Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Popcorn on tomorrows shopping list
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“Popcorn on tomorrows shopping list
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Not sure the supermarkets have enough popcorn 😂
*SPOILER* Semi Final 🏆 Please keep to this thread until Sunday Show has aired
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Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
“I hope the Judges get hammered in the Press over the next few Days which I suspect they will do for IMO the blatant manipulation of tonight's result.”
Judges have escaped a bigger backlash that loomed. Assuming Danny had gone through choosing Louise / Ore / Claudia in a dance off would have been carnage.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“He has to be jammy to get four decent consecutive partners in the first place, which he has! That's the point”
“He has to be jammy to get four decent consecutive partners in the first place, which he has! That's the point”
Susanna was a complete unknown. And Kellie was hardly a shoe in. More luck and good teaching than anything.
The only 'guaranteed' duffer in this year's female celebs was Lesley and she was obviously going to Anton.
Originally Posted by davethorp:
“Will that draw attention away from me getting hammered in the press 😂”
“Will that draw attention away from me getting hammered in the press 😂”
I'm intrigued by this... What have you been getting up to?
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Danny v Claudia
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Kevin was not to know how good any of his partners would end up being and the judges were not to know either.
Not all relatively younger celebs make good dancers.
He has been fortunate with how good his partners have been but he still has to get them to dance well and attract the votes.
Never in a dance off with Susanna or Frankie or Louise.
Was in a dance off with Kellie.
This is not solely a result of judges scores.
The public must have had their role to play too.
And for all the accusations of judge bias or favouritism (which can't be proven) surely the same accusations can be made against the public. Everybody has their favourites amongst the public either on the night, over the series or both.
Not all relatively younger celebs make good dancers.
He has been fortunate with how good his partners have been but he still has to get them to dance well and attract the votes.
Never in a dance off with Susanna or Frankie or Louise.
Was in a dance off with Kellie.
This is not solely a result of judges scores.
The public must have had their role to play too.
And for all the accusations of judge bias or favouritism (which can't be proven) surely the same accusations can be made against the public. Everybody has their favourites amongst the public either on the night, over the series or both.
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“My mum thinks Danny's arrogant but then she voted for ruddy Brexit and effing UKIP so I fundamentally disagree with her more important issues.”
“My mum thinks Danny's arrogant but then she voted for ruddy Brexit and effing UKIP so I fundamentally disagree with her more important issues.”
I voted for Brexit but not UKIP, and I don't mind Danny, and think Louise is a bit bland. Everybody can have different opinions on different things.
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“I'm intrigued by this... What have you been getting up to?”
“I'm intrigued by this... What have you been getting up to?
”
I got a lot of stick last weekend from certain elements of the press for posting the Christmas Special Spoiler to my site.
To my knowledge articles ran on the websites of:
The Star
The Mirror
The Sun
The Daily Mail
OK Magazine
Now Magazine
UniLad
Many of which took the slant that I was a festive grinch out to ruin Christmas by posting the results before broadcast. Although ironically after the mirror labelled me as such they posted numerous upcoming festive plot lines for many soaps
UniLad took a slightly more positive approach by saying I'd posted the result to spare people having to watch it. Plus were the only ones to post the results themselves 😂
I wonder whether part of Danny's issue was a backlash because of his imperfect Tango last week, a bit like Claudia seemed to lose momentum after her Jive marks at Blackpool. If so I wonder whether Ore will suffer from this next week?
I'll be interesting to see how Karen addresses this on Tuesday. She's very good at dripping poison and pushing certain couples as part of Choreogrpahy Corner, adding another aspect to undermarked/overmarked.
I'll be interesting to see how Karen addresses this on Tuesday. She's very good at dripping poison and pushing certain couples as part of Choreogrpahy Corner, adding another aspect to undermarked/overmarked.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“First series where everyone has been in the bottom 2?”
“First series where everyone has been in the bottom 2?”
Louise and Kevin haven't been in the bottom two.
Originally Posted by sambadan:
“Kevin was not to know how good any of his partners would end up being and the judges were not to know either.
Not all relatively younger celebs make good dancers.
He has been fortunate with how good his partners have been but he still has to get them to dance well and attract the votes.
Never in a dance off with Susanna or Frankie or Louise.
Was in a dance off with Kellie.
This is not solely a result of judges scores.
The public must have had their role to play too.
And for all the accusations of judge bias or favouritism (which can't be proven) surely the same accusations can be made against the public. Everybody has their favourites amongst the public either on the night, over the series or both.”
“Kevin was not to know how good any of his partners would end up being and the judges were not to know either.
Not all relatively younger celebs make good dancers.
He has been fortunate with how good his partners have been but he still has to get them to dance well and attract the votes.
Never in a dance off with Susanna or Frankie or Louise.
Was in a dance off with Kellie.
This is not solely a result of judges scores.
The public must have had their role to play too.
And for all the accusations of judge bias or favouritism (which can't be proven) surely the same accusations can be made against the public. Everybody has their favourites amongst the public either on the night, over the series or both.”
Agreed. The only young dancer he's had is Frankie. Would Laura have progressed further with Kevin? Would Louise have not built her confidence with Giovanni?
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“My personal opinion is Strictly is very tightly managed - the judge's are guided by the producers on which storyline's they'd like to take root and which to let go of and comment/mark accordingly.
Maybe I'm becoming weary of reality television and am judging Strictly on the basis of the rest of it but that's my opinion. Louise and Kevin were joint bottom fairly but, at the same time, it looks like their vote was strong enough to see them through. Whether Ore's vote has picked up in recent weeks is questionable - maybe it has - but to me his position on the leaderboard suggests they were trying to protect him (very much like Danny recently); it's possible his vote may have caught them out slightly. It's possible they placed Danny in danger because they knew his public vote was low but they could bounce him into the final; bouncing Ore through against any of them would have been a challenge if they'd placed him in a dangerous position.
As I said, maybe I've become wearily cynical but I think Strictly is far more stage managed than many think.”
“My personal opinion is Strictly is very tightly managed - the judge's are guided by the producers on which storyline's they'd like to take root and which to let go of and comment/mark accordingly.
Maybe I'm becoming weary of reality television and am judging Strictly on the basis of the rest of it but that's my opinion. Louise and Kevin were joint bottom fairly but, at the same time, it looks like their vote was strong enough to see them through. Whether Ore's vote has picked up in recent weeks is questionable - maybe it has - but to me his position on the leaderboard suggests they were trying to protect him (very much like Danny recently); it's possible his vote may have caught them out slightly. It's possible they placed Danny in danger because they knew his public vote was low but they could bounce him into the final; bouncing Ore through against any of them would have been a challenge if they'd placed him in a dangerous position.
As I said, maybe I've become wearily cynical but I think Strictly is far more stage managed than many think.”
Have to agree with you. I think you're right. But then I work in media and am probably as cynical as you!
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Louise and Kevin haven't been in the bottom two.”
“Louise and Kevin haven't been in the bottom two.
”
Ooh had a feeling they were 3 weeks back! Woops!
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Agreed. The only young dancer he's had is Frankie. Would Laura have progressed further with Kevin? Would Louise have not built her confidence with Giovanni?”
“Agreed. The only young dancer he's had is Frankie. Would Laura have progressed further with Kevin? Would Louise have not built her confidence with Giovanni?”
She would certainly have been a lot more relaxed and had more fun with him!
I'll defend Kevin insofar as Susannah was neither young poppet nor stage school ringah. However, all the rest were obviously going to be able to dance.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I wonder whether part of Danny's issue was a backlash because of his imperfect Tango last week, a bit like Claudia seemed to lose momentum after her Jive marks at Blackpool. If so I wonder whether Ore will suffer from this next week?
I'll be interesting to see how Karen addresses this on Tuesday. She's very good at dripping poison and pushing certain couples as part of Choreogrpahy Corner, adding another aspect to undermarked/overmarked.”
“I wonder whether part of Danny's issue was a backlash because of his imperfect Tango last week, a bit like Claudia seemed to lose momentum after her Jive marks at Blackpool. If so I wonder whether Ore will suffer from this next week?
I'll be interesting to see how Karen addresses this on Tuesday. She's very good at dripping poison and pushing certain couples as part of Choreogrpahy Corner, adding another aspect to undermarked/overmarked.”
I'm not an avid huge Strictly fan but my Dad watches every week (I tend to now actually) and he keeps saying Danny doesn't deserve to win because he has had dance lessons (even though I'm assuming the others have had it too in some form). Do you think that's why? Are people put off by the fact he's always been good?
I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“Is it possible that Ore had a low public vote but was top of the leaderboard so it made him safe?”
“Is it possible that Ore had a low public vote but was top of the leaderboard so it made him safe?”
He definitely wasn't bottom. Could've been any of the other three positions. Danny was definitely bottom or second bottom. Louise was definitely top or second. They both got more votes than Danny.
Originally Posted by davethorp:
“I got a lot of stick last weekend from certain elements of the press for posting the Christmas Special Spoiler to my site.
To my knowledge articles ran on the websites of:
The Star
The Mirror
The Sun
The Daily Mail
OK Magazine
Now Magazine
UniLad
Many of which took the slant that I was a festive grinch out to ruin Christmas by posting the results before broadcast. Although ironically after the mirror labelled me as such they posted numerous upcoming festive plot lines for many soaps
UniLad took a slightly more positive approach by saying I'd posted the result to spare people having to watch it. Plus were the only ones to post the results themselves 😂”
“I got a lot of stick last weekend from certain elements of the press for posting the Christmas Special Spoiler to my site.
To my knowledge articles ran on the websites of:
The Star
The Mirror
The Sun
The Daily Mail
OK Magazine
Now Magazine
UniLad
Many of which took the slant that I was a festive grinch out to ruin Christmas by posting the results before broadcast. Although ironically after the mirror labelled me as such they posted numerous upcoming festive plot lines for many soaps
UniLad took a slightly more positive approach by saying I'd posted the result to spare people having to watch it. Plus were the only ones to post the results themselves 😂”
Aaaaah! That was you was it?
You little scamp!
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
Well the "hook" now is that he's neither Ore nor Louise. And strangely enough, it might be enough to see him through.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
I like Danny and Oti because they have a lovely partnership. Plus he delivers each week. He isn't dramatic, he just gets on with working hard. Also, Danny always shows that he values Oti. He just seems very down to earth. I don't care if he's been good since day one because I have loved every single one of his performances. Him and Oti have made this year for me.
It's a shame that the Strictly audience are against celebrities who are very talented.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
Not that it's his fault.... but he was wearing some very nasty-looking trousers tonight. Both pairs were pretty horrible.
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“Is it possible that Ore had a low public vote but was top of the leaderboard so it made him safe?”
“Is it possible that Ore had a low public vote but was top of the leaderboard so it made him safe?”
He could have been third going off the result:
Final Overall Leaderboard
1. Ore and Joanne: 38 + 39 = 77 (4 points)
2. Danny and Oti: 37 + 39 = 76 (3 points)
3. Claudia and AJ: 35 + 38 = 73 (2 points)
=. Louise and Kevin: 37 + 36 = 73 (2 points)
Ore 4+2 = 6
Danny 3+1 = 4
Claudia 2+3 = 5
Louise 2+4 = 6
All we know is he must have pulled in more votes than Danny and Louise must have pulled in more votes than Danny and Claudia.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I'm not an avid huge Strictly fan but my Dad watches every week (I tend to now actually) and he keeps saying Danny doesn't deserve to win because he has had dance lessons (even though I'm assuming the others have had it too in some form). Do you think that's why? Are people put off by the fact he's always been good?”
“I'm not an avid huge Strictly fan but my Dad watches every week (I tend to now actually) and he keeps saying Danny doesn't deserve to win because he has had dance lessons (even though I'm assuming the others have had it too in some form). Do you think that's why? Are people put off by the fact he's always been good?”
Maybe though so has Louise as she was rescued from joint bottom tonight.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
“I still truly think Danny just doesn't inspire the rabid fanbase voting that the other three did for various reasons tonight. He doesn't really have anything for people to latch on to. He's a very good dancer but there's no story, no journey, no struggle. He's got a fairly 'average' personality in that he's fine but doesn't stand out and he has a nice but unremarkable partnership with Oti. Where's the hook? Where's the thing you root for? Yes, he's a great dancer but that's not enough to really galvanise people when he needs it.”
Many people feel that about Louise and Kevin and yet they survived from joint bottom. What exactly got them votes tonight? Where's the struggle for them, beyond two forgettable routines, one hindered by music, one hindered by a lack of latin talent? Where's the story? Is the journey of confidence really that great for her? Is the partnership with Kevin that brilliant? Possibly so. Possibly so.
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