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#26 |
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I can't believe that i am nearly in tears here tonight, i feel that i just can't say anything without someone being judgemental saying you should be working and get pro-active. I just feel that who do i believe the most and can trust. one minute my step mum says she will support me but thinks i should be working and not claiming any support.
My dad knows i suffer some mental issues and anxiety but i just feel i want to have a real go at my step mother and say keep out of my life and not know you anymore. i went out tonight to see if i could cheer myself up around friends but felt embarrassed what was on my mind the last few days. I had until the 28th to decide if i want to try for PIP or not for bad anxiety, feeling depressed, sarcoid, IBS. I felt even guilty today up today to put the claim in and felt the advisor was being a bit stroppy reading the script out and questioning am i under another surname (i felt that was rude and upset me) is the dwp spying on me or something? The claim was accepted and he told me i will receive the pip2 form in a couple of weeks. i don't know if i was right in saying should i get somebody from the dwp to help me fill it in? I feel i can;t trust anyone even in my closest friends and family because they are so judgemental, it's now christmas but i am feeling in pieced and to scared to get more help to get through this the next 2 or 3 months (even i feel my doctor won't support me with something and feel really scared at how the outcome could turn out Why do i feel guilty everyday i wake up and think people are judging me? i think 2017 is going to be horrible xx ![]()
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I can't believe that i am nearly in tears here tonight, i feel that i just can't say anything without someone being judgemental saying you should be working and get pro-active. I just feel that who do i believe the most and can trust. one minute my step mum says she will support me but thinks i should be working and not claiming any support.
My dad knows i suffer some mental issues and anxiety but i just feel i want to have a real go at my step mother and say keep out of my life and not know you anymore. i went out tonight to see if i could cheer myself up around friends but felt embarrassed what was on my mind the last few days. I had until the 28th to decide if i want to try for PIP or not for bad anxiety, feeling depressed, sarcoid, IBS. I felt even guilty today up today to put the claim in and felt the advisor was being a bit stroppy reading the script out and questioning am i under another surname (i felt that was rude and upset me) is the dwp spying on me or something? The claim was accepted and he told me i will receive the pip2 form in a couple of weeks. i don't know if i was right in saying should i get somebody from the dwp to help me fill it in? I feel i can;t trust anyone even in my closest friends and family because they are so judgemental, it's now christmas but i am feeling in pieced and to scared to get more help to get through this the next 2 or 3 months (even i feel my doctor won't support me with something and feel really scared at how the outcome could turn out Why do i feel guilty everyday i wake up and think people are judging me? i think 2017 is going to be horrible xx ![]() ![]() The whole system has been going towards making the poor and vulnerable in society look like scroungers, bad people who are cheating the system even those who are on disability and know just how hard it is to get through all the barriers believe these silly programmes that show people living it up on benefits, if it fools them ,imagine how it fools those who are not having to jump through hoops to get less and less money to live on every year. When the government with the media's help make it look like we are all capable of working then who can blame those who actually believe the crap? Government are fiddling the system running their home and 2nd homes claiming big expenses giving themselves huge pay rises and yet the vulnerable are the ones who are having the finger pointed at. Why people are failing for this without standing up and screaming that is unfair I have no idea, yes a lot are being brainwashed but even so. Ive noticed now they are pushing the idea that we don't need to retire we can work till we drop. The whole system is broken we have no money for anything unless its something the government want .. We always have the money for a war ( it makes the rich richer) and for their own needs but people are having to go to food banks for Christ sake.. others think its only non working people who are having to do that but a lot of families where two parents are working low paid jobs are also having to hold out the begging bowl .. How is that right? Sorry for the rant but people need to see what is going on. So many vulnerable people have died due to the system. More and more homeless everyday, as well as a war on the disabled, there is a war on the homeless. take job and home security away and we get more and more homeless every year . If those who are doing OK at the moment do not wake up and see what is going on , then they will soon be the ones being targeted more job losses, more homelessness and no one left to speak up for you.
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So rang up just before christmas and got confirmation of the claim going in ok, today at 8am i get a text message saying the form is on it's way, have these bastards no shame and that eager to get back in the office and persecute the sick more?
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So rang up just before christmas and got confirmation of the claim going in ok, today at 8am i get a text message saying the form is on it's way, have these bastards no shame and that eager to get back in the office and persecute the sick more?
![]() i know from personal experience these claims can be very stressful but i'd much prefer to know whats going on than for them not to tell me anything i found the text messages useful and if anything helped with the stress as i knew i wasn't being forgotten about |
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They're automated text messages.
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So rang up just before christmas and got confirmation of the claim going in ok, today at 8am i get a text message saying the form is on it's way, have these bastards no shame and that eager to get back in the office and persecute the sick more?
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When I was waiting for my claim to be processed, a text message was the first indication that my claim was successful
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I think it's quite a simple question actually - do you need any help taking tablets or any other therapies you require on a regular basis - not those that are carried out in hospital or some other specific clinic. If i remember rightly when I filled it in for my husband I simply put that I had to manage all his medication for him as otherwise he would forget.
But I would suggest you talk through your specific scenario with either the helpline or CAB. It won't be awful it will just make sure you put the right thing on the form. Perhaps you could see the form as a helpful means to an end that is slightly tedious but obviously necessary - rather than an awful obstacle designed to drag you down. We had a positive & simple experience with it so it's not always a nightmare! I think you'll feel better when you've just done it! |
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Look I appreciate that you have problems with this process although I am still not entirely sure why but suggesting that by processing your claim for benefits, the DWP is "persecuting the sick" is bizarre.
Maybe most people would not expect anything of that nature to be intruding on their life at 8am on boxing day. They should handle people with MHP differently to those who who don't have MHP |
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Maybe most people would not expect anything of that nature to be intruding on their life at 8am on boxing day.
They should handle people with MHP differently to those who who don't have MHP |
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Maybe most people would not expect anything of that nature to be intruding on their life at 8am on boxing day.
They should handle people with MHP differently to those who who don't have MHP |
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The "intrusion" was in response to a request from the OP. God forbid they actually agree to pay the benefit the vindictive b***ards.
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Except they've only said they're sending out the form. Not paying the benefit.
I am of course being sarcastic but the overwhelming insistence of the OP to look for reasons not to make the claim and particularly victimisation by the DWP is worrying especially as the hard part of the process hasn't even begun yet. There are lots of reasons to criticise the DWP but responding to claimants requests and keeping them informed aren't two of them. |
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I know but it's simply part of their overall evil plan, the twisted psychopaths.
I am of course being sarcastic but the overwhelming insistence of the OP to look for reasons not to make the claim and particularly victimisation by the DWP is worrying especially as the hard part of the process hasn't even begun yet. There are lots of reasons to criticise the DWP but responding to claimants requests and keeping them informed aren't two of them. OP is in danger of the 'nightmare' scenario becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. |
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The "intrusion" was in response to a request from the OP. God forbid they actually agree to pay the benefit the vindictive b***ards.
Do you have MHP? if not then why reply to someone who has, as clearly you have no idea how the system affects these people.. If you do have MHP then think yourself lucky that the system does not terrify you and make you want to walk away from it and not bother and live on the streets or end it all. You have no idea what the OP is going through, yes they could be a little drama queen but then again they could be close to their limit, its OK for us we can post and walk away without a thought to how our little bit of advice will affect others. I think this advice forum is actually the worst one I have ever encountered . Seems like so many just post in here trying to ridicule those asking for ADVICE and SUPPORT So many seem not to know how to scroll past something clearly not for them. |
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Do you have MHP? if not then why reply to someone who has, as clearly you have no idea how the system affects these people.. If you do have MHP then think yourself lucky that the system does not terrify you and make you want to walk away from it and not bother and live on the streets or end it all. You have no idea what the OP is going through, yes they could be a little drama queen but then again they could be close to their limit, its OK for us we can post and walk away without a thought to how our little bit of advice will affect others.
I think this advice forum is actually the worst one I have ever encountered . Seems like so many just post in here trying to ridicule those asking for ADVICE and SUPPORT So many seem not to know how to scroll past something clearly not for them. However, it is important to be realistic about what sort of help an internet forum can provide. This forum provides good advice and practical information and the OP has been given plenty on how to get help to negotiate the PIP claims process, not least I would venture to suggest, by me. Of course the forum cannot force people to take that advice. However, neither this forum nor any other forum nor the practical sources of assistance that have been recommended to the OP can be a substitute for professional, medical expertise required to deal with the mental health issues that are apparently making even thinking about engaging with the system such a trial. |
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The last 2 days i have felt very down, low, not happy. Even my own dad said i did. I'm expecting the form to probably drop through tomorrow but i will not be entertaining it until new year has gone and get help if i can then.
I did try to pluck up the courage to see if my own dad would write a support letter but he said i don't know what to write as i'm a bit too close and don't the the extent of what you feel and i'd better to ask my GP to do one. What worries me is will he? i'm scared to ask and not be happy what the answer could be if i did.
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The last 2 days i have felt very down, low, not happy. Even my own dad said i did. I'm expecting the form to probably drop through tomorrow but i will not be entertaining it until new year has gone and get help if i can then.
I did try to pluck up the courage to see if my own dad would write a support letter but he said i don't know what to write as i'm a bit too close and don't the the extent of what you feel and i'd better to ask my GP to do one. What worries me is will he? i'm scared to ask and not be happy what the answer could be if i did. ![]() Why are you scared to ask your GP and worried about the answer? What do you fear he/she might say? I can post some specific advice about gathering evidence to support your claim but you said that you didn't want to think about it yet so would you prefer I didn't? |
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So rang up just before christmas and got confirmation of the claim going in ok, today at 8am i get a text message saying the form is on it's way, have these bastards no shame and that eager to get back in the office and persecute the sick more?
![]() What you can do is look through all the advice contained in the guides below, fill in the PIP form, enclose medical back up from GP/consultant (plus any relevant information from Google Scholar or PubMed about your condition). If you need any help on filling out the PIP form then by all means seek advice from any one of the nearest Citizens Advice Bureau, local council benefits advice unit, community law centre, relevant charity or claimants' union depending upon what is available locally. If you need to go to appeal on a benefits decision then I very strongly suggest getting help from one of those organisations. Guides on the PIP form for physical and mental health issues: https://www.actionforme.org.uk/uploa...sheet-2016.pdf https://www.leicester.gov.uk/media/1...e-payments.pdf https://www.mind.org.uk/media/197255...les4-final.pdf https://www.rethink.org/resources/p/...ce-payment-pip |
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