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Old 08-12-2016, 23:57
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First of all, no Godwin.

If it was 1933 and you were in Germany and poor, the mark was worth nothing. The country was humiliated by Verailles.

Can you remove your historical blinders and admit you would follow it?
I would have, all those parades etc.
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Old 09-12-2016, 00:09
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It would have been difficult. I would have been arrested and in the first Camps.
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Old 09-12-2016, 00:17
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To me that's the bit that gets glossed over far too often, Hitler had a huge number of people supporting him and his objectives. And in 1933 why wouldn't they, i think i might have done, nationalism was somewhat different to now, especially in countries and times of little resource.

It's the latter years support i never quite understood, some people were still very happy to turn in jews to the authorities even as late as 1944, isnt that how Anne Frank was captured by the regime in Amsterdam near the end of the war?
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Old 09-12-2016, 00:19
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Join what?
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:58
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The Nazis presumably.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:18
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Me as I am now? I don't think so, I would have been put in a camp too if I was the same then as I am now. I have schizophrenia and would've been put in a camp with disabled people or shot / gassed. I'm not Jewish by the way, it's just my health that would've made me a target.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:28
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the masons ?

well, yes, they are a fine organisation.
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:25
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I've no idea. Let me think which huge popular movement was growing in Germany in 1933-38 which in hindsight was a terrible thing.

Methinks OP set the bar too high for a DS General Discussion thread
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Old 09-12-2016, 04:29
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I've no idea. Let me think which huge popular movement was growing in Germany in 1933-38 which in hindsight was a terrible thing.

Methinks OP set the bar too high for a DS General Discussion thread
the nazis set the bar very high, so that only very tall blond haired blue eyed people could get a drink.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:51
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Hitler came to power the year I was born. His influence on my life was quite significant.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:00
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i`ve never been one for going against what i think is right or caring how much of a minority that puts me in so i think it highly unlikely.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:19
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I'm not really a joiner so I would say no.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:24
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Maybe. I was always fascinated at how the Nazis quickly managed to establish their aesthetic in Germany, all the symbology, flags, uniforms, badges, miltary ranks etc etc
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:26
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Relevant.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:34
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Maybe. I was always fascinated at how the Nazis quickly managed to establish their aesthetic in Germany, all the symbology, flags, uniforms, badges, miltary ranks etc etc
That one is easy; from February 33 until the Blood Purge, Hitler intentionally let the SA off the leash in a period of prolonged pro-Nazi violence, just like Mao's Cultural Revolution. Houses and businesses not displaying the Swastika could be attacked, people not saluting it as the SA marched passed were beaten up etc. So it was indoctrinated into them by violence and intimidation, so much so that when Hitler at last clamped down on the SA people were GRATEFUL to him!!!
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:36
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the masons ?

well, yes, they are a fine organisation.
Also one of the first groups to be arrested by the Nazis along with Trade Union members, socialists and homosexuals!
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:49
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:02
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the nazis set the bar very high, so that only very tall blond haired blue eyed people could get a drink.
Hitler apparently was around 5 feet 8 or 9 which was average or slightly above, and he wasn't blonde, so how did he get a drink ?

He was given a soft-top VW Beetle as a 50th birthday present, but no drink ?
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:02
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First of all, no Godwin.

If it was 1933 and you were in Germany and poor, the mark was worth nothing. The country was humiliated by Verailles.

Can you remove your historical blinders and admit you would follow it?
I would have, all those parades etc.
Unless you lived and experienced that period of time in Germany, I don't know how you can possibly answer....most people I imagine would say no but they would be judging it by how they are now and what they know, rather than the reality of the situation at the time.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:07
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Don't be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the Nazi party !
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:12
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Quite possibly. Same as, born in a different time/place, I might well have supported slavery, colonialism, the class system etc.

Same as if I could live for another 100 years I would probably cringe at some of the things I support now.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:35
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We know that most people support all the things that fascists wish to do. Initially.

Eventually, when the reality is shown to be cruel/inhuman, there is a movement away.

In a democracy this usually means the fascists fall. So fascists make sure there is no democracy.
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Old 09-12-2016, 09:39
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If it meant either die a slow or painful death or join them, I'd join them.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:03
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If it meant either die a slow or painful death or join them, I'd join them.
But then they say "Do you have a Pick-Axe handle and want to come out with us and smash a few heads?"

Do you agree?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:06
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But then they say "Do you have a Pick-Axe handle and want to come out with us and smash a few heads?"

Do you agree?
I've always wondered what it would feel like physically and emotionally to commit murder. Of course I'd never act on it, but going off that, I most likely would.
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