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Old 09-12-2016, 08:19
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I don't remember rich people leaving the country when income tax was 60% under Thatcher.
Me neither. It was the birth of inventive accounting.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:21
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Has it occurred to anyone, that Self is quite deliberately rude ? He writes for a living, gets loadsa feedback, knows exactly the effect of what he says ........... The thing he's NOT trying to do is win votes ..........
The only effect he had on many last night was to come across as a prize prat .
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:54
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Not really. Plenty of people seem happy to speculate that Trump will somehow contrive to start WW3 with Russia; therefore Britain would inevitably be involved in such a conflict.

In which case, which section of the population would be most likely to stand up and volunteer to defend this country? Serious question.
More than you think.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:05
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It's all wine and roses until Vlad says Niet. Then Trumpy boy goes off in the huff.
Vlad then makes a deal that is good for Russia, complements Trump.
Trump is flatterred. Vlad laughs.
Still he's better than LePen, Wilders, Robinson; Farage, Nuttal etc.
That just about sums it up.

Putn is smarter than the others, but disagree that he's better. ( they're all awful)
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:10
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The only effect he had on many last night was to come across as a prize prat .
Belligerent, bitter and rather vindictive. Spent all night goading Farage with bug eyed rants.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:12
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It is a serious subject but it would have been going off topic

Sarah Wollaston (Conservative Chair of the Health Select Committee)...Nice lady
Richard Burgon (Labour Shadow Justice Secretary)..Demonstrated the poor quality of the opposition
Nigel Farage (Former Leader of UKIP)....The star
Will Self (Novelist)....Smug, arrogant rude bore
Louise Mensch (Author & Commentator)...Not too bad at all
Really? What did he say that was so outstanding?
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:18
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The only effect he had on many last night was to come across as a prize prat .
Belligerent, bitter and rather vindictive. Spent all night goading Farage with bug eyed rants.
Gracious me - hard to tell who's bitter. Both of you still criticising Will Self, yet you're coming across worse than him.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:33
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He mentioned the EU, Ukraine and Putin twice tonight and explained why we should stay on friendly terms with Putin.
And he's right. One of the few things I agree with Farage about. Mensch's anti-Putin tirade was way over the top, full of lies and exaggeration.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:36
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And he's right. One of the few things I agree with Farage about. Mensch's anti-Putin tirade was way over the top, full of lies and exaggeration.
I wouldn't expect you to think otherwise. We've always had opposing views.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:39
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Gracious me - hard to tell who's bitter. Both of you still criticising Will Self, yet you're coming across worse than him.
Yes, but he's the one invited onto a national tv politics show in order to debate - and not just to confront another panelist.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:41
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Gracious me - hard to tell who's bitter. Both of you still criticising Will Self, yet you're coming across worse than him.
Is he exempt from criticism? Odd, really, because one of the many insults Farage regularly has hurled his way is that he's a 'pub bore', but that's exactly how Self came across last night.

The sort of bloke you end up getting stuck talking to at a party, but just can't escape from. Tedious little man.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:55
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Yes, but he's the one invited onto a national tv politics show in order to debate - and not just to confront another panelist.
He answered the questions raised, some in an amusing way - even Farage could see the funny side.
What did you see that was confrontational?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:02
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Is he exempt from criticism? Odd, really, because one of the many insults Farage regularly has hurled his way is that he's a 'pub bore', but that's exactly how Self came across last night.

The sort of bloke you end up getting stuck talking to at a party, but just can't escape from. Tedious little man.
So tell me what did Self 'hurl' at Farage to upset you so much, yet Farage took it in good humour? From what I saw last night, there were moments when they both agreed with each other.

As for insults, Farage has done his fair share of insulting people and nations without apologising. He gives as good as he gets.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:06
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So tell me what did Self 'hurl' at Farage to upset you so much, yet Farage took it in good humour? From what I saw last night there were moments when they both agreed with each other.
I didn't say he hurled anything at Farage and I'm not remotely upset about anything. I'm merely registering my disdain for Will Self as he's a crashing bore.

Your imagination is going into overdrive.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:07
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I thought Will Self was spot on
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:13
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I didn't say he hurled anything at Farage and I'm not remotely upset about anything. I'm merely registering my disdain for Will Self as he's a crashing bore.

Your imagination is going into overdrive.
Ok then, what did he say that was boring?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:15
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I thought Will Self was spot on
I agree.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:46
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And so do I.

He has an 'unfortunate' style of delivery but nevertheless I agree wholeheartedly with what he says,
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:03
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Not really. Plenty of people seem happy to speculate that Trump will somehow contrive to start WW3 with Russia; therefore Britain would inevitably be involved in such a conflict.

In which case, which section of the population would be most likely to stand up and volunteer to defend this country? Serious question.
Are you serious? WW3 would mean nuclear annihilation. There won't be any need for anyone to volunteer to defend the country. People always think of the next world war as if it is going to be like the last. But in any case, as has been pointed out, Hilary Clinton would have been far more likely to oppose Russia than Trump.
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:57
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The only effect he had on many last night was to come across as a prize prat .

Totally agree.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:06
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He answered the questions raised, some in an amusing way - even Farage could see the funny side.
What did you see that was confrontational?
Yes, I particularly like the contempt he had for McDonalds workers/jobs. Very telling for a north London socialist.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:14
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Will Self seems to be a horrible human being. I had been listeing to a serise he has had on radio four latley and he seems a very angry, thin skinned individual. Plus that voice.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:20
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Will Self seems to be a horrible human being. I had been listeing to a serise he has had on radio four latley and he seems a very angry, thin skinned individual. Plus that voice.
Everything about Self makes me want to vomit. A loathsome individual.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:51
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Yes, I particularly like the contempt he had for McDonalds workers/jobs. Very telling for a north London socialist.
Well he had a point about Mconald's. It's horrible junk food and who wants more of it?

His comment had nothing to do with people working there. Honestly, some people are really touchy

And what does where he lives got anything to do with it?
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Old 09-12-2016, 14:43
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I think Farage is right about Russia. The whole west needs a completely new approach. Clinton would have been a disaster, at least Trump might make a more positive change.
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