Eg If you need help with dialysis at home, it counts, whereas if you have dialysis in hospital, it doesn't as you have no additional costs. Similarly with something like physiotherapy. Travel costs are dealt with outside of PIP.
Examples of prescribed or recommended medication include tablets, inhalers, creams, suppositories and enemas. Therapies could include domiciliary dialysis, nebulisers and exercise regimes to prevent complications, such as contractures. Whilst medications and therapies do not necessarily have to be prescribed, there must be a consensus of medical opinion that supports their use in treatment of the condition, hence the necessity for it at least to be recommended |
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For in-depth help, go to the Benefits & Work website, they have advisers on the forum and in-depth detail about how each question should be filled-in.
I'm sure they will be able to help you ![]() https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ |
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Check out the "help with your PIP claim" section on the attached link
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...nd-carers/pip/ |
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Check out the "help with your PIP claim" section on the attached link
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...nd-carers/pip/ and they thought it was simplified, no wonder people are struggling with the size of it.
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As someone else said go to Citizens Advice they will be able to help it put you in touch with somone that can.
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For in-depth help, go to the Benefits & Work website, they have advisers on the forum and in-depth detail about how each question should be filled-in.
I'm sure they will be able to help you ![]() https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ |
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That is very good and detailed but you'd need 2 months filling all the info in
and they thought it was simplified, no wonder people are struggling with the size of it.Quote:
As someone else said go to Citizens Advice they will be able to help it put you in touch with somone that can.
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There is lots of information on the internet. Slightly different but I did the equally challenging DLA form a few months ago and found loads of advice on what to put and how to word different sections. I got it so it obviously worked.
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Instead of me starting a new thread on this subject i'll tell you where i am upto on this process, to be honest after tonight i just feel like saying **** it i'll just live on £100 a week and not bother claiming it because i'm in two minds to just do that right now and just wish i never even mentioned this to my parents that i'm about to start this
I just don't know if my father is on a supporting side of me claiming this, the same goes for my step mother. It's been 12 years since i last worked because i got ill and tonight and the past 3 years i've had it thrown in my face especially from my step mother who says i have nothing wrong whatsoever. If that's the case then why am i on these stomach tablets, anti-depressants, pills for anxiety, pain killers for bits & pieces daily. I feel i am just going to bloody lose it with her before long and she thinks i'm a benefit scrounger. I'd been in Manchester for 2 or 3 hours today to look round the christmas markets and catch up with some friends working on them before it ends today. I pop in on my way home just for a drink last night to see if they were in there and was. The conversation was sort of friendly to begin with as i'm thinking going to Remploy (Apparently it's changing it's name to wise ability here) after christmas and ditch the job centre. It then got worse with my step mum slagging me off and i just could, not talk all night feeling like i was about to cry or totally lose it in weatherspoon. Christmas day it will all be lovey dovey no doubt and maybe boxing day but i just have that feeling something will not go right. The next couple of months are going to feel like hell starting and go through this process and i just feel now i can't tell them anything else about it. |
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im on DLA at the moment and havent had the change over to PIP yet, luckily my ESA assessment wasnt too bad, and they wernt even sure why i needed an assessment, hopefully PIP is as easy as that, but im sorry to hear about ur troubles
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For in-depth help, go to the Benefits & Work website, they have advisers on the forum and in-depth detail about how each question should be filled-in.
I'm sure they will be able to help you ![]() https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ Quote:
I agree with the above advice.
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OP seems to be creating lots of unnecessary barriers to making the claim for PIP; the stress of applying, complexity of the form, costs advice, approval of parents etc. It is of course his / her choice whether to do so but none of these perceived barriers need prevent an application being made.
There is plenty of good advice about how to get support and information about how to apply upthread. As I have said previously, Citizens Advice will complete the PIP2 form with you. It takes 2 hours. However you need to contact them as soon as you have the form or even as soon as you have called DWP to start the application because they will need time to arrange an appointment. The service is entirely free. If you do want to use the CA service there is good advice on their website about the sort of information you can collect to make filling in the PIP2 form more easy. |
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Join a help group on FB. To be honest seems like its the luck of the draw if you get it or not.
They also tell a ton of lies and twist things. https://www.facebook.com/groups/Esadla/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/faireratosassessments/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/ESAsurvivalguide/ |
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Just started this claim off, it's soo bloody scripted, not sure if this was a good idea when he asked did i want help filling it in from someone from the dwp as he said it's quite a lengthy form to do. I just feel letting them do that would go against me as i just don't trust them somehow or its me just been paranoid.
He then said 3 options what i want to claim under, was i hospitalized under severe depression? |
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Just started this claim off, it's soo bloody scripted, not sure if this was a good idea when he asked did i want help filling it in from someone from the dwp as he said it's quite a lengthy form to do. I just feel letting them do that would go against me as i just don't trust them somehow or its me just been paranoid.
He then said 3 options what i want to claim under, was i hospitalized under severe depression? Its fine getting someone to do the claim form as they fill loads in. Although would rather someone NOT from DWP .. its the face to face where the big lies are told. |
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Just started this claim off, it's soo bloody scripted, not sure if this was a good idea when he asked did i want help filling it in from someone from the dwp as he said it's quite a lengthy form to do. I just feel letting them do that would go against me as i just don't trust them somehow or its me just been paranoid.
He then said 3 options what i want to claim under, was i hospitalized under severe depression? |
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When i rang up he did say it could take about 15mins to go through the start, he wasn't far off as its just security checking. he sounded a little angry, paranoid to me on the phone but they are supposed to be pro advisers, i may get somebody else to help me with it if needed.
Got the text message on my phone to say the claim went ok, doesn't tell you the number though as it just says DWP |
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When i rang up he did say it could take about 15mins to go through the start, he wasn't far off as its just security checking. he sounded a little angry, paranoid to me on the phone but they are supposed to be pro advisers, i may get somebody else to help me with it if needed.
Got the text message on my phone to say the claim went ok, doesn't tell you the number though as it just says DWP |
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When i rang up he did say it could take about 15mins to go through the start, he wasn't far off as its just security checking. he sounded a little angry, paranoid to me on the phone but they are supposed to be pro advisers, i may get somebody else to help me with it if needed.
Got the text message on my phone to say the claim went ok, doesn't tell you the number though as it just says DWP They make it up as they go along. |
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Are you clear on what happens next?
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This group has advisors to offer help 24 hours a day.
They also have people who would come along to assessments with you. Disability & Benefits Support- Don't Go Alone. Facebook. They are very helpful, the group is run by disabled people, for disabled people. |
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Yes they said the pip2 form will arrive in the next 2 weeks, if it hasn't by the 3rd i have to tell them. he did say after getting the stuff back to them by the date due it could take upto 16 weeks for me to get a decision and if i need a f2f or not.
Make sure you have the details of your health conditions and medication to hand when you come to fill in the PIP2 form. The form is about how your medical conditions and the medication you take affects you in your daily life and not the condition itself. If you have "good and bad" days, it is often suggested that you keep a diary to help you. There is a diary template here ... https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...ting-evidence/ |
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and they thought it was simplified, no wonder people are struggling with the size of it.