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Old 09-12-2016, 10:41
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."

If the vote happened today it would have 52 - 48 for remain.

https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...result-7463341


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"The British Election Study found that 6 per cent of Leave voters regretted their vote, compared to 1 per cent of Remain voters."
120,000 remainers are by the law of averages also dead ,SHOCKER!
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:44
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Certainly not UKIP or the Tories if the whole thing goes down the pan.

I want the same thing you do (so-called hard Brexit), but for different reasons. I want to give the Leavers enough fuel to slam themselves into the wall.

At which point the backlash will be very hard indeed.
So the logical result of your plans is that you want to entrust the future of the country to Corbyn?

Explain to me how that will be good for the country.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:45
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LOL. Bremainers are a joke that just keeps on giving amusement even when it is in poor taste.
All of us? If one person thinks different this and other statements lumping everyone who voted in a particular way together are blatant lies

Let me spell it out
Not all who voted Brexit think the same
Not all who voted Remain think the same
We are allowed as far as I am aware to have different thoughts
The tone of debate would be better if people attacked the ball (i.e. the issues) rather than anyone who just happens to disagree with them most of whom are just getting on with their lives and have little time for the hyperbole and mud slinging from both sides
This is NOT a game. The result of the referendum and the negotiations will affect us all for years to come and we will probably not know for better or worse for several years yet and even then we will not know what would have happened with an alternative outcome
Wise People acknowledge that they do not have perfect knowledge especially of the future
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:47
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There is no doubt support for brexit is dying every minute of every day. The young and healthy didn't want brexit, and they should not have to suffer the consequences when those who supported it are already dying off.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:51
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There is no doubt support for brexit is dying every minute of every day. The young and healthy didn't want brexit, and they should not have to suffer the consequences when those who supported it are already dying off.
Frankly surprised you've not died of embarrassment in the Politics forums TBH.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:51
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There's a quote oft used by politicians and statesmen going back centuries that goes something like: If you're not a liberal [for which read left leaning] when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.

(The ages and political parties change according to the time it was said in. I believe the above is attributed to Churchill, although there's no evidence he actually said it.)
I'm sure whoever said it was a Conservative.

So the logical result of your plans is that you want to entrust the future of the country to Corbyn?

Explain to me how that will be good for the country.
I think some remainers would prefer the country to fail spectacularly after Brexit, just to "prove" they were right. The good of the country and it's inhabitants don't come into it.

I know they are very much the minority among remainers, but they have a lack of humanity that I find chilling.

To consider the deaths of people merely in terms of a vote lost or gained rather than in terms of the loss of parents, grandparents and friends is surely slightly sociopathic?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:51
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The more the losers whinge and squeel about us leaving and vent their spleen on anyone and everyone who voted leave the more I like it.

It shows it really has got to them and the best of it is there is fcuk all they can do about it.
But that makes you just as bad as them.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:51
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There is no doubt support for brexit is dying every minute of every day. The young and healthy didn't want brexit, and they should not have to suffer the consequences when those who supported it are already dying off.
All of the young and healthy? or just a majority of them

What of the young and healthy who voted leave?
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:52
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There is no doubt support for brexit is dying every minute of every day. The young and healthy didn't want brexit, and they should not have to suffer the consequences when those who supported it are already dying off.
The general rule of thumb on these boards is to assume your posts are the direct opposite of the truth. Once again, you prove that rule to be correct. So well done.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:53
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120,000 remainers are by the law of averages also dead ,SHOCKER!
No, because Leavers tend to be older than Remainers. I think that was the point of the thread.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:54
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No, because Leavers tend to be older than Remainers. I think that was the point of the thread.
Exactly right.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:55
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All of the young and healthy? or just a majority of them

What of the young and healthy who voted leave?
Pretty much all. Very few young, healthy and mentally sound people voted for brexit.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:57
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Who knows in time the younger ones who voted to remain may well get older and wiser and realise their mistake.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:59
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There is no doubt support for brexit is dying every minute of every day. The young and healthy didn't want brexit, and they should not have to suffer the consequences when those who supported it are already dying off.
Unfortunately I disagree

I voted remain. I was and continue to be di9sappointed by the result and have many concerns about how it will turn out. I will certainly not be silenced from expressing these as we move forward

However, the time for arguing on the terms and about the validity of the referendum has long passed and we need to find ways to draw together rather than continue with the damaging tribalism and that involves listening and learning to respect alternative views from both sides
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:00
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I'm sure whoever said it was a Conservative.
Quite possibly, but conservative with a small c, as many people that the quote is (rightly or wrongly) attributed to were not politicians, but historians, academics, monarchs and statesmen.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:18
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."

If the vote happened today it would have 52 - 48 for remain.

https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...result-7463341


Also of note:

"The British Election Study found that 6 per cent of Leave voters regretted their vote, compared to 1 per cent of Remain voters."
Remain is down then from the polls before the referendum. The last Populus poll on 22 June put Remain at 55% and a 10% lead. Seems like in the polls at least support for Remain is decreasing.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:22
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Pretty much all. Very few young, healthy and mentally sound people voted for brexit.
Do you think that you come across as mentally sound on this forum?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:24
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I do find it a little disturbing that people are continuing to come out with things like this - as though there's some kind of great insightful point being made, is this 'do it again we might win this time' or 'old people should not vote' or 'ha ha serves them right they deserve to be dead'?

Maybe a list of people with those attitudes needs to be compiled by HMRC and the Probate Registry to ensure they don't get to inherit anything, ever, have to wear an 'if you are over 60 I think you should be dead' sandwich board and to ensure they are banned from voting once they themselves reach 60. And don't get free TV licences or bus passes.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:24
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Do you think that you come across as mentally sound on this forum?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:27
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Most of us already have.
About time some of you started having a dig at (for my first time) remoaners.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:29
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I do find it a little disturbing that people are continuing to come out with things like this - as though there's some kind of great insightful point being made, is this 'do it again we might win this time' or 'old people should not vote' or 'ha ha serves them right they deserve to be dead'?

Maybe a list of people with those attitudes needs to be compiled by HMRC and the Probate Registry to ensure they don't get to inherit anything, ever, have to wear an 'if you are over 60 I think you should be dead' sandwich board and to ensure they are banned from voting once they themselves reach 60. And don't get free TV licences or bus passes.
Agreed. A disturbing attitude not helped by the likes of Anna Soubry going around saying the elderly have "stolen the future" from the young without anyone challenging her.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:34
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"Much has been made of the fact that the generation which will live with the consequences of the decision to leave the European Union didn't actually vote for it."

If the vote happened today it would have 52 - 48 for remain.

https://www.indy100.com/article/brex...result-7463341


Also of note:

"The British Election Study found that 6 per cent of Leave voters regretted their vote, compared to 1 per cent of Remain voters."
How about searching this board and posting the polls which show that 75 - 80% of people want Brexit to be progressed?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:34
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Who knows in time the younger ones who voted to remain may well get older and wiser and realise their mistake.
The trouble is the younger voters know nothing different than being in the EU so they probably want the status quo. Older voters have seen the changes that have happened over the years and don't like what they see. Its not what we signed up for.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:37
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Could you let May know, as she seems unaware.
The only first-hand statement I've seen is yours that your company is on the wane.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:37
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How about searching this board and posting the polls which show that 75 - 80% of people want Brexit to be progressed?
We get it done and sorted and in perhaps 5-10 years we decide it was a bad idea and thus we have to rejoin, no veto's, the euro and german to be the main language and goose stepping to be how we walk
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