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Old 10-12-2016, 09:13
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How can anyone be expected to dance an AT to that appalling 'Can't get you out of my head' by Kylie Monogue . It is an insult to the AT dance form and insulting to Ore and Jo to be asked to dance to that crap song .

Ore and Jo are novices to the AT and should be given recognisable AT music which would help their dance not some piece of crap that hinders .
1. They're not the only couple to get non-traditional AT music this year. The others did fine.

2. Jo doesn't seem to be at all concerned.

3. They're avoiding the Samba.

There is no sabotage, no conspiracy. If the judges and public like them enough they'll make the final, if not then they won't. Not sure why that is in any way difficult to understand.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:19
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I think Claudia and AJ have got the 'shortest straw'

A 'quickstep' which will emphasise the huge height difference and a 'rumba' which is the dance of death for celebrities.
I think Monkseal said recently that no one has been eliminated on a rumba since Sunetra in series 12, so it's not really a dance of death. I think that's the tango now, but not many people are saying Louise has been sabotaged
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:35
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I like Ore very much and think he's a great instinctive dancer. I would like him to reach the final. Just getting that out of the way.

I do not think he's got a bad set of dances this week. Quickstep is great for Joanne and she'll choreograph something good. AT should suit him as we know from his Paso that he can do moody and do it well. If he's good enough to be high up the leaderboard, he could be fine, but the two DO appearances rather suggest he won't be.

If anyone has a bad draw this week, it's Louise. Tango to poor music and a samba which is not likely to suit her strengths. Claudia also has a dodgy draw. QS in direct competition with Joanne's effort and a rumba which will highlight any lack of connection between her and AJ.

If Ore goes, it will be because he isn't popular enough with the public, not because he's been shafted by the producers.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:36
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I thought the producers favoured Ore

I don't think the AT music will be as bad as everyone is saying. Jo has said it's a twist on the original song so I think it will have been rearranged by Dave Arch. I bet Jo has heard the ballroom tango version and may be using that - which, while is probably not suitable for an AT, has a great tango feel and plenty of drama for a Strictlified showdance inspired by AT.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:40
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Ore & Jo unlikeable ? please explain.
You've never liked Ore from the start *rolls eyes*

I find them very likeable, I love their friendship and their passion for dance. Jo is a brilliant Choreographer especially in ballroom.
I love Ore, he's a perfect gentleman, I also love his humour.
For someone who had never had a dance lesson in his life before Strictly I think he's done a fantastic job
Ore became unlikeable to so many it seems the second he looked like a decent dancer who could potentially challenge some others. Then when he had the audacity to score high in the jive and Len dared to compare him favourably to Jay the knives were well and truly out and he never recovered. Every week it has been he's too emotional, he's fake, too in your face, pretending to be modest, overmarked, favoured, too close to Jo, inappropriate, the judges pet (despite all evidence), yada yada yada. The only thing I don't think he's been charged with yet is the dreaded smug tag.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:40
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Regardless he'll be saved in the dance off. Time will tell.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:43
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Ore became unlikeable to so many it seems the second he looked like a decent dancer who could potentially challenge some others. Then when he had the audacity to score high in the jive and Len dared to compare him favourably to Jay the knives were well and truly out and he never recovered. Every week it has been he's too emotional, he's fake, too in your face, pretending to be modest, overmarked, favoured, too close to Jo, inappropriate, the judges pet (despite all evidence), yada yada yada. The only thing I don't think he's been charged with yet is the dreaded smug tag.
The smug tag has been saved for Danny.


I think that Ore has two good dances so hopefully he will perform them well and people will vote for him.
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:56
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The smug tag has been saved for Danny.


I think that Ore has two good dances so hopefully he will perform them well and people will vote for him.
The only one who's never been slagged off for their personality is Claudia. The rest have been labelled a mixture of fake, cocky, boring, stroppy, teacher's pet, vanilla, smug etc, etc.

I like Ore, I like Danny, in fact I like all of them. I hope they have a fantastic time tonight. One thing's for sure....they will all do their very best.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:00
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The only one who's never been slagged off for their personality is Claudia. The rest have been labelled a mixture of fake, cocky, boring, stroppy, teacher's pet, vanilla, smug etc, etc.

I like Ore, I like Danny, in fact I like all of them. I hope they have a fantastic time tonight. One thing's for sure....they will all do their very best.
I agree.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:05
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I'm going to stay away from here until it's over and just enjoy the show. Too much meanness on here this year.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:08
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I'm going to stay away from here until it's over and just enjoy the show. Too much meanness on here this year.
Fair enough.

People are quite mean on this forum but I try and ignore it, sometimes.

The main thing that annoys me is people disliking someone purely because they are good.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:07
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Ore became unlikeable to so many it seems the second he looked like a decent dancer who could potentially challenge some others. Then when he had the audacity to score high in the jive and Len dared to compare him favourably to Jay the knives were well and truly out and he never recovered. Every week it has been he's too emotional, he's fake, too in your face, pretending to be modest, overmarked, favoured, too close to Jo, inappropriate, the judges pet (despite all evidence), yada yada yada. The only thing I don't think he's been charged with yet is the dreaded smug tag.
Ore brings this on himself. He banged on about wanting to outjive Jay all that week so naturally that's the storyline they went with (though very few people think he did outjive him ... certainly his YouTube views aren't backing it up) ... there was another dance that he was going to dance better than anyone and this week I've heard him say it about the AT. You want to do a good job of course but why keep on about being the best. Have some modesty. I think he probably does think he's performed the best male jive ... can anyone actually remember it?? Scott Maslen's was far more memorable let alone Jay's.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:12
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Ore brings this on himself. He banged on about wanting to outjive Jay all that week so naturally that's the storyline they went with (though very few people think he did outjive him ... certainly his YouTube views aren't backing it up) ... there was another dance that he was going to dance better than anyone and this week I've heard him say it about the AT. You want to do a good job of course but why keep on about being the best. Have some modesty. I think he probably does think he's performed the best male jive ... can anyone actually remember it?? Scott Maslen's was far more memorable let alone Jay's.
Yes, I remember it and it was a wow moment for me. I never rated Jay's as being the most brilliant life changing ever, tbf I preferred his Tango.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:23
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Yes, I remember it and it was a wow moment for me. I never rated Jay's as being the most brilliant life changing ever, tbf I preferred his Tango.
Well that's fine obviously but I'm totally not with you and I'm glad that Jay (and Danny's the same) just get on with their dances and don't try and top someone else or claim that they will or that that is their aim.
Jay would have been the last person to do this and so why should he get the 'move over Jay' nonsense? He certainly didn't claim it as life changing or make mention of it as being anything other than a great dance experience. Imagine if one of Ore's dances went viral. Blimey, he'd have a t-shirt printed!!
Strictly tried to make out Ore's was the best jive ever ... social media was having none of it though.
Nobody was expecting a great jive from Jay while Ore had been trumpeting his brilliance practically from day one of training.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:25
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Well that's fine obviously but I'm totally not with you and I'm glad that Jay (and Danny's the same) just get on with their dances and don't try and top someone else or claim that they will or that that is their aim.
Jay would have been the last person to do this and so why should he get the 'move over Jay' nonsense? He certainly didn't claim it as life changing or make mention of it as being anything other than a great dance experience. Imagine if one of Ore's dances went viral. Blimey, he'd have a t-shirt printed!!
Strictly tried to make out Ore's was the best jive ever ... social media was having none of it though.
Nobody was expecting a great jive from Jay while Ore had been trumpeting his brilliance practically from day one of training.
I remember him wanting it to be good, don't remember him 'trumpeting' his brilliance and I meant life changing for those that loved it so very much rather than the dancers themselves.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:39
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How can anyone be expected to dance an AT to that appalling 'Can't get you out of my head' by Kylie Monogue . It is an insult to the AT dance form and insulting to Ore and Jo to be asked to dance to that crap song .

Ore and Jo are novices to the AT and should be given recognisable AT music which would help their dance not some piece of crap that hinders .

Paace

I really don't mean to come over as rude.........but you do post some rubbish at times.

Just because you don't approve of the music, it does not mean that there is any ongoing sabotage.
If Ore and Jo don't make the final its because of a combination of the public vote and the judges' preferences.
Simple.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:42
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I remember him wanting it to be good, don't remember him 'trumpeting' his brilliance and I meant life changing for those that loved it so very much rather than the dancers themselves.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, dahhhling.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:55
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Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, dahhhling.
We all tilt things to read the way we want them to, are there any really objective people around? Also there is a lot to potentially lose at this stage so everyone seems antsy

The final will feel so relaxed comparitvely.

Won't it?
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:56
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We all tilt things to read the way we want them to, are there any really objective people around? Also there is a lot to potentially lose at this stage so everyone seems antsy

The final will feel so relaxed comparitvely.

Won't it?
It will, hopefully!
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:03
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Those damn bias producers they all want Louise and Kevin to win - swines!

I love these posts they ALWAYS make me laugh!
Yes, and giving Louise and Kevin that evocative Tango number "Glad All Over" by the great Argentinian maestro Dave Clark clearly shows who they want to win.
Just thinking about it I'm transported to the seedy bodegas of Buenos Aires.
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:06
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All too often in the last few years couples have been given entirely inappropriate music for the dance - Zorba the Greek for a Tango comes to mind. If the producers or whoever want to have control over the music at least give the pro's 3 or 4 songs to choose from, then at least they might have a chance of having something they can work with.
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:08
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Can anyone who thinks the production team favour or push anyone explain to me why they would . Why would it matter to the producers who wins ? Please explain in simple terms what the gain would be if Danny or Claudia or Louise won and not Ore
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:17
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Can anyone who thinks the production team favour or push anyone explain to me why they would . Why would it matter to the producers who wins ? Please explain in simple terms what the gain would be if Danny or Claudia or Louise won and not Ore
I would like to know as well.
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:24
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Can anyone who thinks the production team favour or push anyone explain to me why they would . Why would it matter to the producers who wins ? Please explain in simple terms what the gain would be if Danny or Claudia or Louise won and not Ore
Goodness knows! I actually find some posts hilarious to be honest.

Some people come across as paranoid when it comes to their favourite.

I look forward to reading some of the replies (if there are any)
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:38
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Can anyone who thinks the production team favour or push anyone explain to me why they would . Why would it matter to the producers who wins ? Please explain in simple terms what the gain would be if Danny or Claudia or Louise won and not Ore
I have often wondered this too. Surely all the BBC cares about is high ratings and they get that no matter the winner. Yes the producers might manipulate things to make the competition seem closer than it is - overmarking, music choices etc - but they're doing that so the audience keeps watching to see who wins, not to generate the winner they want. What difference does it make to them if Claudia makes the final over Ore?
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