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Old 09-12-2016, 10:17
Gusto Brunt
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Grainne is an incredibly stupid woman who is getting more stupid and inept as the weeks pass.

With the greatest respect to Lord Sugar, I think if Grainne didn't look so professional in her appearance, she would have been fired weeks ago.

A case of presentation over substance.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:22
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Maybe she has a cracking business plan, because she totally deserved to be fired this week.
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Old 09-12-2016, 10:28
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Grainne is an incredibly stupid woman who is getting more stupid and inept as the weeks pass.

With the greatest respect to Lord Sugar, I think if Grainne didn't look so professional in her appearance, she would have been fired weeks ago.

A case of presentation over substance.
Maybe she has a cracking business plan, because she totally deserved to be fired this week.
I think you have both hit the nail on the head as to why she got off scot free last night - she holds herself (in the physical sense) very professionally and with poise and I'm guessing her business plan must be smoking.

But she did get away with murder - imagine if Karthik had performed in the same way
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:27
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I think her buisness plan is going to be terrible. There's always one every year who does well throught the show, but then has a dreadful business plan.

My business plan is a bank for crabs, lord sugar
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:43
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I think her buisness plan is going to be terrible. There's always one every year who does well throught the show, but then has a dreadful business plan.

My business plan is a bank for crabs, lord sugar
What exactly does 'doing well' have to do with Grainne??
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:47
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What exactly does 'doing well' have to do with Grainne??
I thought she had done reasonably well up until last night. She hasnt been spectacularly bad
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:55
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I think she should have gone, but Trishna shot herself in the foot with her perceived bad attitude. I think Lord Sugar is probably more wary of the candidates' personalities due to the issues he's had in the past with previous winners.
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:00
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She was VERY lucky not to be fired. Had this task been given one week earlier she would have gone like Dillon did.
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Old 09-12-2016, 13:00
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I think her buisness plan is going to be terrible. There's always one every year who does well throught the show, but then has a dreadful business plan.

My business plan is a bank for crabs, lord sugar
hahaha!

"that's a bladdy stupid.... are you 'avin' a larf?"

"alright Lord Sugar, plan B is a crèche for owls"
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Old 09-12-2016, 15:29
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After the phone debacle, she should've gone for that.
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Old 09-12-2016, 16:36
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I think she should have gone, but Trishna shot herself in the foot with her perceived bad attitude. I think Lord Sugar is probably more wary of the candidates' personalities due to the issues he's had in the past with previous winners.
This.

He probably has some Vietnam style flashbacks every time he catches glimpses of "Stella" in the candidates. Not to mention of course that now whoever wins The Apprentice has to be the face of their own company and so have to be extremely personable. LS probably feels a bit weary of giving a quarter of a million to someone who could be a bit on the prickly side when pressure rises.
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Old 09-12-2016, 18:14
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I thought she had done reasonably well up until last night. She hasnt been spectacularly bad
Apart from her inept performance "demonstrating" the Virtual Reality game...
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Old 09-12-2016, 18:15
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This.

He probably has some Vietnam style flashbacks every time he catches glimpses of "Stella" in the candidates. Not to mention of course that now whoever wins The Apprentice has to be the face of their own company and so have to be extremely personable. LS probably feels a bit weary of giving a quarter of a million to someone who could be a bit on the prickly side when pressure rises.
Trishna's personality was the single reason why she was fired. She had performed well until that
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Old 09-12-2016, 19:52
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I don't know she should've gone IMO, cant see her making the final 2 next Sunday
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Old 09-12-2016, 23:58
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This.

He probably has some Vietnam style flashbacks every time he catches glimpses of "Stella" in the candidates. Not to mention of course that now whoever wins The Apprentice has to be the face of their own company and so have to be extremely personable. LS probably feels a bit weary of giving a quarter of a million to someone who could be a bit on the prickly side when pressure rises.
He's totally inconsistent on that. How many times has he called on people to speak up loudly - when its going wrong and to stop it going wrong. - he even let Luisa take over from her PM?

Trishna had a dodgy bottle, a dull ,wrongheaded label , a dodgy name, and an unfulfilled product image by day two - plus a mothers ruin hangover. She then told her PM what had to be in the presentation from the market research, only to watch her forget to mention it. its not surprising if she's getting angry - because the product is sub par, and being badly presented.

Grainees defence is that she's put off by Trshna being angry or grumpy. So Trishna can't be moody, but Grainee being put off is fine. But Grainee's the one who just accepted any ideas that anyone comes out with, didn't follow up on Frances questioning the colour, or use her own experience with gin, , forgot her phone, and the need to communicate , forgot her own pitch, and her own market research, and claiming to be an experienced drinker, led her subteam into getting sozzled. Its difficult not to conclude she didn't think about anything either day, or, was so hung over, she couldn't.

Frances jumped on to Grainee's defence that she was put off by Trishna. But she was the one, who knew enough to query adding colour, who didn't push whatever she knew, didn't match the drink colour to the packaging , and stuck the wrong map on , if she had a choice of maps,.Her muck uips came before day two , when she was on her own.

Ironically, Sugar then repeated Trishna's assessment of both of the others. Grainee had just taken any ideas on offer, and done nothing well all day. Frances had mucked up her bit , and failed to make her voice heard when she spotted a problem - both on the colour and Grainee's muck ups. But he then sacked Trishna for reacting to that, and pushing colouring the gin - which was the only problem all day that resulted from a lack of knowledge of the product.
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:52
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In fairness the only person that came out with any credibility this week was Alana.

Grainne is a weak candidate and has been consistently poor every week, she can't sell, she can't pitch, she doesn't do ideas, she can't brand, she can't lead a team, has she any skill at all? (although if her BP is make-up then okay, her face is always on point).

I think the difference was Grainne not asking the distiller the right questions (like Alana straight up asking about colour). Trishna was already fixated on the colour, so as the so called expert because she drinks like a fish, Grainne should have known that gin doesn't look like a urine test, and could have nixed the idea. The biggest mistake though was the phone, which ironically may have saved her, because by not being involved in anything she could pass the blame around.
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Old 10-12-2016, 15:56
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Grainne is oddly disliked on this forum. Without fail, there's a thread after every episode saying she should have been fired, even when she's been on the winning team. She's not the best candidate left, but she's far from being "incredibly stupid".
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:02
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Grainne is oddly disliked on this forum. Without fail, there's a thread after every episode saying she should have been fired, even when she's been on the winning team. She's not the best candidate left, but she's far from being "incredibly stupid".
What's odd about it ?

She tells lies - she blames everyone other than herself - and as I have said before she would sell her own mother down the river.

Plus she is very poor all round.
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:09
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What's odd about it ?

She tells lies - she blames everyone other than herself - and as I have said before she would sell her own mother down the river.

Plus she is very poor all round.
Absolutely spot on and I think I didn't hear her even speak at all in the first few episodes, just sat there with a blank face, albeit beautifully made up.
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:14
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Grainne is oddly disliked on this forum. Without fail, there's a thread after every episode saying she should have been fired, even when she's been on the winning team. She's not the best candidate left, but she's far from being "incredibly stupid".
Oh please, she has no discernible skills, let alone business ones lacks commonsense and has failed 2 out of 2 times as project manager. I could maybe understand if she had any charisma on her side but that too is lacking. Do you expect peeps to make a special case for her and to gloss over all these shortcomings?
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:05
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Maybe LS fancies her ?
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:05
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Maybe she has a cracking business plan, because she totally deserved to be fired this week.
Normally I would agree with you that the only way for someone so completely inept to get through would be if they have an amazing business plan, but judging by the rest of the show this year it could actually go either way - the whole premise of the show seems to have been to show *just* how useless the candidates actually are, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one has been kept for the interview stage just because the researchers have found some massive flaw / lie that they can hit them with at the interviews. If that's the case, I'm hoping it's either Grainne or Courtney who gets hit with it...
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:09
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Grainees defence is that she's put off by Trshna being angry or grumpy. So Trishna can't be moody, but Grainee being put off is fine. But Grainee's the one who just accepted any ideas that anyone comes out with, didn't follow up on Frances questioning the colour, or use her own experience with gin, , forgot her phone, and the need to communicate , forgot her own pitch, and her own market research, and claiming to be an experienced drinker, led her subteam into getting sozzled. Its difficult not to conclude she didn't think about anything either day, or, was so hung over, she couldn't.
^This. What raised a massive warning flag to me wasn't that she didn't hear her phone ringing - who hasn't left their phone in another room at some point by mistake? (Fair enough, it's unacceptable in such an important situation, but still...) What flagged up for me was the fact that her not realising her phone was in the other room proves that she didn't try phoning Frances at any point to check on how she was getting on. Surely as PM she should have been checking in on the branding at some point!?!?
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:15
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She definitely should've gone ahead of Trishna.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:43
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She majorly messed up and should have been fired. If in a real life situation you had an important deadline to meet which required important information being put on a label and you tried to phone your boss 19 times for the info but your calls were not answered leading you to miss your deadline and it then transpired your boss had been getting drunk and not even had their phone on them .... it would surely result in the boss being fired and rightly so.

Laughable that the whole thing seemed to be brushed under the table and was seen as almost amusing?!
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