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I love how people who plainly have no idea what they are talking about criticise the judges' marking!
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Just think what will happen if Ore makes the final now
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Loved it. There was some bloody amazing footwork which was ludicrously in sync with Jo and that lift to stop was eye popping.
Second favourite dance of the night after Claudia's quickstep. |
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As Craig pointed out a few weeks ago and has now seemingly forgotten all about it, the AT is action and reaction - the lady reacts to the man. He sets up her move. Ore did absolutely no action for Jo to respond to, it was all her doing. Ore just followed like a lost puppy, standing there as a sort of maypole for Jo. How can the judges react like it was this sizzling AT when it was plainly nothing of the sort? Even the audience reaction was a bit flat. It was a 7/8 at best.
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I didn't like it, I guess its one of those subjective things really. For me it was just a bit 'meh', kind of kept waiting for it to start properly if that makes sense and it never did, then again I didn't like their Paso either! I think Ore is better in ballroom.
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To be honest thats pretty what men in real AT do do. The lead is from subtle movements in the torso which is more like distributing energy than any movement you can see. The viewer won't necesarily see the man lead but the follower feels it and responds. It is perfectly possible for a man to lead AT without moving off the spot.
I am not saying that is what Ore did do only that it is possible within the style for a man to lead the dance from a stand still. However in an AT round of a competition I am expecting to see the SCD competitiors perform the basic skill of Argentine Tango walks and Ore didn't, but then nor did Danny or Claudia. ( I have forgotten Lousies's) I think my favourites from previous years are probably either Mark and Karen or maybe Simon and Kristina? |
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It was better than I thought they managed to supprise me and pull it off& therefore I hope their through the choregogrophy was brilliant& Ore executed it greatly
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As Craig pointed out a few weeks ago and has now seemingly forgotten all about it, the AT is action and reaction - the lady reacts to the man. He sets up her move. Ore did absolutely no action for Jo to respond to, it was all her doing. Ore just followed like a lost puppy, standing there as a sort of maypole for Jo. How can the judges react like it was this sizzling AT when it was plainly nothing of the sort? Even the audience reaction was a bit flat. It was a 7/8 at best.
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Just trying too hard!
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Me too, and boy was it intense. LOVED it.
I am not sure what I preferred that opening sequence of the AT or Oti throwing herself into Danny's arms.
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Joanne should've choreographed a better dance for him.
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Dance content? Ganchos?
Somewhat conspicuous by their absence. Joanne did a sterling job of doing lots of things whilst Ore acted as her 'pole'. Doesn't constitute an AT to my way of thinking. |
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Just think it was all Joanne and not much of Ore. although that seems the general trend for all three Cliftons.
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Oh dear, another Ore bashing thread, how predictable.
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It's not about bashing Ore, when all he seemed to do was strut about with Joanne spinning about around him.
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I thought his performance skills were very good, he really gets into character. The lifts were also very good, but I thought his posture was bad, his shoulders seemed hunched for a lot of the routine and he did lose his balance as Craig pointed out. I think it should've been scored 9s rather than 10s.
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I thought Danny and Claudia's AT's were better than Ore's but your right all the Argentine Tango's have been rather lacking this season.
I think my favourites from previous years are probably either Mark and Karen or maybe Simon and Kristina? |
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I prefered either of those or Aliona and the boy band guy. But in my opinion, really there is only one SCD AT worthy of its name and that was Vincent and Rachel.
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Good call but, I would argue Natalie and Ricky's would give just edge them out of first place. No bias as Rachel is my favourite ever female contestant.
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I'm with Ann, Vincent and Rachel did the best. Easily.
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Joanne should've choreographed a better dance for him.
Ore acted like a lonely lamp post, led not one single move and was just a convenient leaning apparatus and lifting 'person' for Madame Snarlsville. Neither one did a single tango walk (the basis of all tango0 and neither one used the floor properly. We do not stomp in tango, we glide seamlessly and everything is led by the man with additions from the follower when she feels like it. It was hilarious and awful. Poor Ore
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I prefered either of those or Aliona and the boy band guy. But in my opinion, really there is only one SCD AT worthy of its name and that was Vincent and Rachel.
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Dance content? Ganchos?
Somewhat conspicuous by their absence. Joanne did a sterling job of doing lots of things whilst Ore acted as her 'pole'. Doesn't constitute an AT to my way of thinking. She did not allow him to lead at any point, just lift her when required. Dire. |
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I don't think she was capable of doing that. She mangled that AT by dancing it in the ballroom style with much snarling and murderous looks, did all her own adornos and ganchos without reference to Ore and danced it like a harpy with a migraine and a bad attitude. She doesn't get it. Tsk!
Ore acted like a lonely lamp post, led not one single move and was just a convenient leaning apparatus and lifting 'person' for Madame Snarlsville. Neither one did a single tango walk (the basis of all tango0 and neither one used the floor properly. We do not stomp in tango, we glide seamlessly and everything is led by the man with additions from the follower when she feels like it. It was hilarious and awful. Poor Ore ![]() |
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Seconded by a diehard AT dancer! Moi!
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