I phone voted and had problems with both ore and louise's numbers engaged for quite a while
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Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“four in a row”
“four in a row”
Thank u....absolutely bloody disgraceful.
that in itself says all you need to know. I bet even next year he won't get a duffer
Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“Do you know which of Georgia and Katie's dances were their lowest scoring? I confess to not checking on Katie, but I thought I had looked up Georgia. What other reason could there be for choosing her rumba which was low scored mostly because it barely had any rumba in it, so was very unsuitable for judge's choice (there being no way to improve it without re-choreographing, which I believe they in part did).”
“Do you know which of Georgia and Katie's dances were their lowest scoring? I confess to not checking on Katie, but I thought I had looked up Georgia. What other reason could there be for choosing her rumba which was low scored mostly because it barely had any rumba in it, so was very unsuitable for judge's choice (there being no way to improve it without re-choreographing, which I believe they in part did).”
Georgia's lowest was her waltz (25). They probably chose the rumba (27) instead because, as you said, Len had an almighty strop at Giovanni over the choreography not having enough basic rumba in it. So he changed it and they got better marks.
Katie's lowest was her cha cha (20). They probably chose the quickstep (27) instead because she made a hoofing great error in it and it was something she could "correct".
I think the choices are made based on the show's ability to make a story out of it. If they can't find one they just default to the first dance the contestant did.
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“I agree. They scored Joanne for the AT not Ore who just stood and was danced around.
Having said that Ore was not the worst dancer tonight imho Louise was (And I like both Louise and Kevin normally)
Danny and Claudia were the best. Danny edged it for me.”
“I agree. They scored Joanne for the AT not Ore who just stood and was danced around.
Having said that Ore was not the worst dancer tonight imho Louise was (And I like both Louise and Kevin normally)
Danny and Claudia were the best. Danny edged it for me.”
I think Louise tango was actually better content wise than came across on screen. Awful costume that was so distracting and poor music. It's not the first time this series Claudia has suffered with same problem. Louise second dance was weak and it was always going to be! Same with Claudia Rumba as you need a bit of life experience!
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Thank u....absolutely bloody disgraceful. that in itself says all you need to know. I bet even next year he won't get a duffer”
“Thank u....absolutely bloody disgraceful.
that in itself says all you need to know. I bet even next year he won't get a duffer”
That Kevin and his partners have proven incredibly popular with the public?
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“I think Laura is saying they knew she would be fine with the public so didn't need to place her highly. A tied last place was good enough”
“I think Laura is saying they knew she would be fine with the public so didn't need to place her highly. A tied last place was good enough”
The judges simply don't know that.
Saying, that they made sure she was in the finale just isn't true.
I thought tonight would've been the night the 'Judges want Kevin to win!!' wouldn't appear, tbh. How wrong was I.
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“I am really surprised that Ore was top of the leader board - I thought Claudia did much better, and Danny's American Smooth was magical - even though I don't warm to him there is no doubt he is a wonderful dancer. I think the results have been manipulated and it was hinted right at the beginning of the series that Cliftons were being favoured. Don't get me wrong - I think Joanne is brilliant as is Kevin. However, I don't think Louise was as good as Danny tonight - in fact I thought she was the weakest dancer, and Ore is the judge's pet. I so wanted Claudia to do well - she is a little fizzer and she danced her socks off tonight. Absolutely the wrong decision - but as long as she keeps on dancing. I thought her quickstep was absolutely brilliant. Shame on those judges.”
“I am really surprised that Ore was top of the leader board - I thought Claudia did much better, and Danny's American Smooth was magical - even though I don't warm to him there is no doubt he is a wonderful dancer. I think the results have been manipulated and it was hinted right at the beginning of the series that Cliftons were being favoured. Don't get me wrong - I think Joanne is brilliant as is Kevin. However, I don't think Louise was as good as Danny tonight - in fact I thought she was the weakest dancer, and Ore is the judge's pet. I so wanted Claudia to do well - she is a little fizzer and she danced her socks off tonight. Absolutely the wrong decision - but as long as she keeps on dancing. I thought her quickstep was absolutely brilliant. Shame on those judges.
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I agree, I thought Louise was the weakest dancer tonight and Claudia should have gone through and Louise out!
I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“That Kevin and his partners have proven incredibly popular with the public?”
“That Kevin and his partners have proven incredibly popular with the public?”
He has to be jammy to get four decent consecutive partners in the first place, which he has! That's the point
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“This makes absolutely no sense. The judges did nothing to make sure Louise would be in the finale, they did the exact opposite. They gave her lowest points, she was at the bottom of the leaderboard. The judges have no clue how the viewers will vote, either.”
“This makes absolutely no sense. The judges did nothing to make sure Louise would be in the finale, they did the exact opposite. They gave her lowest points, she was at the bottom of the leaderboard. The judges have no clue how the viewers will vote, either.”
My personal opinion is Strictly is very tightly managed - the judge's are guided by the producers on which storyline's they'd like to take root and which to let go of and comment/mark accordingly.
Maybe I'm becoming weary of reality television and am judging Strictly on the basis of the rest of it but that's my opinion. Louise and Kevin were joint bottom fairly but, at the same time, it looks like their vote was strong enough to see them through. Whether Ore's vote has picked up in recent weeks is questionable - maybe it has - but to me his position on the leaderboard suggests they were trying to protect him (very much like Danny recently); it's possible his vote may have caught them out slightly. It's possible they placed Danny in danger because they knew his public vote was low but they could bounce him into the final; bouncing Ore through against any of them would have been a challenge if they'd placed him in a dangerous position.
As I said, maybe I've become wearily cynical but I think Strictly is far more stage managed than many think.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
Ppl should vote with their remotes; I won't be watching the final, but I hope Danny scuppers the fixers' plans.
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“I hope they don't pick their worst dances. I want an entertaining final with great dancing.”
“I hope they don't pick their worst dances. I want an entertaining final with great dancing.”
I think the whole point is that they will perform these "low scoring" dances better this time around, having several more weeks of experience and practice to draw upon.
They're not actually expected to dance the dance to the same standard which earned them the lower marks - they're expected to improve upon them.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
Despite my comments above... Ore beat Danny in the public vote. We can speak about manipulation and 'guiding' the show but it's as simple as that - Ore received more support than Danny this evening.
Admittedly, he may not have acquired as many as Claudia. That's something we don't know.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Despite my comments above... Ore beat Danny in the public vote. We can speak about manipulation and 'guiding' the show but it's as simple as that - Ore received more support than Danny this evening.
Admittedly, he may not have acquired as many as Claudia. That's something we don't know.”
“Despite my comments above... Ore beat Danny in the public vote. We can speak about manipulation and 'guiding' the show but it's as simple as that - Ore received more support than Danny this evening.
Admittedly, he may not have acquired as many as Claudia. That's something we don't know.”
Lens grand finale is going to plan
Originally Posted by edy10:
“This is an insult to Abbey; Abbey actually had some personalty however annoying some people found it; she actually had some personality and actually injected them into her routines . Not only are Louise routines BLAND but she is just so boring personality wise IMO; Just meh..Even caroline who I did not care for actually had some personality. I want Danny to win but at this point I would rather see Ore win before Louise. Ideal finish for me :
Danny
Ore
Louise”
“This is an insult to Abbey; Abbey actually had some personalty however annoying some people found it; she actually had some personality and actually injected them into her routines . Not only are Louise routines BLAND but she is just so boring personality wise IMO; Just meh..Even caroline who I did not care for actually had some personality. I want Danny to win but at this point I would rather see Ore win before Louise. Ideal finish for me :
Danny
Ore
Louise”
Whereas I find Louise charming and Danny a personality-free zone whose dances don't 'grab' me. Ore 'gets on my wick' a bit, too.
Different strokes and all that.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“My personal opinion is Strictly is very tightly managed - the judge's are guided by the producers on which storyline's they'd like to take root and which to let go of and comment/mark accordingly.
Maybe I'm becoming weary of reality television and am judging Strictly on the basis of the rest of it but that's my opinion. Louise and Kevin were joint bottom fairly but, at the same time, it looks like their vote was strong enough to see them through. Whether Ore's vote has picked up in recent weeks is questionable - maybe it has - but to me his position on the leaderboard suggests they were trying to protect him (very much like Danny recently); it's possible his vote may have caught them out slightly. It's possible they placed Danny in danger because they knew his public vote was low but they could bounce him into the final; bouncing Ore through against any of them would have been a challenge if they'd placed him in a dangerous position.
As I said, maybe I've become wearily cynical but I think Strictly is far more stage managed than many think.”
“My personal opinion is Strictly is very tightly managed - the judge's are guided by the producers on which storyline's they'd like to take root and which to let go of and comment/mark accordingly.
Maybe I'm becoming weary of reality television and am judging Strictly on the basis of the rest of it but that's my opinion. Louise and Kevin were joint bottom fairly but, at the same time, it looks like their vote was strong enough to see them through. Whether Ore's vote has picked up in recent weeks is questionable - maybe it has - but to me his position on the leaderboard suggests they were trying to protect him (very much like Danny recently); it's possible his vote may have caught them out slightly. It's possible they placed Danny in danger because they knew his public vote was low but they could bounce him into the final; bouncing Ore through against any of them would have been a challenge if they'd placed him in a dangerous position.
As I said, maybe I've become wearily cynical but I think Strictly is far more stage managed than many think.”
That all could be true. The original post just said, that 'They'' did everything to ensure Louise was in the finale. Which just isn't true. She was at the bottom of the leaderboard. High risk of being in the DO.
To me it seems like there's a lot of twisting and reaching happening to still continue to claim, that the judges are wanting Kevin to win, and are aking an effort to make sure it happens.
If Louise and Kevin win, does that mean Kevin will get a duffer next year? 
It's not so much the result I'm annoyed with (I knew Claudia would be eliminated this week) it's Ore's overmarking. But, for all we know, he may have received a bounce from last week's result. I don't know, I just don't think he deserved to top the leaderboard and felt his dances were marked far too high in order to "protect" him. But that's a personal opinion.
As Fudd says, the show is definitely stage managed. You can just tell.
DS will go into meltdown tomorrow night at this result!
It's not so much the result I'm annoyed with (I knew Claudia would be eliminated this week) it's Ore's overmarking. But, for all we know, he may have received a bounce from last week's result. I don't know, I just don't think he deserved to top the leaderboard and felt his dances were marked far too high in order to "protect" him. But that's a personal opinion.
As Fudd says, the show is definitely stage managed. You can just tell.
DS will go into meltdown tomorrow night at this result!
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“There's a great deal to be said for not caring who wins.”
“There's a great deal to be said for not caring who wins.
”
If Claudia had got through I wouldn't have minded as I've voted for all three at various times. I now want either Danny or Louise to win. I'll be in hotel in Southampton waiting to go on my Christmas / New Year hols. I've said we'll have to have a picnic in the room as I'm not going to dinner!
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
Will that draw attention away from me getting hammered in the press 😂
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“If Louise and Kevin win, does that mean Kevin will get a duffer next year?
It's not so much the result I'm annoyed with (I knew Claudia would be eliminated this week) it's Ore's overmarking. But, for all we know, he may have received a bounce from last week's result. I don't know, I just don't think he deserved to top the leaderboard and felt his dances were marked far too high in order to "protect" him. But that's a personal opinion.
As Fudd says, the show is definitely stage managed. You can just tell.
DS will go into meltdown tomorrow night at this result!”
“If Louise and Kevin win, does that mean Kevin will get a duffer next year?
It's not so much the result I'm annoyed with (I knew Claudia would be eliminated this week) it's Ore's overmarking. But, for all we know, he may have received a bounce from last week's result. I don't know, I just don't think he deserved to top the leaderboard and felt his dances were marked far too high in order to "protect" him. But that's a personal opinion.
As Fudd says, the show is definitely stage managed. You can just tell.
DS will go into meltdown tomorrow night at this result!”
Popcorn on tomorrows shopping list
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I agree, I thought Louise was the weakest dancer tonight and Claudia should have gone through and Louise out!”
“I agree, I thought Louise was the weakest dancer tonight and Claudia should have gone through and Louise out!”
Louise did a very good Tango (albeit the costumes were a little distracting) and Claudia did a very good QS. Then Louise did a pretty mediocre Samba while Claudia did a mediocre Rhumba. So I feel it was pretty fair.
But the public decided so in no way was it unfair.
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“If Claudia had got through I wouldn't have minded as I've voted for all three at various times. I now want either Danny or Louise to win. I'll be in hotel in Southampton waiting to go on my Christmas / New Year hols. I've said we'll have to have a picnic in the room as I'm not going to dinner!”
“If Claudia had got through I wouldn't have minded as I've voted for all three at various times. I now want either Danny or Louise to win. I'll be in hotel in Southampton waiting to go on my Christmas / New Year hols. I've said we'll have to have a picnic in the room as I'm not going to dinner!”
I won't say that I don't have preferences - although that varies from week to week - but I don't have actual favourites. Regardless of who wins, they have all provided fantastic entertainment, so I think there's little to complain about.
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