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Old 10-12-2016, 17:42
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And the unelected Theresa May is?

Her PM highlights so far:

"Brexit is Brexit", "have our cake & eat it", "red, white & blue Brexit" and according to The Sun "God will guide my Brexit decisions".
Yet people still rate May far higher than Corbyn in just about every aspect. He excels in nothing. Corbyn just does and wringing and try to get the sympathy vote.
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:49
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Tatchell himself is just an embarrassment, full stop
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:59
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Tatchell himself is just an embarrassment, full stop
But Tatchell's message on the bombing in Syria was clear on his placards and Corbyn just mumbled and prevaricated and could not bring himself to condemn the Russians.

Corbyn just looked and sounded incoherent and about as un-statesmanlike as you could get.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:00
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Corbyn looked like right p***k there. Are you sure Shami isn't the actual leader? She seems to have risen rapidly through the ranks of a party she just joined less than a year ago.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:07
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Corbyn looked like right p***k there. Are you sure Shami isn't the actual leader? She seems to have risen rapidly through the ranks of a party she just joined less than a year ago.
Shami Countess Sharabbati, Abbott, Thornberry (Lady Nugee) and Corbyn, the gang of four London-centric representatives of the working man.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:09
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Corbyn looked lost, ineffectual, uncomfortable and too mild-mannered.

It says much when he, as a leader, has to be supported and guided by Shami C and Emily T.

I almost expected him to look to one side and say "Seamus, this isn't working".
Harold Wilson handled it a little more strongly. Any hecklers and the large men in suits moved in and removed them. Obviously Jezza doesn't mind if his security is that lax.

And the unelected Theresa May is?

Her PM highlights so far:

"Brexit is Brexit", "have our cake & eat it", "red, white & blue Brexit" and according to The Sun "God will guide my Brexit decisions".
Erm...you do know we don't elect Prime Ministers? It's amazing how many people don't seem to know that. She's an MP who's taken over the leadership of the party in government when the last PM resigned therefore she's PM. Like a fair number of others over the years, nost recently the calamitous Gordon Brown
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:10
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Tatchell himself is just an embarrassment, full stop
They should send him to Syria to sort it out.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:12
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And the unelected Theresa May is?

Her PM highlights so far:

"Brexit is Brexit", "have our cake & eat it", "red, white & blue Brexit" and according to The Sun "God will guide my Brexit decisions".
May was elected just like all the other Conservative M.P.s including Margaret Thatcher and like Thatcher she was chosen as leader of the Conservatives. The leader of the part in power is the Prime Minister.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:17
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Tatchell himself is just an embarrassment, full stop
An embarrassment to whom?
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:26
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I cringed. I really really like Jeremy, he to me is a decent bloke, in the totally wrong job, he is just not up to hard core politics, he looked absolutely out his depth. Someone, anyone, please make him watch himself on this video, the camera never lies, and get him to step down, before the MSM make toast of him.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:35
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May was elected just like all the other Conservative M.P.s including Margaret Thatcher and like Thatcher she was chosen as leader of the Conservatives. The leader of the party in power is the Prime Minister.
Not always. Churchill was not party leader when he became PM in 1940
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:43
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Not always. Churchill was not party leader when he became PM in 1940
That was a National Government in war time not a government of one or other party.
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Old 10-12-2016, 19:03
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Still at least he had shameless Chakrabarti whispering legal advice in his ear - who knows how nasty it could have become if she wasn't there to tell him to allow them to speak?

A momentum cavalry charge perhaps?
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Old 10-12-2016, 19:13
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And this episodes demonstrates very clearly why the totally incompetent Theresa May and her rotten party are getting off scot-free. Corbyn is a rubbish leader of the opposition. Certainly not worth 130k per year of our taxpayers money.
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Old 10-12-2016, 19:49
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Shami Countess Sharabbati, Abbott, Thornberry (Lady Nugee) and Corbyn, the gang of four London-centric representatives of the working man.
They might as well be Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa and Po for all the connection they have to most people's lives.
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Old 10-12-2016, 20:22
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And this episodes demonstrates very clearly why the totally incompetent Theresa May and her rotten party are getting off scot-free. Corbyn is a rubbish leader of the opposition. Certainly not worth 130k per year of our taxpayers money.
Just goes too show that an elected leader is not necessarily the best. Corbyn was voted in by their own members with a massive majority, they got the leader they wanted and basically deserved. They will have to lose a lot of face to remove him, he is so arrogant he will not resign, he is, after all, the very best they have, that is why Labour people voted him in.

To be fair it looks exactly like the Conservative, Liberal Democrats and UKIP were the ones who voted Corbyn, in as the best leader for Labour and and not the Labour Party.
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Old 10-12-2016, 20:32
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They might as well be Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa and Po for all the connection they have to most people's lives.
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:08
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It doesn't seem that long ago that Labour were being slaughtered in the right wing press for defeating Cameron's motion to bomb Syria

They then got slaughtered for only half-heartedly supporting Cameron's motion to bomb Syria the second time he brought it forward

(whatever happened to that 'we must bomb Syria' thing that Cameron kept banging on about ?)

Now they're getting slaughtered for not opposing the bombing of Syria

strange old world.......
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:15
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And the unelected Theresa May is?

Her PM highlights so far:

"Brexit is Brexit", "have our cake & eat it", "red, white & blue Brexit" and according to The Sun "God will guide my Brexit decisions".
How is May unelected?
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:40
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He embarrassed himself rather then Corbyn IMO.
I agree.

I thought Corbyn's response was the best and most dignified one possible, considering he had no time to prepare and had to think instantly on his feet.
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:41
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But Tatchell's message on the bombing in Syria was clear on his placards and Corbyn just mumbled and prevaricated and could not bring himself to condemn the Russians.

Corbyn just looked and sounded incoherent and about as un-statesmanlike as you could get.
To be fair, as they were all standing with their backs to him he couldn't see what was written on the placards.

Also at the end of the clip he is shown speaking clearly and confidently.
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:45
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To be fair, as they were all standing with their backs to him he couldn't see what was written on the placards.

Also at the end of the clip he is shown speaking clearly and confidently.
I don't agree and he didn't condemn the Russians

And he must have seen the placards when they walked in and surrounded him.
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Old 10-12-2016, 22:57
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When you're protesting Jeremy Corbyn for not being radical enough on foreign policy then you know that you're on the fringes of UK politics.

Seriously, how do these people think that anything will change if they put all their energies into attacking their biggest supporter.
He's not protesting about Corbyn not being radical - he's protesting about Corbyn sticking to his pro-Russia and anti-western action line. Corbyn just reverted to his usual line comparing western action to what Russia is doing, refusing to condemn carpet and chemical bombing, and pathetically suggesting that the answer was a peacefui solution.

The Commons and the Labour party outside its Corbynite front bench are keen on action - starting with aid airdrops . But the reality is that the RAF alone lacks the ability to operate in a Russian, or even Syrian, SAM engagement zone - and Obama isn't willing to act, even with the means.
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Old 10-12-2016, 23:10
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It doesn't seem that long ago that Labour were being slaughtered in the right wing press for defeating Cameron's motion to bomb Syria

They then got slaughtered for only half-heartedly supporting Cameron's motion to bomb Syria the second time he brought it forward

(whatever happened to that 'we must bomb Syria' thing that Cameron kept banging on about ?)

Now they're getting slaughtered for not opposing the bombing of Syria

strange old world.......
Corbyn is being opposed for being a serial Russian stooge, and doing nothing to critiicise Syrian and Russian warcrimes.

the 2013 option was Obama's plan to force the Syrian government to negotiate, and to remove its chemical warfare capability.

The vote to join coalition air operations, was to attack ISIS. There's zero equivalence between allied aircraft - dropping precision guided, small yield .low collateral damage, munitions on terrorist targets ,and the Russian and Syrian airforces and armies chucking unguided barrel bombs, chemical bombs and 3000lb bombs out of aircraft and helicopters over whole city areas. And the sort of heavy, nguided rockets being fired in barrages at towns in Syria were removed from western armed forces a decade ago because their effects were indiscriminate and likely to be illegal..
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Old 10-12-2016, 23:23
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Corbyn is being opposed for being a serial Russian stooge, and doing nothing to critiicise Syrian and Russian warcrimes.

the 2013 option was Obama's plan to force the Syrian government to negotiate, and to remove its chemical warfare capability.

The vote to join coalition air operations, was to attack ISIS. There's zero equivalence between allied aircraft - dropping precision guided, small yield .low collateral damage, munitions on terrorist targets ,and the Russian and Syrian airforces and armies chucking unguided barrel bombs, chemical bombs and 3000lb bombs out of aircraft and helicopters over whole city areas. And the sort of heavy, nguided rockets being fired in barrages at towns in Syria were removed from western armed forces a decade ago because their effects were indiscriminate and likely to be illegal..
I think there's a lot of equivalence

If Cameron had actually ever intended to mount a serious bombing campaign in Syria as opposed to just going through all those Parliamentary charades just to generate anti Labour headlines in the press, it would have been British bombs raining down on Aleppo

That's where ISIS and the other Jihadists were........

You can't bomb a densely populated city like Aleppo without killing people
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