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Old 09-12-2016, 19:36
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^ Exactly. I see that pro-Kremlin stooges are abroad (in its wider sense) and are trying to deny Russian and Syrian atrocities and war crimes. For example, it really is OK if warplanes bomb childrens' hospitals and aid convoys so long as that bombing is done by Russian Air Force planes.
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Old 09-12-2016, 19:40
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^ Exactly. I see that pro-Kremlin stooges are abroad (in its wider sense) and are trying to deny Russian and Syrian atrocities and war crimes. For example, it really is OK if warplanes bomb childrens' hospitals and aid convoys so long as that bombing is done by Russian Air Force planes.
I see the pro-establishment stooges are still peddling baseless accusations against Russia.

Where is the evidence that the Russians are responsible for the bombings of childrens hospitals?
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Old 09-12-2016, 19:43
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I see the pro-establishment stooges are still peddling baseless accusations against Russia.

Where is the evidence that the Russians are responsible for the bombings of childrens hospitals?
It's pretty clear both sides have done these things
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Old 09-12-2016, 19:59
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I see the pro-establishment stooges are still peddling baseless accusations against Russia.

Where is the evidence that the Russians are responsible for the bombings of childrens hospitals?
If footage emerged showing Russian planes bombing the hospitals you would doubtless claim it was all special effects produced in Hollywood to make "Saint Putin" look like he wasn't the Messiah but a very naughty boy.
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:00
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If footage emerged showing Russian planes bombing the hospitals you would doubtless claim it was all special effects produced in Hollywood to make "Saint Putin" look like he wasn't the Messiah but a very naughty boy.
And you of course would automatically believe it to be true. No questions asked.

Therein lies the problem.
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:04
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And you of course would automatically believe it to be true. No questions asked.

Therein lies the problem.
And of course you would believe it to be false

Therein lies the problem
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:06
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I see the pro-establishment stooges are still peddling baseless accusations against Russia.

Where is the evidence that the Russians are responsible for the bombings of childrens hospitals?
How about the fact that eye witnesses to these vile attacks happen to identify the distinctive Sukhoi and Mikoyan Gurevich attack aircraft. Having been to airshows, they are easily distinguished from Western aircraft like F-16s, F-15s and F-18s.

Oh, and just for the record, Russia Today is nothing more than a shyte propaganda channel on behalf of the Kremlin. Reputable news channels like Al Jazeera, France 24 and Euronews do offer different viewpoints and they manage to combine that with high editorial and journalistic standards, i.e. completely unlike Russia Today.
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:06
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Much ado about two state broadcasters disagreeing.. Salient point-

Ofcom is not a fact finding tribunal and is not able or empowered, therefore, to establish the truth or otherwise of such allegations and to make findings of fact. Accordingly, it was not possible or appropriate for Ofcom to attempt to prove or disprove the allegations made about the BBC in the Programme. Similarly, Ofcom had no statutory jurisdiction to assess the accuracy and impartiality of the BBC Programmes
So the ruling ended up being about whether there was some 'massive public investigation'. Ofcom didn't rule if the Bbc's 'news' had been sexed up or not because the Bbc is self-policing. Transcripts do however show the way the interview was edited to focus on chemical weapons though.
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:10
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How about the fact that eye witnesses to these vile attacks happen to identify the distinctive Sukhoi and Mikoyan Gurevich attack aircraft.
Strange they didn't manage to get any pictures. And eventually after some footage was produced, it showed special Russian bombs that managed to leave cardboard boxes undamaged.

Reputable news channels like Al Jazeera, France 24 and Euronews do offer different viewpoints and they manage to combine that with high editorial and journalistic standards, i.e. completely unlike Russia Today.
So why does the Bbc rely on Rami the rag man, aka 'Syrian Human Rights Observatory'. Founded by an anti-Assad activist and run from the front lines in Coventry..
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:11
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How about the fact that eye witnesses to these vile attacks happen to identify the distinctive Sukhoi and Mikoyan Gurevich attack aircraft. Having been to airshows, they are easily distinguished from Western aircraft like F-16s, F-15s and F-18s.

Oh, and just for the record, Russia Today is nothing more than a shyte propaganda channel on behalf of the Kremlin. Reputable news channels like Al Jazeera, France 24 and Euronews do offer different viewpoints and they manage to combine that with high editorial and journalistic standards, i.e. completely unlike Russia Today.
Wow, Al Jazeera reputable?! Sounds like it's only propaganda when you don't like what they're saying...

And how about some pictures/video footage of these aircrafts instead of just taking these "eye-witnesses" word as gospel?
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:33
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Wow, Al Jazeera reputable?! Sounds like it's only propaganda when you don't like what they're saying...
There's only one channel these days that keeps on getting into trouble with Ofcom over bias, partiality and dissembling and it's not Al Jazeera:

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Old 09-12-2016, 21:00
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I see the pro-establishment stooges are still peddling baseless accusations against Russia.

Where is the evidence that the Russians are responsible for the bombings of childrens hospitals?
Your comments are utterly disgusting. There is enough evidence out there show that Russians are murdering innocent children elderly, entire family's, any one who does not back Assad,. So much evidence you are either the most naive person or just trolling.

those who are working to help people in Syria who have no political motive to lie to about these attacks why are they lying like you imply, ? What about all youtube videos showing hospitals destroyed, homes, entire towns.

Now you can continue with all your rubbish or you can open your eyes, your backing a country who doped up there altheles on massive scale, a country who backs an evil dictator who will butcher those who do not follow him, a man capable of ordering his soldiers to chemically bomb innocent people.

You are very sick individual
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:09
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Your comments are utterly disgusting. There is enough evidence out there show that Russians are murdering innocent children elderly, entire family's, any one who does not back Assad,. So much evidence you are either the most naive person or just trolling.

those who are working to help people in Syria who have no political motive to lie to about these attacks why are they lying like you imply, ? What about all youtube videos showing hospitals destroyed, homes, entire towns.

Now you can continue with all your rubbish or you can open your eyes, your backing a country who doped up there altheles on massive scale, a country who backs an evil dictator who will butcher those who do not follow him, a man capable of ordering his soldiers to chemically bomb innocent people.

You are very sick individual
You make a very emotive case.

However the likes of Amnesty international have faced heavy criticism over their pro-Western bias. You may automatically believe what they have to say about Russia but many people can see they have an agenda.

That you think I am some sort of cranky conspiracy theorist without even questioning your own sources suggests you are the one who is being naive.

Just because I do not automatically believe everything our media tells us about Russia that does not make me a "sick individual".
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:25
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I read alot of your other post and yes if genuine believe what you say your are very sick individual. The fact you are backing Russia, would contradicting if you didn't back Assad too, this fact alone makes you sick individual.


without even questioning your own sources suggests you are the one who is being naive.
Erm you basing information on channel that has been PROOFED on many occasion to have fabricated news, None of these sources that show Russia are committing these sick acts have never fabricated any news and most evidence does not come from the media It comes from personally uploading videos from the people in Syria.

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That you think I am some sort of cranky conspiracy theorist
Yes you show perfect traits of a conspiracy theorist or a troll,

Just remember one thing while you continue to be pro Russian, there was a hell of lot people who denied the Jews being massacred (some still do), people who blindly defended Hitler.

in a couple of years the full truth will be known about sick acts that happening every day, I doubt if your truly are serious about your comments, that you just voice you opinion on this forum, when truth comes out do you really want to remembered as that person who defended such atrocious acts ?
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:27
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I think if Russia Today claims something, we can be sure it's a load of shit
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:13
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How very convenient...

And that doesn't strike you as suspicious in any way?

That one media outlet is not subjected to the same scrutiny as another?

Where is the transparency?!
I didn't come down on one side or the other. I was simply stating a fact that OFCOM has no remit to investigate BBC broadcasts. That will change next April when OFCOM take over regulation of the BBC from the BBC Trust. There's no need to bring conspiracy theories into it. In fact I don't support the one sided Western reporting of the Syrian conflict.
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:20
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I think if Russia Today claims something, we can be sure it's a load of shit
And why would that be?

Why is Russia Today any less reliable than the BBC?

Why is one form of propaganda any better than the other?

You seem to support the idea of automatically believing what a single media outlet says.

I am saying consider the alternatives and make up your own mind.
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:38
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Before I clicked on the link, I thought, I bet it's from RT....and Lo and behold it was!!!
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:40
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I think if Russia Today claims something, we can be sure it's a load of shit
Indeed. There are a lot of gullible people around.
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:42
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Indeed. There are a lot of gullible people around.
"I don't like the biased MSM, so I'll follow an "alternative" source that doesn't even try and hide its bias".
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:45
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"I don't like the biased MSM, so I'll follow an "alternative" source that doesn't even try and hide its bias".
All media is biased.

I trust the media outlets that admit their bias more than outlets that hide it.

It's far easier to have an informed opinion when you are aware of the shortcomings of your source.
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