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*SPOILER* Semi Final 🏆 Please keep to this thread until Sunday Show has aired
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Aurora13
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“To use your own argument back at you maybe he has akways been low because people have always assumed he would be safe.”

I think that's right. When you see voting figures on shows like DOI the votes go in for bottom of leaderboard in early weeks. Danny has topped board this year so folks have got used to voting for others. Funnily enough Louise being third might have saved her by bringing in the vote.
Monaogg
11-12-2016
Danny v Claudia


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Ms Babs
11-12-2016
Just can't bring myself to vote for Danny, he is too experienced a dancer to be on strictly.
Nakatomi
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“People had trouble voting for all the contestants.Says so way back on here.

Danny will win but I don't think the public dislikes the Cliftons half as much as you want them to.”

Put it this way, out of my friends who watch it (a mix of people who do ballroom dancing and some who can't dance at all) precisely one person likes the Cliftons and even then, only Karen. They come off as fake and arrogant to a lot of people. Karen Clifton's comments to Ola did not do the Clifton brand any favours, that's for sure.
claire2281
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by bar of soap:
“The clarity of the judges manipulation to get their chosen 3 into the final would have been laughable if it wasn't so unfair.”

Yeah their cunning plan of putting their 'favourite' Louise at the bottom so she'd have to rely on public vote. Cunning!

Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“IMHO this series has ended up as a total farce of manipulation and dreadful, ridiculous scoring. I have enjoyed every previous series (bar a few little niggles) but this one has turned into a complete travesty.

The whole format needs a rethink for next year, otherwise it stands the risk of dropping massively in the ratings.”

And so was said every year since Zoe Ball got to the final.
Nakatomi
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Just can't bring myself to vote for Danny, he is too experienced a dancer to be on strictly.”

He has been in one musical. A musical which didn't have much dancing in it anyway. Surely you should be more irritated by former 'So You Think You Can Dance?' judge Louise?

No matter how much dance training Danny has or hasn't had, there are things he does that you just have to have a natural ability for. You can't teach someone how to be perfectly fluid and precise with their movements. He is a natural at dancing and because of it he works 10x harder so that he isn't stuck at one level like Louise.
DingDong08
11-12-2016
First time I've ever decided to venture into the spoiler thread prior to a results show before, but curiosity got the better of me. Genuinely shocked by the result though, mainly just because social media is usually such an accurate measure as to who the public are voting for, but it was so completely wrong this time round that it's actually quite baffling. A shame Claudia's gone after her wonderful Quickstep though.

I'm also almost certain Danny falling in the dance-off is because many fans thought him safe - sure, he didn't get the votes this week, but he clearly has a larger fanbase than previous ringahs (e.g. Denise, Natalie) which makes me highly doubt he's been struggling in votes all along. As someone else said, his whole scenario heavily parallels Ray Quinn from DOI, who was second on the leaderboard and fell in the bottom two in the semi-final (because his fans knew they didn't need to vote), before going on to win.
bar of soap
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“Yes, I think planks of wood are routinely appointed to the role of Prima Ballerina by the Royal Ballet. ”

She was undoubtedly an elegant ballerina more than worthy of the Prima prefix (and yes I did see her at the ROH.) Her carriage is divine ... but ... her training doesn't lend itself to the requirements of ballroom or latin dancing.

Strictly my opinion.
Domestos
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Put it this way, out of my friends who watch it (a mix of people who do ballroom dancing and some who can't dance at all) precisely one person likes the Cliftons and even then, only Karen. They come off as fake and arrogant to a lot of people. Karen Clifton's comments to Ola did not do the Clifton brand any favours, that's for sure.”

I would imagine Ola may well have deserved it. Retiring flower she is not.

I could say the same in reverse though. Again it comes down to opinions. As portrayed on the board but I do believe there is a lot less who find them fake and arrogant, if not they simply wouldn't do well at all regardless of their partner.

Last year I couldn't bear the Kevin/Kellie combo so I voted for others. I suspect that is how most would react.
collaw
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by bar of soap:
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As for Darcy, words fail me. Has anyone else noticed that when the judges make their entrance she looks like a plank of wood compared to the men. Claudia could teach her a thing or two on how to move.”

Darcy ,as an ex prima ballerina she will know a whole lot more about movement then bar of soap
Ms Babs
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“All three finalists are doing the tour, coincidence???”

Why does everything have to be a fix? Ever thought that all three were asked to join the tour because they are so popular with the public?
inothernews
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“This makes absolutely no sense. The judges did nothing to make sure Louise would be in the finale, they did the exact opposite. They gave her lowest points, she was at the bottom of the leaderboard. The judges have no clue how the viewers will vote, either.”

If you believe the conspiracy theorists (I'm not sure if I do) then Louise in 3rd was a masterstroke.

Because the producers presumably know what percentage of votes Louise gets each week, and therefore knew she could safely be placed 3rd and would end up 1st or 2nd once viewer votes were added. Danny in dance off- No problem, because no one could argue with him being saved over Claudia. And- to make sure it is Claudia who goes (because she can't do tour) make sure Ore is voted first by judges. You then get yourself a Danny Claudia dance off.
Domestos
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“If you believe the conspiracy theorists (I'm not sure if I do) then Louise in 3rd was a masterstroke.

Because the producers presumably know what percentage of votes Louise gets each week, and therefore knew she could safely be placed 3rd and would end up 1st or 2nd once viewer votes were added. Danny in dance off- No problem, because no one could argue with him being saved over Claudia. And- to make sure it is Claudia who goes (because she can't do tour) make sure Ore is voted first by judges. You then get yourself a Danny Claudia dance off.”

That would mean the producers gave the judges their scores. I don't buy into that. Sure they seem to get it wrong at times, over mark, undermark, tell some off, heap praise on others but not that.
robbleona
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Danny AS
Claudia QS

So we get to see the two best (IMHO) routines of the night again. ❤️”

This was the worse-case scenario bottom two for me...
I thought claudia's number was up last night, being lumbered with the rumba and anti-remarks from the judges...
But I didn't see Danny in the bottom two. How did ore suddenly get voted for?
My vote goes to Danny now as I can't stick the other two couples. But IT SEEMS THE INTERNET POLLS ARE TRUE...louise is ahead, getting the over 40's momsy vote as well as the 'kevin from grimsby' bods .
claire2281
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“He has been in one musical. A musical which didn't have much dancing in it anyway.”

Not according to the audition advert for the ensemble which Danny was a part of.
bar of soap
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Yeah their cunning plan of putting their 'favourite' Louise at the bottom so she'd have to rely on public vote. Cunning! ”

Joint bottom with Claudia - knowing full well that if she landed in the bottom two they'd save her.

My understanding is that Claudia can't do the tour, might this have influenced the judges determination to ensure she didn't win? Imagine a tour without the winner!
Monkseal
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“That would mean the producers gave the judges their scores. I don't buy into that. Sure they seem to get it wrong at times, over mark, undermark, tell some off, heap praise on others but not that.”

It would also mean they'd have to be able to rely on Ore getting more votes than Danny, which seems unlikely.
collaw
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Not according to the audition advert for the ensemble which Danny was a part of.”

as for Stage dancing we all know how Len just loves it ( it might get on his wick)

we are talking ballroom and Latin how much of that was in Wicked?
bar of soap
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Why does everything have to be a fix? Ever thought that all three were asked to join the tour because they are so popular with the public?”

And you think Claudia wasn't asked?
vibbles
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Not according to the audition advert for the ensemble which Danny was a part of.”

agree with this
lots of selective memory going on
robbleona
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Why does everything have to be a fix? Ever thought that all three were asked to join the tour because they are so popular with the public?”

ore's been bottom two twice, danny once...thats as many, or more times than judge rinder or ed!!

The public voting last night COULD have been 1.louise, 2.claudia, 3.ore, 4.danny.
This would STILL have put claudia in the DO.
Monaogg
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“It would also mean they'd have to be able to rely on Ore getting more votes than Danny, which seems unlikely.”

Not necessarily, by having him at the top of the leaderboard they could easily justify saving Ore over Claudia.
bar of soap
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“Darcy ,as an ex prima ballerina she will know a whole lot more about movement then bar of soap”

I frequent the ballet regularly.

Just watch and as I said strictly my opinion!
Sarah777
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by bar of soap:
“And you think Claudia wasn't asked?”

I think it can only help, if you're available for their tour.
Skyrah
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“He has been in one musical. A musical which didn't have much dancing in it anyway. Surely you should be more irritated by former 'So You Think You Can Dance?' judge Louise?

No matter how much dance training Danny has or hasn't had, there are things he does that you just have to have a natural ability for. You can't teach someone how to be perfectly fluid and precise with their movements. He is a natural at dancing and because of it he works 10x harder so that he isn't stuck at one level like Louise.”

Actually Danny has been in at least two musicals.
Les Miserables for 10 weeks.
Wicked for 21 Months.
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