Naïve maybe...
I didn't know these sort of pubs even existed until I saw a review for one in East London!

"I'm just going down the pub for a few pints" might not be as innocent as it sounds...

It maybe pretty sad both ways, but I think your,ll find the getting off part of it, is usually one sided. For the other side, its more a matter of acting hoping that particular performance ends asap.

True. Think we've been married too long so if he wanted 20 mins of fantasy at some club I'd be fine with that. I'll just stick to the laundry. The thankless arse.

I always thought that men who went to strip clubs alone were potential Yorkshire Ripper-types, whereas men who went to them in groups were ones who all labour under the mistaken belief that an overt demonstration of masculine vulgarity and bravado proves to each other that they're not gay. I think any girl or woman should be worried if their boyfriend or husband goes to a strip club, if only because it confirms that they're shacked up with a tosser.

I was replying to a poster who said these women were better looking than the average wife or girlfriend and seemed to imply that's why men went to them. I don't think I'd stay with a man who felt like that - I'd free him to pursue his dream

For the record - yes indeed there was sawdust on the floor.

The Earl de Grey was infamous around the world in it's historic heyday - it was basically a knocking shop for all of the roughest sailors on the planet.

Lol. Interesting theory however I have been aware of that for some time.

Mine certainly doesn't demonstrate his masculinity with all the quaint little tearoom visiting.

I think a lot of guys who visit aren't particularly boorish 'get 'em out' lads but are just regular guys on Stag or Lads Nights and aren't particularly OTT nor particularly aroused. They just go for the craic on a night out because that's sometimes what they do.

I reckon a lot of stags, etc behave better than the women I've seen with a male stripper. Gawd that's loud. And so forced. Wah-hey, willies, g'wan ye boy ye, keep er lit, etc. Same with Ann Summers' parties. Once you've been to one you've been to them all.

Yep, I have no desire to have some gross mans knob shoved in my face and wonder at the sanity of those who do.

One of my exes got invited to a male stripper show and was so worried about going she told me and said she doesn't have to go if I didn't want her to, it was quite cute. I didn't have any problem with it.

...Her going that is, not the male strip show thing. I'm not into that...

Not even at Christmas?

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You just reminded me of the father in High Society movie who tells his daughter that his philandering with a young starlet has nothing to do with anyone but him....selfish heartless git.

Realistically, you wouldn't do that or on Twitter for that matter, as those sorts of social networking sites are the first port of call for prospective employers doing a bit of doxing.

My boyfriend went to a strip club with friends early in our relationship. He was going to tell me about it, then freaked out when it came to it because he thought I might be mad. His gay friend mentioned it inadvertently later, and he only knew because my boyfriend had been texting him bored out of his mind the whole time they were in there – for a minute, I thought I had a different problem on my hands!

If he were taken as part of a stag party, I wouldn’t be that bothered, but I wouldn’t want him to have a dance, or go for his own. There are lots of beautiful half naked women in normal clubs, and paying to watch one is just tacky.

No. I'm talking about places in the Hackney/Shoreditch/Aldgate area. Easy Google. Go to Browns or The Horns for example. You'll see a couple of dozen gorgeous completely naked women. Just get it out of your system and chill out. As I've said before, life's too short to be a prude and/or be judgemental about other people's lifestyles you don't approve of. It's about having a bit of fun with no consequences.

Why don't you ask them?

I'm not your 'go to' guy regarding steady/long term relationships. It's not my bag, so I prefer the more casual/short term type encounter. Works for me, maybe not for you. Not until I meet my perfect woman.

We've heard far too much intimate detail about your sex life previously, so I'm glad you kept it short this time.

I've seen strippers at hen partys a few times. Mainly fireman/policeman thing were they get the bride to be in a chair and dance all over her, get her to rub their chest that kind of thing. No willys though (thank goodness). Stag needs have the same kind of thing I know, but I'm also aware of a couple of stag nights I've heard about from the builders. Both had strippers where the groom to be was again put in a chair but his body parts were grabbed and he was encouraged to grab the strippers boobs/arse even vagina in one and in the other he was dragged off for "private time". If that were my groom to be I wouldn't be happy.

You wouldn't be happy, but if he was happy doing all those things, would you still marry him?

I was asking him but you replied! Not that I'm complaining about you airing your views but I do agree that you're not my go-to guy for anything.

It's like going for a super car day or track day.

Your husband / partner might like the thrill of that Ferrari for that hour but much prefer driving his Mondeo when he gets home.

Don't be too harsh on him.

It's totally acceptable imo

Not even worth a worrying thought

Unless if you have relationship issues of course, or trust issues, in which case you probably shouldn't be in a relationship anyway

I've only ever been to strip joints in a group or for a stag etc, never interested in dances, got stunning fiancé at home, happy just getting drinks from the bar and chatting with the lads, certainly not places I'd choose to go, but if we are out and some guys want to go, then fair enough

Just so happens there's naked women walking around

We all perv, wether it's walking down the street at an attractive male/female, in a club, or down the supermarket, strip clubs no different

And don't you deny it people! Doesn't mean you love your partner less or find them less attractive, just means your human

Only becomes unacceptable if you break that loyalty/trust

Unless your in an open relationship

Well, I know Browns, in Hackney Rd., I've walked past it on my way to The Birdcage pub in Columbia Road a few times, but I haven't been in there.
I could be way out of line here, but I get the vague suspicion that you think that I'd love to have the courage to go in these places to see naked women, but don't have the stones to do it.
Well IF you think that, you're wrong, neither am I a prude, and I have nothing to get out of my system.
I've seen plenty of naked women thanks, but I've never had to pay for the privilege, and if thinking guys that do pay to see naked women are wired a bit wrongly makes me judgmental, then I'm sorry, but so be it.
In closing, I DON'T disapprove of the lifestyle of the girls, or the guys who pay to look at them, I just have zero need to join in the "fun with no consequences."

Builders hey, maybe not all 100% true then!

No offence mean't builders of DS.

There will be establishments somewhere who have a willy licence and a stripper or two who get it out. My Auntie went to one of those.

Shouldn't the Bride never find out what happens on a stag do? Like some unwritten law?

I disagree. I don't think it's necessarily a matter of trust or any other issue. It can just be very uncomfortable to imagine your partner around naked women, even if you know they would never cheat. I wouldn't be in a relationship with someone I didn't trust, but I can't say I'd be happy with them watching men/women stripping and dancing.

Also, for those who say it's no problem, as long as they can tell their partner where they've been, then fair play. Any activity that a person feels they need to hide from their partner, that's usually a sign you shouldn't be doing it.