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Old 10-12-2016, 21:02
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Tbh I don't think Aaron has been much use. He seems to be taking a ' do nothing, she's s just a kid' approach but it's s clearly not working. He keeps rewarding her behaviour with cinema trips, as if he wants to be her friend but what the poor kid needs is a parent. Chas is right - she's s running rings around him. Surely she'll feel more secure if he starts to act more like a parent and there are some boundaries in place? She's s been dumped by her Mum, and her Dad was a paedo. Aaron needs to step up to the mark, if he's s going to take on an in loco parentis role. Otherwise she might have been better going to Ireland and making a fresh start with her Mum.

I think both her and Gabby will become very close and help each other through this though. I can see both if them growing up a lot in the coming g months Well, poor Gabby will have to.
I agree that Aaron hasn't been the ideal parent. My point is, though, that, in regard to this latest episode, he has told Liv off. He said to her 'What where you thinking of?', and 'You should have known what could have happened' in regard to the posted video going viral on the Internet. But he's also defended Liv against taking all the blame for the incident. Perhaps an inadequate response, but at least some sort of constructive response. Bernice, on the other hand, who should know better, has absolved Gabby of all blame and put all the fault on Liv - ie she has made no meaningful response to Gabby's behaviour at all.
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:36
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FW = First words in episodes
BB = Last words Before Break
AB = First words After Break
LW = Last Words in episode

Tonight’s episode appearances are confirmed as:

+ Chas (FW)
+ Moira
+ Cain
+ Laurel (BB)
+ Aaron

+ Robert
+ Liv
+ Bernice
+ Brenda
+ Diane

+ Gabby
+ Sandy (AB)
+ Ashley (LW)
+ Emma
+ Dotty

+ Leyla
+ Pete
+ Finn
+ Kasim
+ Eric

+ Nicola
+ Frank
+ Zak
+ Arthur
+ Jacob


+++ Kisses Tonight +++

Leyla and Pete




The following characters appeared in all 6 episodes this week so two bonus points are awarded

+ Chas
+ Finn
+ Kasim
+ Laurel
+ Liv
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:06
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It's interesting to compare and contrast the different treatments of Liv & Gabby.

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Hi Teifiboi.

Sorry to cut out the rest of your post, believe when I say I'm not ignoring the points you made at all, just want to make myself clear here.

Me getting pissed about Liv not being punished doesn't mean I think Gabby should get a pass at all.

However, the reason why I singled out Liv is because in Gabby's case at least the show itself acknowledges Gabby is a brat as well as even Gabby herself sometimes acknowledges she's in the wrong at times.

Liv on the other hand not only never shows any remorse for her actions (or when she does, there's always a "but" type excuse), but the show for some reason appears to think we should find her smart-arse attitude amusing? And whenever Chas, to her credit, TRIES to discipline her in comes useless Aaron with his pathetic "She's just a kid Mum!" or "Just don't do that again m'kay?" Seriously Aaron sort it out now otherwise I'll perform the Seance myself and get Cameron to punish her for you instead (granted Chas won't be pleased about that but damn it would be so worth it)!

Ahem, but yeah, all in all hope this clears things up and you'll be able to see where I'm coming from?
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:17
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Hi Teifiboi.

Sorry to cut out the rest of your post, believe when I say I'm not ignoring the points you made at all, just want to make myself clear here.

Me getting pissed about Liv not being punished doesn't mean I think Gabby should get a pass at all.

However, the reason why I singled out Liv is because in Gabby's case at least the show itself acknowledges Gabby is a brat as well as even Gabby herself sometimes acknowledges she's in the wrong at times.

Liv on the other hand not only never shows any remorse for her actions (or when she does, there's always a "but" type excuse), but the show for some reason appears to think we should find her smart-arse attitude amusing? And whenever Chas, to her credit, TRIES to discipline her in comes useless Aaron with his pathetic "She's just a kid Mum!" or "Just don't do that again m'kay?" Seriously Aaron sort it out now otherwise I'll perform the Seance myself and get Cameron to punish her for you instead (granted Chas won't be pleased about that but damn it would be so worth it)!

Ahem, but yeah, all in all hope this clears things up and you'll be able to see where I'm coming from?
Hello Red-Eye,


I agree with your points regarding Liv & Gabby. I was, mainly, wanting to point out how totally useless Bernice is as a parent.

Chas tries, and Aaron in his own way, albeit somewhat ineffectively, but Bernice does nothing at all. Aaron does love hs sister, Bernice seems to forget that she has a daughter called Gabby, until a crisis lands on her doorstep.

I agree, too, that Liv doesn't show remorse, or has a 'but' type excuse, though I did wonder whether there was a spark of remorse when Aaron told her that Gabby had had to receive hospital treatment - time will tell!


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Old 11-12-2016, 14:04
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Hello Red-Eye,


I agree with your points regarding Liv & Gabby. I was, mainly, wanting to point out how totally useless Bernice is as a parent.

Chas tries, and Aaron in his own way, albeit somewhat ineffectively, but Bernice does nothing at all. Aaron does love hs sister, Bernice seems to forget that she has a daughter called Gabby, until a crisis lands on her doorstep.

I agree, too, that Liv doesn't show remorse, or has a 'but' type excuse, though I did wonder whether there was a spark of remorse when Aaron told her that Gabby had had to receive hospital treatment - time will tell!


Teifiboi.
Can't argue with you about Bernice, very useless parent and a very self-centred "me, me, me" attitude to life.

Erm hello? Your daughter Gabby remember her? Instead of worrying about your love life why don't you get more involved with your relationship with Gabby instead of whenever it suits.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:47
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Can't argue with you about Bernice, very useless parent and a very self-centred "me, me, me" attitude to life.

Erm hello? Your daughter Gabby remember her? Instead of worrying about your love life why don't you get more involved with your relationship with Gabby instead of whenever it suits.
Goodness knows what the other one's s up to
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:52
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Hello Red-Eye,


I agree with your points regarding Liv & Gabby. I was, mainly, wanting to point out how totally useless Bernice is as a parent.

Chas tries, and Aaron in his own way, albeit somewhat ineffectively, but Bernice does nothing at all. Aaron does love hs sister, Bernice seems to forget that she has a daughter called Gabby, until a crisis lands on her doorstep.

I agree, too, that Liv doesn't show remorse, or has a 'but' type excuse, though I did wonder whether there was a spark of remorse when Aaron told her that Gabby had had to receive hospital treatment - time will tell!


Teifiboi.
To be fair to Liv I think she was worried about Gabby. We might see some changes in her if she continues to be a friend to Gabby.
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Old 11-12-2016, 17:23
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Goodness knows what the other one's s up to
Oh God I forgot she had another child too! Thanks for reminding me.

Is the other one even alive? Going by the way Bernice behaves wouldn't surprise me if she wasn't anymore.

And now I feel depressed for writing that.
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Old 11-12-2016, 18:52
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I wish Laurel would put Ashley back in the day centre. She's taking on too much. She's going to end up totally exhausted and a nervous wreck soon. I know she sees not being able to look after Ashley as failing, but she's got no choice. She's already showing signs of not being able to cope. I think it's going to take someone sitting her down and having a firm talk with her before she sees sense. I know she thinks she can cope with looking after Ashley all the time but she'll eventually see that she actually can't. I think John Middleton's acting when playing someone with Alzheimer's has been great!
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Old 11-12-2016, 20:52
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Jay-cubs hair is very erect
Cute But Underused Finn is getting Kasim very erect.
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Old 11-12-2016, 21:20
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Thanks for bumping this thread, Huck.

Made it easy to find for this Mildstone post.
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Old 11-12-2016, 21:31
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Thanks for bumping this thread, Huck.

Made it easy to find for this Mildstone post.
Congrats!
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Old 11-12-2016, 22:11
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Fag Ash Liv is an out of control terror who nobody is doing a thing about, except maybe Chas and she's not doing much beyond some squawking at her useless son who's as much use as a lump of clay, sitting plonked in front of the table stuffing his tear stained face while finding the horrible brat's actions funny. Dreadful sod, raised hell himself, now thinks it's amusing little miss take ( I'm sure she was, nobody would actively plan to have such a horrible spawn) is doing the same. She also seems to have developed her unsavoury unpleasant brother's unsavoury unpleasant habit of coming up wth excuse after excuse, blaming everyone else and doing practically anything but accepting the blame and taking responsibilty for her own actions. Waaaron kept hiding behind mummy Chas, now Fag Ash is hiding behind his scowl (well it's big enough). She needs a plimsoll aimed with such precision she'd clear the river in one leap from it, smartarsed little cow, if she spoke to me the way she does others her arse would indeed be smarting.
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Old 11-12-2016, 22:15
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Fag Ash Liv is an out of control terror who nobody is doing a thing about, except maybe Chas and she's not doing much beyond some squawking at her useless son who's as much use as a lump of clay, sitting plonked in front of the table stuffing his tear stained face while finding the horrible brat's actions funny. Dreadful sod, raised hell himself, now thinks it's amusing little miss take ( I'm sure she was, nobody would actively plan to have such a horrible spawn) is doing the same. She also seems to have developed her unsavoury unpleasant brother's unsavoury unpleasant habit of coming up wth excuse after excuse, blaming everyone else and doing practically anything but accepting the blame and taking responsibilty for her own actions. Waaaron kept hiding behind mummy Chas, now Fag Ash is hiding behind his scowl (well it's big enough). She needs a plimsoll aimed with such precision she'd clear the river in one leap from it, smartarsed little cow, if she spoke to me the way she does others her arse would indeed be smarting.
Don't hold back CollieWobbles, tell us what you REALLY think!

And I thought my criticism of Liv was harsh.
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Old 11-12-2016, 23:41
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Mildstone mildstone!
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Old 11-12-2016, 23:43
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Fag Ash Liv is an out of control terror who nobody is doing a thing about, except maybe Chas and she's not doing much beyond some squawking at her useless son who's as much use as a lump of clay, sitting plonked in front of the table stuffing his tear stained face while finding the horrible brat's actions funny. Dreadful sod, raised hell himself, now thinks it's amusing little miss take ( I'm sure she was, nobody would actively plan to have such a horrible spawn) is doing the same. She also seems to have developed her unsavoury unpleasant brother's unsavoury unpleasant habit of coming up wth excuse after excuse, blaming everyone else and doing practically anything but accepting the blame and taking responsibilty for her own actions. Waaaron kept hiding behind mummy Chas, now Fag Ash is hiding behind his scowl (well it's big enough). She needs a plimsoll aimed with such precision she'd clear the river in one leap from it, smartarsed little cow, if she spoke to me the way she does others her arse would indeed be smarting.
I agree with you entirely; and, may I take this opportunity to congratulate you on a most consise; and, indeed, most eloquently put wobble, collie
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:24
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Fag Ash Liv is an out of control terror who nobody is doing a thing about, except maybe Chas and she's not doing much beyond some squawking at her useless son who's as much use as a lump of clay, sitting plonked in front of the table stuffing his tear stained face while finding the horrible brat's actions funny. Dreadful sod, raised hell himself, now thinks it's amusing little miss take ( I'm sure she was, nobody would actively plan to have such a horrible spawn) is doing the same. She also seems to have developed her unsavoury unpleasant brother's unsavoury unpleasant habit of coming up wth excuse after excuse, blaming everyone else and doing practically anything but accepting the blame and taking responsibilty for her own actions. Waaaron kept hiding behind mummy Chas, now Fag Ash is hiding behind his scowl (well it's big enough). She needs a plimsoll aimed with such precision she'd clear the river in one leap from it, smartarsed little cow, if she spoke to me the way she does others her arse would indeed be smarting.
I take it, then, that, in your book, Gabby is a good child and Bernice a good mother.
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Old 12-12-2016, 08:33
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Thanks for bumping this thread, Huck.

Made it easy to find for this Mildstone post.
Hooraay!!! Happy MILDSTONE, Gulfie!
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:55
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QUOTE=Oldnjaded;84871176]Hooraay!!! Happy MILDSTONE, Gulfie! [/quote]

Morning Oldnjaded

Yes well done Gulfie

Off to Morrisons for my first proper Christmas dinner later mmm

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Old 12-12-2016, 10:15
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I take it, then, that, in your book, Gabby is a good child and Bernice a good mother.
No, Gobby is not a good child either, ( there are no good children on soaps, all bad behaved, rude, ill mannered, mouthy little walking adverts for Durex), she's another one that needs a fine leathering for her actions and teaching how to speak to people properly. That sarcastic plum in her gob tone she takes makes me want to box her ears. She nicked a load of drink and caused havoc before didn't she, didn't learn much, those 'sorry's' she said obviously as hollow as Adumb's cranial cavity. If I were Laurel I'd have left her in that cricket pavilion, if she'd passed out and froze to death it'd damn well serve her right. Bernice isn't a good mother no, then again Gobby is a horrendous kid so I don't blame her for wanting to stay as far away as possible unless she gets her arm twisted up her back about it.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:42
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No, Gobby is not a good child either, ( there are no good children on soaps, all bad behaved, rude, ill mannered, mouthy little walking adverts for Durex), she's another one that needs a fine leathering for her actions and teaching how to speak to people properly. That sarcastic plum in her gob tone she takes makes me want to box her ears. She nicked a load of drink and caused havoc before didn't she, didn't learn much, those 'sorry's' she said obviously as hollow as Adumb's cranial cavity. If I were Laurel I'd have left her in that cricket pavilion, if she'd passed out and froze to death it'd damn well serve her right. Bernice isn't a good mother no, then again Gobby is a horrendous kid so I don't blame her for wanting to stay as far away as possible unless she gets her arm twisted up her back about it.
But perhaps Gabby is an horrendous kid because she has such a crap mother. How old was she when her mother disappeared the first time - left her to go and live with the other daughter, which would have made it worse. Since Bernice came back she comes and goes as she likes without any thought for her daughter. She is a mindless, self-obsessed idiot.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:44
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But perhaps Gabby is an horrendous kid because she has such a crap mother. How old was she when her mother disappeared the first time - left her to go and live with the other daughter, which would have made it worse. Since Bernice came back she comes and goes as she likes without any thought for her daughter. She is a mindless, self-obsessed idiot.
Gobby had a great dad in Ashley though so the excuses for her don't wash with me

Surly Serfette and gobby are both horrendous kids. Saying that I think the young actress who plays Liv is very good.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:54
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Gobby had a great dad in Ashley though so the excuses for her don't wash with me

Surly Serfette and gobby are both horrendous kids. Saying that I think the young actress who plays Liv is very good.
Unfortunately, having one good parent does not necessarily override the damage done by the other one.

I agree that Isobel Steele is a great little actress. I hope they make better use of her and don't just keep on with the gobby rebel routine.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:56
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But perhaps Gabby is an horrendous kid because she has such a crap mother. How old was she when her mother disappeared the first time - left her to go and live with the other daughter, which would have made it worse. Since Bernice came back she comes and goes as she likes without any thought for her daughter. She is a mindless, self-obsessed idiot.
That's no excuse, her dad has always been there for her and given her a good home and upbringing, so in all fairness has Laurel, she's not some feral guttersnipe however much she acts it . She's got no reason to behave as she does, she's unruly and out of control because no one has really pulled her up on it and given her a ruddy good slap, for the way she speaks to people if nothing else.
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Old 12-12-2016, 13:01
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No, Gobby is not a good child either, ( there are no good children on soaps, all bad behaved, rude, ill mannered, mouthy little walking adverts for Durex), she's another one that needs a fine leathering for her actions and teaching how to speak to people properly. That sarcastic plum in her gob tone she takes makes me want to box her ears. She nicked a load of drink and caused havoc before didn't she, didn't learn much, those 'sorry's' she said obviously as hollow as Adumb's cranial cavity. If I were Laurel I'd have left her in that cricket pavilion, if she'd passed out and froze to death it'd damn well serve her right. Bernice isn't a good mother no, then again Gobby is a horrendous kid so I don't blame her for wanting to stay as far away as possible unless she gets her arm twisted up her back about it.
Another beautifully put; and most eloquent wobble, collie
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