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1933 to 1938 do you join?
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MC_Satan
08-12-2016
First of all, no Godwin.

If it was 1933 and you were in Germany and poor, the mark was worth nothing. The country was humiliated by Verailles.

Can you remove your historical blinders and admit you would follow it?
I would have, all those parades etc.
RobinOfLoxley
09-12-2016
It would have been difficult. I would have been arrested and in the first Camps.
alfamale
09-12-2016
To me that's the bit that gets glossed over far too often, Hitler had a huge number of people supporting him and his objectives. And in 1933 why wouldn't they, i think i might have done, nationalism was somewhat different to now, especially in countries and times of little resource.

It's the latter years support i never quite understood, some people were still very happy to turn in jews to the authorities even as late as 1944, isnt that how Anne Frank was captured by the regime in Amsterdam near the end of the war?
barbeler
09-12-2016
Join what?
dodrade
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“Join what?”

The Nazis presumably.
Pink_Smurf
09-12-2016
Me as I am now? I don't think so, I would have been put in a camp too if I was the same then as I am now. I have schizophrenia and would've been put in a camp with disabled people or shot / gassed. I'm not Jewish by the way, it's just my health that would've made me a target.
Horace Wimp
09-12-2016
the masons ?

well, yes, they are a fine organisation.
alfamale
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“Join what?”

I've no idea. Let me think which huge popular movement was growing in Germany in 1933-38 which in hindsight was a terrible thing.

Methinks OP set the bar too high for a DS General Discussion thread
spiney2
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by alfamale:
“I've no idea. Let me think which huge popular movement was growing in Germany in 1933-38 which in hindsight was a terrible thing.

Methinks OP set the bar too high for a DS General Discussion thread”

the nazis set the bar very high, so that only very tall blond haired blue eyed people could get a drink.
himerus
09-12-2016
Hitler came to power the year I was born. His influence on my life was quite significant.
annette kurten
09-12-2016
i`ve never been one for going against what i think is right or caring how much of a minority that puts me in so i think it highly unlikely.
Girth
09-12-2016
I'm not really a joiner so I would say no.
eggchen
09-12-2016
Maybe. I was always fascinated at how the Nazis quickly managed to establish their aesthetic in Germany, all the symbology, flags, uniforms, badges, miltary ranks etc etc
Girth
09-12-2016
Relevant.
phylo_roadking
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“Maybe. I was always fascinated at how the Nazis quickly managed to establish their aesthetic in Germany, all the symbology, flags, uniforms, badges, miltary ranks etc etc”

That one is easy; from February 33 until the Blood Purge, Hitler intentionally let the SA off the leash in a period of prolonged pro-Nazi violence, just like Mao's Cultural Revolution. Houses and businesses not displaying the Swastika could be attacked, people not saluting it as the SA marched passed were beaten up etc. So it was indoctrinated into them by violence and intimidation, so much so that when Hitler at last clamped down on the SA people were GRATEFUL to him!!!
theid
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by Horace Wimp:
“the masons ?

well, yes, they are a fine organisation.”

Also one of the first groups to be arrested by the Nazis along with Trade Union members, socialists and homosexuals!
dee123
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“Join what?”

The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B.
Phil Dodd
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“the nazis set the bar very high, so that only very tall blond haired blue eyed people could get a drink.”

Hitler apparently was around 5 feet 8 or 9 which was average or slightly above, and he wasn't blonde, so how did he get a drink ?

He was given a soft-top VW Beetle as a 50th birthday present, but no drink ?
dearmrman
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“First of all, no Godwin.

If it was 1933 and you were in Germany and poor, the mark was worth nothing. The country was humiliated by Verailles.

Can you remove your historical blinders and admit you would follow it?
I would have, all those parades etc.”

Unless you lived and experienced that period of time in Germany, I don't know how you can possibly answer....most people I imagine would say no but they would be judging it by how they are now and what they know, rather than the reality of the situation at the time.
dreadnought
09-12-2016
Don't be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the Nazi party !
Arcana
09-12-2016
Quite possibly. Same as, born in a different time/place, I might well have supported slavery, colonialism, the class system etc.

Same as if I could live for another 100 years I would probably cringe at some of the things I support now.
Tassium
09-12-2016
We know that most people support all the things that fascists wish to do. Initially.

Eventually, when the reality is shown to be cruel/inhuman, there is a movement away.

In a democracy this usually means the fascists fall. So fascists make sure there is no democracy.
Ben_Copland
09-12-2016
If it meant either die a slow or painful death or join them, I'd join them.
RobinOfLoxley
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ben_Copland:
“If it meant either die a slow or painful death or join them, I'd join them.”

But then they say "Do you have a Pick-Axe handle and want to come out with us and smash a few heads?"

Do you agree?
Ben_Copland
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“But then they say "Do you have a Pick-Axe handle and want to come out with us and smash a few heads?"

Do you agree?”

I've always wondered what it would feel like physically and emotionally to commit murder. Of course I'd never act on it, but going off that, I most likely would.
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