Manipulated to keep Ore in?

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shrinkingviolet

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by sinbad22uk:
“Like I said deluded, if you know anyything about balleoom dancing you would know that nobody wver reaches those standards so quick from being a complete novice”

What standards - there are threads on here saying he was over marked and rubbish and they have to fix it to get him through. So what is it - is he rubbish and shouldn't be sharing a stage with the other celebs or a super secret ringah who out ringers even Louise and Danny?

thenetworkbabe

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by sinbad22uk:
“As I said you know nothing about dance, the marks were about poltical correctness not dancing . Thing is it shouldnt matter if final is all black or ll white or a mixture. Everyone is the same and deserve to be marked that way, I think the PC brigade are the most racist of all”

the political problem is what hit them after the first few weeks -when all the other minority contestants left one after another. it would have been very bad for the BBC if he had followed, and good if they can say he made the final.

They have however made the problem potentilaly worse for themselves though if they mark him top and he still gets in the dance off. The intent would be to get a Claudia - Louise dance off which strats as a draw in the leaderboard , and they cna give anyway they fancy.

Katenutzs

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“With the tie and with Ore probably at the bottom of the public vote he will probably still be in the DO. The overmarking was perhaps just so they could easily justify saving him.”

My thoughts exactly

Rhumbatugger

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“the political problem is what hit them after the first few weeks -when all the other minority contestants left one after another. it would have been very bad for the BBC if he had followed, and good if they can say he made the final.

They have however made the problem potentilaly worse for themselves though if they mark him top and he still gets in the dance off. The intent would be to get a Claudia - Louise dance off which strats as a draw in the leaderboard , and they cna give anyway they fancy.”

Oh for Gawd's sake.

The last straw clutch.

Rhumbatugger

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“What standards - there are threads on here saying he was over marked and rubbish and they have to fix it to get him through. So what is it - is he rubbish and shouldn't be sharing a stage with the other celebs or a super secret ringah who out ringers even Louise and Danny?”

I'm wearing double tinfoil headgear at the moment.

Moany Liza

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by steff0202:
“Why would it be manipulated for Ore to get through? The winners get a plastic trophy, honesty it's not a competition of significant importance is it???”

Indeed.

Something that an awful lot of people apparently lose sight of.

BethnalGreen

10-12-2016

Is that your argument? I am deluded and you are not? You might be the one that is deluded sunshine. You need to learn to debate your argument and not insult people

shrinkingviolet

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Oh for Gawd's sake.

The last straw clutch.”

I thought people would stoop to find new ways to bash him, I didn't expect them to go that low.

Moany Liza

10-12-2016

Looks like a lot of people have overdosed on lemons this evening.

thenetworkbabe

10-12-2016

I think we have seen progression from nothing much to excellence on Strictly - if not for some years ,There's also people who have added the other components to a useful starting skill . Claudia has a real journey story . But Ore's performances have been up and down - although his marks haven't reflected the down some weeks. And his big leap forward came relatively early, and was a very big leap for someone who hadn't learnt that dance before. Since then, If you discount the judges gushing over his acting, its far from clear there's been much progress.

Facechild

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“His AT wasn't that good. Giving it three tens was a joke! Certainly Danny and Claudia danced better than him tonight, yet Ore is sitting top of the leader board.

He'e been in the DO twice and probably would have gone home tonight. Nice bit of manipulation there.”

Couldn't disagree more.....smacks of sour grapes to me. The judges know what they are talking about. The fact that they have been in the dance off twice is no reflection on his skill or artistry but more to do with the popular vote. Whatever happens now Ore has been a total inspiration this series. It ain't over till it's over. Go Ore!

JohnStannard

10-12-2016

he was great tonight. I don't think he was better than Danny but I don't think its manipulated to keep him in

thenetworkbabe

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Oh for Gawd's sake.

The last straw clutch.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...sm-row-9060174
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7365866.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/1...acist-say-bbc/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/strictly/...Laura-Whitmore
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...sations-racism
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...t-slams-Brexit
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...liminated.html

Do you really think that weeks of headlines like those, in literally all the papers, wouldn't have an impact ?

Rhumbatugger

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“I think we have seen progression from nothing much to excellence on Strictly - if not for some years ,There's also people who have added the other components to a useful starting skill . Claudia has a real journey story . But Ore's performances have been up and down - although his marks haven't reflected the down some weeks. And his big leap forward came relatively early, and was a very big leap for someone who hadn't learnt that dance before. Since then, If you discount the judges gushing over his acting, its far from clear there's been much progress.”

Some dances he found easier and more natural than others.

Same for all beginners.

Sherlock_Holmes

10-12-2016

Just bumping this one up a notch.

postit

10-12-2016

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“the political problem is what hit them after the first few weeks -when all the other minority contestants left one after another. it would have been very bad for the BBC if he had followed, and good if they can say he made the final.

They have however made the problem potentilaly worse for themselves though if they mark him top and he still gets in the dance off. The intent would be to get a Claudia - Louise dance off which strats as a draw in the leaderboard , and they cna give anyway they fancy.”

Minority contestants. Uh huh

Olivia_P

10-12-2016

Absolutely. Manipulation at its best (or worst). Len's farewell gift to his buddies.
The entire script was tested in the past. It allowed the judges to bring their favorite to the final and turn the fans of the people's favorites against each other.

sonic157

10-12-2016

He should not have been at the top of the leaderboard or given the last spot for both dances. It was designed to make sure he reached the final but blame the producers not the judges.

Pink Knight

10-12-2016

Despite Claudia having to do a Rumba, Ore's Agentine Tango was the worst dance of the night.
It must have looked different in the studio to someone posturing about. That's all I saw.Oh and a lift or two. Big deal

curvybabes

10-12-2016

Ore barely moved in that AT the judges should be ashamed of the marks they gave.

MACTOWIN

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“Ore barely moved in that AT the judges should be ashamed of the marks they gave.”

The judges tonight manipulated the scores imo to suit their agenda and are beyond pathetic.

curvybabes

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“The judges tonight manipulated the scores imo to suit their agenda and are beyond pathetic.”

Exactly and they say BB is fixed

*Laura*

11-12-2016

What I don't understand with threads like these is that the dancer who really isn't a "dirty ringah" is getting loadsa flack.

Danny (who I think is phenomenal) is obviously a trained dancer.
Louise was a judge for a dance competition and also has some previous experience.
Claudia (who I also love) has used her gymnastic skills very cleverly - just like Louis did.

Yet the guy who has had no training, and has put in some excellent routines is the one who this forum singles out every single week. With the exception of Louise I thought it was a pretty close semi-final and any of the three could have topped the leader board. So for it to be the one with the least experience is pretty good in my book. Well done Ore, tonight reminded of the old SCD where a gifted amateur takes up ballroom dancing and gives us all a treat.

MACTOWIN

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“What I don't understand with threads like these is that the dancer who really isn't a "dirty ringah" is getting loadsa flack.

Danny (who I think is phenomenal) is obviously a trained dancer.
Louise was a judge for a dance competition and also has some previous experience.
Claudia (who I also love) has used her gymnastic skills very cleverly - just like Louis did.

Yet the guy who has had no training, and has put in some excellent routines is the one who this forum singles out every single week. With the exception of Louise I thought it was a pretty close semi-final and any of the three could have topped the leader board. So for it to be the one with the least experience is pretty good in my book. Well done Ore, tonight reminded of the old SCD where a gifted amateur takes up ballroom dancing and gives us all a treat. ”

I am sorry but how do we know that Ore has never had Private Dance lessons.

Domestos

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by SueDevon:
“Yeah, that's what James Jordan is saying”

In which case I would take no notice at all. He's a grade A petulant arse who has never forgiven the Clifton for stealing his and Ola's thunder.

Originally Posted by B_OR:
“I have talked to some pro dancers I know on the phone and they all ranked Ore last in both dances. I do not know what the judges were watching.”

I wonder what your pro dancing mates were watching then as patently his dances were not the worst of the night.

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