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Old 09-12-2016, 20:47
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First off...I don't have anything against any of the pros and think they are all brilliant at what they do.

But...it does seem to me that some are unfairly favoured over others in terms of the pro routines and guest singer performances.

Kevin, Karen, Janette and Alijaz seem to always be given the lead in the pro dances and I was wondering why people thought that was the case?

I just think it's a shame how the other pros are often overlooked and not given the chance to shine. Of course if their celeb is still in the show then that obviously limits their role perhaps but I think it's a shame how people like Neil, Chloe, Oksana, Katya and even people like Pasha have been shafted this season.
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Old 09-12-2016, 20:59
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It may feel like that because they're quite 'in your face' but if you look back at the pro dances on the results show they've been fairly evenly distributed. Oksana was lead in the group 'AT', Chloe and AJ led in the Remembrance Day dance, Oti led one with a fire hydrant, Katya led on Saturday. This was only Janette and Karen's second lead and I can only remember Kevin leading in that weird one with Brendan as a vampire luring them into his house. I don't know what's happened with Pasha though - he seems to have entirely faded into the wallpaper this year.
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:00
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do get your facts right before moaning - Kevin has been up front once this season on halloween week he hasnt been in some of the pro dances for the last couple weeks. Jeanette has been up front a lot but normally when they are using her acrobat skills - all of them have or will feature up front over the series
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:12
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do get your facts right before moaning - Kevin has been up front once this season on halloween week he hasnt been in some of the pro dances for the last couple weeks. Jeanette has been up front a lot but normally when they are using her acrobat skills - all of them have or will feature up front over the series
I'm not moaning at all. I said from the start that I like all the pros but this was just my impression from watching this season and I noticed in the ITT thread that some people remarked on this too, so it's not just me.

Anyway, you just contradicted yourself. You said yourself that Janette has been up front a lot. How do we know that the other pros can't do what she does?

And I'm not bashing them at all. I like all the pros and think they are excellent at what must be a challenging job but this was just my impression.
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:14
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do get your facts right before moaning - Kevin has been up front once this season on halloween week he hasnt been in some of the pro dances for the last couple weeks. Jeanette has been up front a lot but normally when they are using her acrobat skills - all of them have or will feature up front over the series
Yes I think they utilize Janette a lot because she's so flexible and good at lifts - which also makes her stand out a lot in the routines so you're more likely to remember them. I don't think it's real favouritism - she's just the obvious choice for any lift heavy routines, though they did use Oksana for one of them (the AT with Gorka.)

I do agree that there's not been enough Pasha though. <3
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:33
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It looks like Pasha's the lead with Janette this weekend. I think they use Janette a lot because she's tiny, so anyone can chuck her around. It probably needs more planning to use (eg) Nat as the lead girl because you'd have to make sure the taller male professionals were free too.

Also Janette and Karen have had a lot of free time this series!
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:39
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Then they should take more time to plan. I like Janette but enough already. That goes for Karen too. I know they went out early but they're becoming the focus.
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:44
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It may feel like that because they're quite 'in your face' but if you look back at the pro dances on the results show they've been fairly evenly distributed. Oksana was lead in the group 'AT', Chloe and AJ led in the Remembrance Day dance, Oti led one with a fire hydrant, Katya led on Saturday. This was only Janette and Karen's second lead and I can only remember Kevin leading in that weird one with Brendan as a vampire luring them into his house. I don't know what's happened with Pasha though - he seems to have entirely faded into the wallpaper this year.
bib...thats no way to talk about melvin!

Seriously, isn't it the pros who go out first who are given most of the floor space in the group dances? Or is it just coincidence that karen always seems to muscle her way to the front whatever?
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Old 09-12-2016, 21:58
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It looks like Pasha's the lead with Janette this weekend. I think they use Janette a lot because she's tiny, so anyone can chuck her around. It probably needs more planning to use (eg) Nat as the lead girl because you'd have to make sure the taller male professionals were free too.

Also Janette and Karen have had a lot of free time this series!
Pasha has been like a ghost this season! Has he even been in the Claudatorium each week? Hope he goes further next year.

I wonder if it creates any bad feeling among the pros as to who is featured more and who is at the front, back etc? I imagine they would all want to be at the front!
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Old 09-12-2016, 22:01
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Pasha has been like a ghost this season! Has he even been in the Claudatorium each week? Hope he goes further next year.

I wonder if it creates any bad feeling among the pros as to who is featured more and who is at the front, back etc? I imagine they would all want to be at the front!
Well that was said to be behind Karen and Ola's spat!
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Old 10-12-2016, 01:17
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Thank you. Even when you look at the comments on youtube people are noticing this as well and complaining. WHY Must Janette and Karen always be center stage most of the times in these routines Yes occasionally you have Natalie , Oti and others being emphasized but MOST of these pro routines are always centered on Karen and Janette 😒
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Old 10-12-2016, 04:36
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Don't believe they are favoured. However it makes sense that some dances suit some pros better than others. Karen and Jeanette were great in west side story. Also some have less to do as they're out.
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:55
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Anyway, you just contradicted yourself. You said yourself that Janette has been up front a lot.
One out of four is hardly contradicting herself!
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:27
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I think it has been pretty evenly distributed. Agree about a lack of Pasha though. Those still in the competition are not going to be able to do so much. I think it has been nice to have seen Anton a bit more this series as well,the disco routine was funny.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:24
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Because they are Burn the Floor alumni from when Jason Gilkinson directed it. Yes they are definitely favoured by him.

All the dances are created and learnt before the main series starts filming as well, so nothing to do with who's out early.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:42
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Pasha was actually in burn the floor too so I don't think that's entirely true.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:48
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If it's correct what previous professionals have said then if Kevin's dad does work on the show, it makes sense.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:51
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If it's correct what previous professionals have said then if Kevin's dad does work on the show, it makes sense.
Kevin's dad does not work on the show.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:53
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If it's correct what previous professionals have said then if Kevin's dad does work on the show, it makes sense.
You know, just because you say something over and over and over and over again, it still doesn't make it true.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:56
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I'm only saying it because it's what I have read on 3 or 4 occasions. What you say doesn't change the face I've read it. I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying if what I read is true it makes sense.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:00
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I'm only saying it because it's what I have read on 3 or 4 occasions. What you say doesn't change the face I've read it. I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying if what I read is true it makes sense.
The thing is, James Jordan has quite a downer on the Clifton's - so he is likely to say things that aren't true about them.

The only instance I can think of is I think (bold emphasis as I'm not sure) some of the students from his dance school danced in a blackpool opening routine a few year ago. I don't think that constitutes "working on the show."
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:03
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I'm only saying it because it's what I have read on 3 or 4 occasions. What you say doesn't change the face I've read it. I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying if what I read is true it makes sense.
And people have asked you to tell us where you 'read' it before and you've not provided any sources beyond 'I read it on James Jordan's twitter feed years ago - go back and check' so forgive me if I take your insistence that you 'read it on 3 or 4 occasions' claim lightly. People who spread that sort of foundless, stirring nonsense to push an agenda without even pretending they have the facts to back it up are infuriating. It has been proven false, yet you keep pushing it for some reason so don't pretend to be innocent when you keep telling those lies that you know are lies on every thread you post on.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:03
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I just assumed those who were out first featured most as they had more time on their hands
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:04
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I could understand if it was just James Jordan that said it. I get what you say he may have a problem with them, but others have said it too. Unless they all have something against the Cliftons. Which seems odd that 3 or 4 people would have a problem with them.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:06
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I could understand if it was just James Jordan that said it. I get what you say he may have a problem with them, but others have said it too. Unless they all have something against the Cliftons. Which seems odd that 3 or 4 people would have a problem with them.
Who else has said it?

I feel like if it was true then the show would have mentioned it, don't you?
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