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Old 09-12-2016, 10:03
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Did they die of shame?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:04
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Which makes 2020 interesting.

Come on May, get that hard Brexit lined up so we can all have a good laugh.

This is no different to any other democratic process. People vote against things (and parties), not for them. The leave campaigners had this behind them before the vote; in the coming years the backlash will be against them. It's inevitable.

The problem is the remain lot can't get this simple truth through their thick skulls, and seem determined to keep the population against them rather than letting nature take its course.
Most who voted Remain have accepted the result and are not trying to overturn it. How many times does this have to be said?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:04
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Which makes 2020 interesting.

Come on May, get that hard Brexit lined up so we can all have a good laugh.

This is no different to any other democratic process. People vote against things (and parties), not for them. The leave campaigners had this behind them before the vote; in the coming years the backlash will be against them. It's inevitable.

The problem is the remain lot can't get this simple truth through their thick skulls, and seem determined to keep the population against them rather than letting nature take its course.
Who you gonna vote for in 2020 - Lib (used to be) Democrats or Labour (haha)?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:05
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So is the suggestion that over 50's be denied the vote, over 60's, over 70's? what?

Certain groups keep babbling on about the way the older demographic have caused brexit, but do they conclude that the democratic vote be taken away from certain age groups?

Sorry, but I don't see the point in all this.
A lot seem to think that the vote should be taken away from anyone who doesn't vote the way they think they should. Or at least just ignore said votes.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:07
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It would also be wrong to assume that support for Brexit is on the wane because of a poll. A lot were wrong before the referendum. If we've learnt nothing else lately, it's surely that we can't trust polls. If we could we'd have voted remain, had a hung parliament and Clinton would be heading for the White House.
Of course, if it were just one poll. It's the downward trend which is significant.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:08
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An even bigger share of those who voted for us to stay in the Common Market in 1975 are dead.

So what.

If people's voting patterns didn't change as they get old the Tories would have won so many elections. Many people who vote Labour in their 20s vote Tory in their 60s.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:10
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Who you gonna vote for in 2020 - Lib (used to be) Democrats or Labour (haha)?
Certainly not UKIP or the Tories if the whole thing goes down the pan.

I want the same thing you do (so-called hard Brexit), but for different reasons. I want to give the Leavers enough fuel to slam themselves into the wall.

At which point the backlash will be very hard indeed.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:10
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We know that young/old tend to a viewpoint that is often widly opposite and somewhat detached from the mainstream.
But they are still welcome to partake of democracy.

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After any vote people have doubts, it's normal. It doesn't mean they would vote any other way if the thing was re-run.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:11
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An even bigger share of those who voted for us to stay in the Common Market in 1975 are dead.

So what.

If people's voting patterns didn't change as they get older the Tories would not have won so many elections. Many people who vote Labour in their 20s vote Tory in their 60s.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:12
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The independent has lost all sense of reason over the EU vote, they have no integrity left at all.
Their absurd article makes ridiculous assumptions, the reality is they have no idea who voted which way and how people would vote in a new referendum.
Maybe everyone who voted for brexit should wear some sort of badge to indentify themselves - a yellow star would seem to be the most appropriate.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:15
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Maybe everyone who voted for brexit should wear some sort of badge to indentify themselves - a yellow star would seem to be the most appropriate.
A pointy cap with a big D on the front would be more appropriate.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:21
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Oh I'm not sure they've got there yet. The bedroom doors will really be slamming when we get to A50.
I might launch a campaign for Brexiters to change their wills, and we can also start this Christmas by 'forgetting' to put the £20 notes in cards.
To really wind us Brexiters up you could put some Euros instead.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:22
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A pointy cap with a big D on the front would be more appropriate.
Ha, brilliant! Very funny indeed.

By the way, did this foolproof, cast-iron, 100% accurate study reveal how many remain voters have died since the referendum?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:27
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."

If the vote happened today it would have 52 - 48 for remain.
If the vote happened today it would have leave win by a bigger majority.
https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...result-7463341

Also of note:

"The British Election Study found that 6 per cent of Leave voters regretted their vote, compared to 1 per cent of Remain voters."
The best your link can come up with is
Old people have died and young people have grown old enough to vote.
And back in 2016-06-24 to 2016-07-04 there was one bit of research that had 6% of leave voters feeling some regret. In the immediate aftermath of the referendum with the GBP and the FTSE plummeting and the mass media declaring the end of the world, hate crimes against immigrants, and the PM resigning.

Why have the independent not commissioned any new polls on how people would vote today. Is it because the predictions of doom that the remain campaign relied on have so far fail to materialize? Is it because the polls would not show what they want? Is it because even the Independent realize deep down that pollsters have been repeatedly discredit by getting it repeatedly wrong.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:27
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The problem is the remain lot can't get this simple truth through their thick skulls, and seem determined to keep the population against them rather than letting nature take its course.
I guess that us Remainers don't have the Lemming-like approach of the Leavers .....
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:28
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"Oh why won't those people who have a differing point of view just hurry up and die so I can get what I want"

Sinister stuff.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:29
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."
Equally, that same generation would have had to live with the consequences of a decision to remain in the European Union, even though they didn't actually vote for it. Frankly, they got off lightly. Being out is by far the lesser of the two evils.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:30
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."

If the vote happened today it would have 52 - 48 for remain.

https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...result-7463341


Also of note:

"The British Election Study found that 6 per cent of Leave voters regretted their vote, compared to 1 per cent of Remain voters."
So what? Adults vote in local and general elections and their children re impacted every time they so do.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:31
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Ha, brilliant! Very funny indeed.

By the way, did this foolproof, cast-iron, 100% accurate study reveal how many remain voters have died since the referendum?
Um yes actually it does. I can only assume you are commenting without actuallly reading it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:31
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Ha, brilliant! Very funny indeed.

By the way, did this foolproof, cast-iron, 100% accurate study reveal how many remain voters have died since the referendum?
Yes. It's in the chart in the article.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:33
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Um yes actually it does. I can only assume you are commenting without actuallly reading it.
No it guesses.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:34
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Yes. It's in the chart in the article.
So it is. All pretty desperate stuff though, isn't it. The Independent is utterly shameless these days.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:35
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The more the losers whinge and squeel about us leaving and vent their spleen on anyone and everyone who voted leave the more I like it.

It shows it really has got to them and the best of it is there is fcuk all they can do about it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:36
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Ha, brilliant! Very funny indeed.

By the way, did this foolproof, cast-iron, 100% accurate study reveal how many remain voters have died since the referendum?
It's not even a study, it's what an architect on Twitter reckons.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:37
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If people's voting patterns didn't change as they get older the Tories would not have won so many elections. Many people who vote Labour in their 20s vote Tory in their 60s.
There's a quote oft used by politicians and statesmen going back centuries that goes something like: If you're not a liberal [for which read left leaning] when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.

(The ages and political parties change according to the time it was said in. I believe the above is attributed to Churchill, although there's no evidence he actually said it.)
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