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Old 09-12-2016, 14:41
roger_50
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Should we also be proud that all that was "success" was founded on the blood, sweat and tears of countless millions of slaves we stole, sold, and killed for profit and power?

No, I do think that when you evoke the colonial days (especially with a map of Africa), you're talking about a very dark part of our history that we should be ashamed of.
You've got to take a balanced view though. The fact the British Empire filled the void and utilised the methods of the time is neither something to be 'proud' of or 'ashamed' of.

And along side oppression came an almost endless list of benefits which could be argued built the foundations of the modern world. I prefer to look at it from both angles.

But.... as a name for a beverage, it was woefully misjudged. A lot of young people don't tend to have pragmatic views; they nearly always feel passionate about stuff like this, and therefore it's a terrible word to put on a drink that will be consumed mostly by that group.

Morally, the word is fine for a product. From a business point of view, terrible.
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Old 09-12-2016, 18:28
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Noticeable when Alana & Jessica didn't get up to greet her back to the house and yet ran up to Grainne.

Plus noticed when Grainne and her came out of the BR not much seen of her "cuddling" Trishna.
Frances was hugging Courtney at that point though
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Old 09-12-2016, 18:44
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Frances was hugging Courtney at that point though
IIRC she came into the room, they stayed seated, Courtney stood up...when Grainne appeared they (Alana and Jessica) yelled out and got up from the sofas and sped past Frances and hugged Grainne. Frances then puts her arms out to hug Courtney. Link

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