Its on video. Very distressing scenes.

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusengli...5564731251702/

Is that the right way to handle such a situation?

No, she should have been taken by ambulance - in the wheelchair. The Officers would not have known of any conditions she had, or if there was a correct way to get her out of the wheelchair.

Totally wrong but I feel a bit sorry for the police because they are obviously just not trained to deal with disabilities. Leaves them and te disabled open to huge difficulties.

The police are paid to keep us safe and fight crime, if they do the wrong thing and cause that disabled woman further injury they would be sued in this society today, meaning another 5 officers off the streets because of the legal costs and compensation.

We get the society we deserve when people sue all the time and we have a claim culture.

Well said thine wonk.

That anyone disabled should be homeless is a disgraceful indictment of our modern society.

I only counted two cops.

Even then, this was the USA who may have different rules to us.

You misunderstood my point, £200,000 in compensation and legal costs paid out is the equivalent of the cost of 5 officers on the street.

E.g this case £500,000 (12 officers annual pay) Could go to this guy https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/f...scotland-500k/

He goes out, gets pissed, gets into a fight and then gets hit by a car and it is all the police's fault apparently. People's duty to look after themselves seems to be out of the window these days, to the point where a chain of bad decisions by them leads to a nice 1/2 million police payout.

I see what you mean. But a better statement would perhaps be -

"That anybody should be homeless is a disgraceful indictment of our modern society"

Disability, race, gender, sexuality or anything else shouldn't matter. But once again I understand what you mean and it's disgraceful.

Another argument would be if we stopped importing the worlds poor and hungry and looked after our own homeless first the situation perhaps may, just may be different. But that's another argument for another thread.

bib - we are the 5th richest nation in the world, that really shouldn't make any difference. The influx of 'the world's poor and hungry' hasn't changed our position on the league table (or has it, we used to be 7th richest), so whether we 'import' people or not, a rich country should not have homeless people on it's streets, disabled or otherwise.

Hmm, well if the two cops involved had half a brain between them, they'd have already known of the potential risk to the woman and either radioed for an ambulance or found an alternative method of dealing with the situation, which avoided the need to arrest.

We are in massive debt, public services are under pressure. The private wealth of business exports is not the same thing as the wealth of public funds and services and the ability to spend tax payers money.

We already have a much more generous system here in terms of benefits, NHS etc, compared to most countries, however the local authorities have budgets and they are struggling to house our people.

When I watch "can't pay we'll take it away" it seems to be always foreign people not paying the rent and getting evicted where they cry and go to the council taking the eviction notice to the council to get their housing.

The liberals here want us to keep importing people from abroad and giving them all of our services and support despite them never contributing a penny, whilst our own people go homeless or struggle.

I agree with much of what you say above, but what the chuff does it have to do with two cops who ballsed up the arrest of a wheelchaired woman in Miami, Florida, USA?

For anyone to be homeless in our society is a scandal imo, but I agree it's even worse if they have a disability. If my caseload is anything to go by, people with disabilities seem to be disproportionately represented among the homeless.

Driving back from Brighton earlier, I saw what I first took to be loads of rubbish lying on the pavement outside a bar. When I drove past, I realised it was a group of homeless people, at least 4, possibly 6, of them.

I felt so ashamed of myself for just having had a spree of frankly extravagant spending, I went online and donated some money to Shelter when I got in.

It's not distressing. It's a warm dry evening and the individual has decided to kick off and has ended up on the ground.

Someone who doesn't have a disability and had kicked off would probably be in an identical position.

If she'd made the lifestyle choice to be polite and follow through the instructions, the outcome is likely to have been very different.

Disability, like age, doesn't automatically make someone a good person.

The causes and reasons for homelessness go far beyond there not being enough homes.

Many homeless people suffer from mental health issues, are addicts or runaways who have left home because of abuse.

In some cases people can't cope or adapt to living in accomodation with the attendant responsibilities without a lot of support to overcome the issues that led to them being homeless in the first place.

I am always hearing 'we should help our own' but I do wonder if that actually includes the mentally ill and addicted homeless or just the ones deemed 'respectable' enough?

I was replying to another poster, that's why I quoted them.

Nothing to do with years and years of public spending cuts and tax cuts then.

I didn't say that, but are you willing to pay more tax? Most don't want to, we pay less tax than some European countries yet we get more like the NHS. If we have a limited budget we should be focusing on our people first though, not those who haven't contributed to this country.

Not surprising sadly. It's the USA, if you don't have the cash for a hospital stay they throw out onto the street or chase you for the money till the day you die.

Yes, I am. Income tax is low in historical terms, the first time I knew what the rate of incoe tax was it was 42.5%*. However, I'd like to see tax loopholes closed first.

I'd also like to see a reduction in VAT on non-food essential items, so people with little disposable income don't pay £1 in tax every time they spend £6 on soap and toilet rolls.

* Actually, it was 8s 6d in the pound, that's how long ago it was!

Why does being disabled licence someone to break laws?

I think the police officers were easy on her.

Sorry, you'll have to remind me where I said that it did.


Yes, I'm sure you would have done.

Yes; a good point.

Its in America, anyway- not our concern; they have their ways and we in Great Britain have ours.