Originally Posted by academia:
“Perhaps a properly severe sentence would satisfy the public. Such a short sentence is ludicrous considering the horrific nature of the crime. The same situation arose in the Bulger case - one of the boys seems to have gone on to make something of his life, the other not, continuing in very nasty behaviour.
A 50-50 chance of success isn't good enough considering the threat to children these two pose.”
I doubt it and we don't know what threat they pose. The Bulger case was murder.
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“"If the public could be trusted not to take the law into their own hands and inflict violent retribution on offenders who, no matter what their crimes, have been caught, tried and punished according to law, then there would be no need to grant anonymity."
Simple answer, keep them away from the public. Don't let them out ”
Any other exorbitant suggestions? Why not read and comprehend the quote and leave behind the archaic eye-less and tooth-less biblical fantasy to ludicrously condone equally criminal violence.
Originally Posted by benjamini:
“Indeed, we love to scape goat and social services are sitting ducks. I'm sure there were indeed failings and there will always be in these situation, social services do a bloody thankless job. But it's the parents who turn out these deeply damaged feral children with no boundaries, no life skill, often brought up in chaotic poverty stricken violent homes who are ultimately responsible. SS are merely a sticking plaster on a whole hideous sub culture few of us want to recognise or know about.”
I agree, no doubt one or both the parents were raised in the same way and dysfunction isn't limited to any single section of society.
Originally Posted by Brandy211:
“I disagree that the boys behaviour was ingrained in their DNA.
They apparently grew up in a filthy house with doors covered in grease.They had a mother who had seven boys in the space of nine years, the family were known to social services for 14 years before the offence took place.
Both parents were drug dependents, the father regularly beat their mother. The boys smoked 20 cigarettes a day, drank cider and vodka & were allowed to smoke cannabis their father grew. They were also allowed to watch violent and porn dvds.
The court heard their mother confided "intimate" details with them.
They were free to roam the streets and create the same havoc they saw daily at home.
Their 14 year old brother had been sent to a youth offenders a few months before.
Neighbours said the street were fearful of the family.
The two boys were in foster care at the time of the offence. When confronted by the police, their mother said "The boys are nowt to do with me".
These boys had never known what a normal life is, probably until they were detained.
Not only did they have neglectful, drug addicted, violent, parents but also another 5 brothers who may also have been a bad influence on them.
One of the boys sobbed in court, as their defence read out about their father,s behaviour towards their mother.
They weren't born with this behaviour, it was taught.”
Of course it was taught. The root of most human behaviour and there will never be a miracle solution.
Originally Posted by Hank Schrader:
“That's one of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen on YouTube. That vile bitch should be arrested for child abuse. I hope social services have seen this and are taking the appropriate action.”
A relatively inoffensive example of the toxic influences children like the two in question experience.