There was a show called Puppetry of the Penis that did tours here & around the world. They also sold dvds, or the dvds were available in shops. They were an Aussie group if I remember rightly.

That show was very popular, I saw it broadcast on tv a few years ago.

Men sometimes expect women to watch porn with them though. Or they view it alone. Whats the difference if a woman bought a dvd?

Years ago I got a ticket to the Sunday Sport roadshow in our town and the Mrs was happy for me to go (was a freebie as someone dropped out last minute), still got the polaroid snap of me with the four ladies in the sock draw and yes the Mrs knows its there as well

The funny thing is that my main memory of the event is the Lindsey Dawn-Mcenzies tits reminded me more of a road map with all the blue veins across them.

I can agree with this. I've never seen the appeal of strippers but I guess some people are still of the mindset that women are just a pair of breasts and a bum and since they don't get to see that normally, then a strip club is like what the top shelf was to teenage boys in the 70's.

Is that what happens?

I have seen one hen do where a stripper was ordered. After stripping off he just produced a bottle of oil which he asked the woman to rub over his body. His back & chest area (Not on his c*** though) That was covered, he stripped down to a thong.
(Not a hen do where I was invited as a guest, but I was present at the venue where it took place)

When i bought my first car i think it was the sport or the sun had sent models round to garages for topless pics and they asked if i wanted to be in the picture...

From what I,m aware, shows aimed at women are usually performed on a stage.
It was popular a few years ago for pubs to have a woman,s night where entry was by ticket to see the Chippendales, Dreamboys or the like.

They would perform on a stage with women sitting at the tables around the pub as usual, with their friends. The only difference on those nights were that male strippers were performing, instead of a regular band. In fact, they were/are very tame.

The strippers didn't do private dances as in a men,s venue, the women didn't put money in their underwear either. In fact they didn't even get close enough to even do that.
After the show, the strippers would be waiting for people to queue up and have a photo taken with them, at a charge before the pub closed.

I;d occasionally visit this pub and sometimes there'd be a random stripper and afterwards they'd go round with an empty pint glass for people to put money in... you know, like a classy joint.

Very classy

Having seen the video I almost understand why the groom went through with it... all his friends crammed into a hotel room, baying and laughing and urging him on. He didn't look as though he enjoyed it at all. Knowing his mates and relatives, I get the feeling that had he refused he would have been taunted relentlessly ever afterwards. You forget how strong peer pressure can be once you leave school, but they were disgusting - drooling, laughing, obviously getting their rocks off without thinking about the groom or the woman involved.
She looked bored and totally disconnected. She had a big 'minder' (pimp?) with her, and I did wonder whether she really wanted to be there. That's what troubles me about stripping. Very few women I imagine would choose it as a career unless there's some underlying reason that causes them to abandon dignity so readily. I felt sorry for her, and the bride too. She'd not long had her third baby, so had she found out I doubt she'd have been able to leave him easily. It would have destroyed her. The whole stripping business is so seedy.


I think most people would!

Oh please...there is nothing wrong with men looking at naked women, nor women looking at naked men...perfectly natural (unless you are insecure) even in a partnership, we are one of a few species that have sex for fun, most other species have sex for reproduction only.

Firstly - this is in a different country so we - all Brits I assume - aren't aware of all the subtleties regarding this story.

One thing that jumped out at me - this wasn't a strip club but, someone's residence. My general impression, an impression I have gleaned from the US responses, is that an 'at home' show is way, way more intimate than a strip club.

It's all good and well for us to judge - but, we don't really know the 'ins and outs'.

Hence the differences between the US and UK responses - US seems to be 'She's right' UK seems to be 'Dump the needy b****'.

Maybe I'm wrong..? But, I'm willing to suspend judgement.

But paying to do so after the age of 15 because a naked body still makes you giggle doesn't sound perfectly natural. I mean do you not see enough boobs or bums otherwise?

I mean looking at a naked human body is natural. Paying a girl to get her tits out in the back room of a pub one night? Not so much.

Every relationship is different, so there's no universal answer, but I wouldn't get a private lapdance, although I have been to stripclubs on stag do's.

I think that I may have missed the memo on this stripper stuff.
Like any red blooded heterosexual man, I think that women are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I would no more pay to see a woman take her clothes off than I would pay to watch cars hurtle along an M-Way.
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I paid to watch some skank strip off in a pub or club, but there again, girl on girl is supposed to be the thing that gets all men turned on, but it does nothing for me.
The thought of it makes me blanch, almost as much as two guys kissing.
I know that it goes on, and good luck to them, live and let live, I have no desire to have it stopped, I just don't want to watch it.

conversation can be awkward, "what a lovely blouse that is you have just taken off"

No, you pay in advance normally, not afterwards.


Who spends £300 in a strip pub/club. Only an idiot IMO.


That's your choice. You sound like a typical feminist that has no idea what really goes on in these places, because I'm willing to bet you've never actually been to a strip pub/club yourself.

You get all sorts of people from all walks of life in these places and much of the time you're not even looking at the girl dancing, but chatting to your mates. You know, it's often a bit of sideline entertainment, because believe it or not most of these men have seen many naked women before, so seen it, done it, got the t-shirt and read the book.


You gather incorrectly.


You're making this up as you go along aren't you.

You're generally going to need a quid/dance and at the bar they are well stocked.


The woman 'dances' on a stage and you're not allowed to touch them in the vast majority of places. If you want a 1-1 lap dance the same rules normally apply and you'll have to pay extra.

Either way, it's not cheating or being unfaithful.

If you want a bit more 1-1 interaction you'll have to go to a private stag party.

Clearly you have no idea. A lot of these women are better looking than an average girlfriend you or me are likely to meet, so no skanks allowed. All of the girls have to go through an audition for the agency, like applying for a job.

Therefore they have to well presented, clean, be able to dance (including around a pole) in order to get the job. You're not normally going to get any girls that are on the gear (at the time), looking rough etc.

My mate doesn't like his wife going to strip clubs.
But she is earning more than she did at Tesco....

Indeed. Some of these girls are students, i.e. very intelligent and it's a way of paying off their course fees/loans.

A few years later they'll probably be sitting behind a desk, using a PC.

I find there tends to be double standards with some when it comes to this sort of thing. When men do it, it's seedy and pervy. When Women do it, it's only a bit of fun.

Personally it doesn't bother me. My missus has been to a few on hen nights and it's mostly harmless by the sounds of it. However getting the bride to be to lick whipped cream off someone's todger is probably crossing the line.

Assuming the husband was merely an onlooker, and went to the club with the group, I don't see any particular problem, though I can understand some women wouldn't even like the idea of their partner seeing other women naked.

That said, any stag doo that enters a strip club (I would think) do so knowing full well that they're going there to do more than look. It was mentioned earlier, but it takes a certain type of person to go to a strip club on their stag doo, and arguably if a groom willingly goes to one and gets involved, there's a higher (not always guaranteed) chance that he'd consider playing away in the future.

If such a time comes when I ever get married, I'd rather go on some sort of adventure with a few drinks than an expensive night shoving notes down the thongs of dancers. I don't get this whole last night of freedom thought either; if those are the thoughts that are going through your mind on your stag/hen doo, you probably shouldn't be getting married in the first place.

I have always thought that.

If you are going to be lucky enough to marry the person that you love then why treat it as an upcoming prison sentence?

It made far more sense in decades long past when many a couple had never even slept with each other (waiting for the fabled marriage night) - but all seems a bit archaic now.

Unlikely to be the student job of choice for future lawyers, accountants, bankers or politicians though, is it. In fact many careers would be halted in their tracks by that on your CV, Facebook, or subsequent discovery. Right or wrong, that's how it is. My daughter was given an introductory talk about uni life, finance, jobs etc, which specifically warned about such things, for those without the prior knowledge. Sugar daddies are also frowned upon. That tells you how the wider society still views strippers. Double standards of course, as the male bosses are probably the punters, but there it is.
For the record, I'd feel seedy, shitty and guilty even if I stumbled upon a pub stripper by accident. Never seen one, have positively avoided it all my life, and don't intent to start now. I'm sure my wife sees it in much the same light.

I take your point jra, you are presumably talking about the more 'upmarket' type of establishment, like Spearmint Rhino etc.
I would no more go in one of those places, or any strip joint/pole dancing/lap dancing place, than I'd go to a Ku-Klux-Klan rally, on the basis that those joints are for losers, who care little what others think of them, if they're seen entering one.
When I said skanks, I was thinking about seedy boozers that I'd sneak into about 35-40 years ago in my very early teens, where soapy young girls with saggy boobs would appear on a raised platform, and disrobe clumsily to old Elvis Presley records, then walk around with a see-through robe on, collecting money in a hat from their equally soapy admirers.
I stopped sneaking into them after a while, as I couldn't stand the thought that the skanks were looking at me with pity, thinking, "How low can that kid get, coming in here to part with money, as it's the only way he'll get to see a naked woman."

I have been to stripclubs on stag-do's before and worked the doors on them, but I'd never pay for a private dance.