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View Poll Results: Courtney or Jessica to win?
Jessica 29 70.73%
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Old 11-12-2016, 21:19
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I have no bias because I don't know him - but I have seen and heard him on my screen and my opinion is that he is totally useless.
There's a famous psychologist who goes on (perhaps a bit too much) about how if you go into a situation with a pre-determined outcome thought up in your head, you will get that outcome.

Perhaps bias was the wrong word for it.

I mean you haven't replied to the part where the show has literally proven his 'ideas' have been the main reason that his team has won on multiple occasions so I won't post anymore. Hope you aren't too disappointed next week when he doesn't get fired!
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Old 11-12-2016, 21:59
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There's a famous psychologist who goes on (perhaps a bit too much) about how if you go into a situation with a pre-determined outcome thought up in your head, you will get that outcome.

Perhaps bias was the wrong word for it.

I mean you haven't replied to the part where the show has literally proven his 'ideas' have been the main reason that his team has won on multiple occasions so I won't post anymore. Hope you aren't too disappointed next week when he doesn't get fired!
Obviously you have not read what I said - I do not have a "pre-determined " of anything - I have seen him every week and every week he has been the same.

And with regards to his team winning other tasks as far as I am concerned it is in spite of him.

Also, as I have said in a few posts there is every chance he will win and if you read my posts you will see why.
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Old 12-12-2016, 00:31
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Neither. Alana for me.
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Old 12-12-2016, 00:32
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Because he's a man.

The feminists are really coming out in full force recently.
Piffle.
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Old 12-12-2016, 01:10
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[quote=Cats_Eyes;84865564]One thing is for certain - no big suppliers would stock any of his rubbish.[/QUOTEN

Not so, Paperchase already stock his emoji post it notes!

I think he's in with a chance. He sells over a hundred novelty products on his website - that's going to appeal to Sugar more than Grainne, who is just a make up artist, or even Alana with her basic six cakes.
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Old 12-12-2016, 17:41
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One thing is for certain - no big suppliers would stock any of his rubbish.
You mean suppliers such as chains of retail stores with over 200 shops?
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Old 12-12-2016, 21:26
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[quote=Zarla;84870284]
One thing is for certain - no big suppliers would stock any of his rubbish.[/QUOTEN

Not so, Paperchase already stock his emoji post it notes!

I think he's in with a chance. He sells over a hundred novelty products on his website - that's going to appeal to Sugar more than Grainne, who is just a make up artist, or even Alana with her basic six cakes.


I was more thinking of major players.

Also I note you have again mentioned Alana with the inference that it is a low key operation as though it is a criticism and if so I don't follow the logic of that because she, and all the others ,currently have low key operations - which is why they have all gone into this process and to look for investment of £250,000 with a big partner who may well be able open many doors and therefore allow them to expand their business.

Also, other posters have said that Sugar would have no interest in this that and the other plan but I should have thought it would be the person he would be looking at to see if that person intelligent and determined to take their business to a higher level because at the only of the day almost all plans he will see have already been done by others because the wheel has already been invented. So he needs a inventive and dynamic person.

I, like many others, have said that the candidates we have here are poor - and they are - but in more recent times Alana has come to the party and I for one think she is very good and could fit the bill.

Jessica ticks a rew of these boxes but I think she is a loose cannon and not enough stable and Courtney - for me at least - ticks no boxes.

If I was investing my money would be on Alana.
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:41
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[quote=Cats_Eyes;84878978]

[/b] I was more thinking of major players.

Also I note you have again mentioned Alana with the inference that it is a low key operation as though it is a criticism and if so I don't follow the logic of that because she, and all the others ,currently have low key operations - which is why they have all gone into this process and to look for investment of £250,000 with a big partner who may well be able open many doors and therefore allow them to expand their business.

Also, other posters have said that Sugar would have no interest in this that and the other plan but I should have thought it would be the person he would be looking at to see if that person intelligent and determined to take their business to a higher level because at the only of the day almost all plans he will see have already been done by others because the wheel has already been invented. So he needs a inventive and dynamic person.

I, like many others, have said that the candidates we have here are poor - and they are - but in more recent times Alana has come to the party and I for one think she is very good and could fit the bill.

Jessica ticks a rew of these boxes but I think she is a loose cannon and not enough stable and Courtney - for me at least - ticks no boxes.

If I was investing my money would be on Alana.
Fair enough, you would invest in a mail-order cake business with no original cakes in the line up of six, all generic names like brownies and a flapjack. I would follow the example of Paperchase and invest in Courtney. He said in the Final Five that he knows he could get other investors, but he wants Lord Sugar. He came across as by far the strongest contender in the Final Five programme tonight.

People here are judging him because he dried up during the gin pitch, even though the gin buyers were far more interested in the product than the quality of the pitch and bought 3000 bottles. Frances pitched well but the product was ridiculous, with a name that showed zero sensitivity towards a modern, culturally diverse market.



Some people are natural public speakers, but the companies aren't looking to invest in a public speaker, they want to invest in products.
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Old 14-12-2016, 06:48
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In the gin task, Jessica became frustrated at Courtney's indecision about the names -- but said that previously Courtney had been brilliant.

Courtney does seem to fade in and out of tasks, whether through lack of interest or plain exhaustion. His prospects may depend on whether he is awake or asleep for the interviews.

It wouldn't surprise me if he won -- as I've said before, his current business (which is not necessarily what his business plan is based on) is Sugar-friendly as it is a nano-scale version of how Amstrad functioned.
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Old 14-12-2016, 07:01
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[quote=Zarla;84890604]

People here are judging him because he dried up during the gin pitch, even though the gin buyers were far more interested in the product than the quality of the pitch and bought 3000 bottles. Frances pitched well but the product was ridiculous, with a name that showed zero sensitivity towards a modern, culturally diverse market.

Some people are natural public speakers, but the companies aren't looking to invest in a public speaker, they want to invest in products.
I've never pitched anything but I have been pitched at for 6- or 7-figure contracts, and I think there is a lot in what you say. Pitches can sometimes seem too smooth, although Courtney seemed keen to test this to destruction. Even the self-proclaimed good pitchers on The Apprentice often talk fluently about irrelevant drivel -- in this task, for instance, why would any retailer care that a gin had been created by "three friends"?
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Old 16-12-2016, 16:58
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Thank you for ruining last nights programme for me.

As soon as you posted that I thought 'He must know' I was hoping against hope you were just guessing- but you posted in a way that implied you knew for sure Courtney would reach the final.

Some of us deliberately avoid the spoiler thread, because we do not want to know in advance.
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Old 16-12-2016, 17:04
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Thank you for ruining last nights programme for me.

As soon as you posted that I thought 'He must know' I was hoping against hope you were just guessing- but you posted in a way that implied you knew for sure Courtney would reach the final.

Some of us deliberately avoid the spoiler thread, because we do not want to know in advance.
Yeah sorry you got it ruined for you my friend.
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Old 16-12-2016, 18:00
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[quote=Zarla;84890604]

Fair enough, you would invest in a mail-order cake business with no original cakes in the line up of six, all generic names like brownies and a flapjack. I would follow the example of Paperchase and invest in Courtney. He said in the Final Five that he knows he could get other investors, but he wants Lord Sugar. He came across as by far the strongest contender in the Final Five programme tonight.

People here are judging him because he dried up during the gin pitch, even though the gin buyers were far more interested in the product than the quality of the pitch and bought 3000 bottles. Frances pitched well but the product was ridiculous, with a name that showed zero sensitivity towards a modern, culturally diverse market.



Some people are natural public speakers, but the companies aren't looking to invest in a public speaker, they want to invest in products.

He is inarticulate and he isn't a grown up, he hasn't left home he doesn't even do his own clothes washing.
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Old 16-12-2016, 19:05
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He is inarticulate and he isn't a grown up, he hasn't left home he doesn't even do his own clothes washing.
Too busy uploading pics of others' designs to his website
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:30
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These polls are pointless, because there is NO WAY Courtney will be in final.
looks like you misspelt "Jessica"
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:36
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I like Courtney's business idea more then the others but I don't particularly find him engaging. To be honest I don't care who wins this year
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Old 17-12-2016, 17:21
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These polls are pointless, because there is NO WAY Courtney will be in final.
Are you sure about that ?
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Old 20-12-2016, 07:03
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Another vote for Jessica
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