https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/237444...single-market/

ANOTHER legal challenge to Brexit

FFS, will Brexit ever get off the ground? it will be stuck in legal battles for years.. seems the high court ruling has made any tom, dick and harry with a few bob to fancy their chances thinking they can thwart Brexit everytime it looks like it will get off ground..

I'm not sure if Brexit will ever happen now.. losing hope rapidly. And if we do get Brexit like Mr. Farage says I suspect a Soft Brexit.. waiting for 2020 really is probably Brexiteers best bet for change...

And it all sounded so simple as well!!!

They are paying the price for a completely botched process, They left open so many loopholes, so many grey areas that, yes, it will be held up for years. Not something I agree with by the way.

I am quite hopeful actually that Brexit will go through on time, people are more likely to get fed up with the people trying to stop it, rather than anything else.

I am also more than ever hopeful how we will more forward from here.....I learned something on the daily politics this week, apparently since 2008 the US has grown 15percent, we have grown 8 percent, the Eurozone has flatlined.....I think we are in good shape to carry things forward, and encourage more firms to come here rather than leave this country, because we have the ability to put our country first in the policies we make instead of just being one of the 27....with a 3.5 percent say......

The trouble is there are some people in this country that don't want us to succeed out of the EU(and are frightened for some reason if we do), so the legal challenges and still down talking even positive UK news, is aimed at making people worry to try and change their mind, down talking didn't work before the referendum and for the vast majority of leavers it wont work now, just make you more determined to see it through.

China grew more than anyone so by they logic we should become a one party communist autocratic state

Wait that's what is happening lol

Maybe there should be a legal challenge for Brexit to be renamed "The Shambles That Destroyed Britain".

Odd that the always impartial Sun is claiming May "hopes for a clean Brexit" when everything she's done has been a bigger bungle than anything we ever saw on Rainbow.

And why does the article claim "Remainers" are blocking, then further down admits "The latest claimants — one a Remainer and the other a Brexiter"?

That's a 50-50 split, not "Remainers".

So just another one of Murdoch's media lie machines in action again.

David Cameron probably done it on purpose as he didn't believe in losing.. though that's hardly fair for the 17M people who voted Leave for it to be sabotaged by one man's incompetence for making sure this situation never arises..

2020 will be interesting, with people's anger and desperate for change..

So, 'not on the ballot paper' is the primary reasoning? It didn't say soft or hard either, it didn't mention EEA or EFTA or CETA or Norway, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Customs Unions, drawbridges, walls, shark pits, cup cakes, crumbly candy bars, it's incredible isn't it...

Unless they are talking about the campaigning and I'm reasonably sure both sides were talking about brexit meaning we wouldn't be in the EU Single Market or at the very least not in the same way, and even the government's leaflet was saying we should stay in the EU because of the advantages of the EU Single Market.

Even if there had not been explicit statements from both sides that leaving the EU meant leaving the EUSM, I don't see how there could have been any doubt in anyone's minds that no longer being a member of the EU would result in a major change in our relationship with the EUSM, and given that we don't govern by direct referendum, the decision was to leave and for the politicians to sort out the details as per the normal process of the 'representative' bit.

This major change in our relationship with the EUSM would depend entirely on what sort of agreement or arrangement could be reached with the EU, and whether that would mean 'in', or 'part of', or 'trade with', or 'member of', or 'visible if you have a step-ladder', would be subject to negotiation.

Everytime Brexit looks like it has a clear path, there is another obstacle put in the way, another legal challenge or loophole..

The high court ruling has opened the door for more challenges, sadly.

It's almost as if leaving the EU is such a monumental change, affecting almost every facet of British law, society, business - that lots of people feel that the government should give it proper consideration rather than saying "right, we're leaving, no single market" on the basis of a handful of votes and without even having a plan to do it.

Are you saying that we shouldn'r be allowed the right to use the legal system for what it was intended to do? That said, Brexshitters seem to think that judges shouldn't be allowed to question the government's "plan", and they don't think MPs should get a say on it either.

Thing is, if you was the EU would you give us a good deal if you knew that was happening in said country? the UK want to be bold and aggressive in negotiations, but all these challenges are making it difficult to get the best deal.. so like Nigel says I reckon we will get screwed and end up in a situation where nobody is happy. 2020 is what we should look forward to if we want change as some party will offer that.

Yes, because the UK *was* seen as a haven. We were somewhat more insulated from the Euro crisis, while still having freedom of movement and full access to the single market.

We're now preparing to tear all that up.

Given the UK's numerous special deals with the EU, its "say" is considerably more than 3.5%. It'll be 0% if we leave - and we'll still be affected by the laws the EU makes even if we are not in it. Good job, Brexshitters!

"nobody is happy" was going to occur anyway. Anything less than what we have today would piss off the 48% (probably more now) of remainers, and since there is no unified leave position, then varying amounts of leavers will be pissed off because we won't literally pull up the drawbridges and kick out everyone who doesn't have a British passport. Others will be pissed off if we decide to pay for access to the single market.

Either way, a majority of voters will be pissed off.

It's also about good leadership that unites the country, and Mrs May is an unelected Leader.

A good leader has a plan, makes a decision and sticks to it no matter what as they believe in it that it will eventually bear fruit. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Not when a snap election is called. Prepare yourself!

A great leader is willing to acknowledge that things are going wrong and to change that plan in the face of evidence. "sticking to the plan" is just bloody-mindedness and results in a poor outcome for everyone.

May hasn't demonstrated great leadership. Even as Home Sec she ignored evidence that was contrary to her position (drugs law reform).

We're still waiting to hear what Brexit actually means - other than "Brexit" and "red white and blue". She doesn't even have a plan to stick to...

Nobody likes change at first, but it is about riding that wave and making it a success eventually that defines a true Leader by putting their neck on the line that'll it come good.

If a strong leader kept changing their plans or backing down everytime people got a little worried, we would never achieve anything as they will constantly flip-flop. Look at all the great leaders in history to see that - don't you think they faced hostility and worry from people initially?

The problem is that no-one can come up with a plan that will make Brexit a success.

Having the perfect artificial foot after you've blown yours off isn't a "success", not is winning a Paralympic gold. Both are just making the best of a bad job. Not what I want for my country.

It's a case of making the country work best for everyone though. So in some areas we will suffer, but in some areas we will be better off and more balance might be had.

And knows knows, trading globally might make it even a bigger success as if the UK is successful do you really think Germany will refuse to trade with us? the car businesses there won't ave' it.

A good leader would risk their reputation and PM ship on making it a success of us leaving the EU.. but doing it THEIR way instead of trying to please everyone like May is trying to do. She is an unelected leader and campaigned for Remain as part of Cameron's team so it's natural to face these obstacles.. but that's why 2020 is interesting.

In what areas will we be better off?

We already trade globally now. Not sure how doing something we already do counts as a "bigger success".

I cannot think of a "their way" to make a success of Brexit. Nor can anyone else, least of all May.

I don't have the answers, I'm not mystic meg, but neither do people know we will be worse off hence all them doom reports saying STRAIGHT after the referendum vote if we voted Leave it would be a recession.. which DIDN'T happen. Yet people believe the doom reports that when we leave? why?

It's because people fear Change, I'll tell you why. They eat it up to stay in their comfort zones. But a good leader would transmit confidence/inspire/swagger ala Trump. I think he is doing a better job at uniting the US after their vote than May is us after Brexit..

We will be totally fine leaving the EU, and things like controlling our borders and making our own rules is something people want and prepared to risk losing a bit in some areas like Trade etc to get a more balance that works for EVERYONE. Simple.

You will have been saved from getting poorer. You should welcome as many delays as possible. Brexit will be bad for Britain.

Nor does May, nor does anyone, There is no answer as to how you can be better off with your foot blown off.

That's not true, all you are doing is showing why referenda are a bad idea.

No, it's because almost every credible economic commentator says we will be. The two or three who don't either want us to remove regulations providing consumer and/or worker protection or have free trade deals allowing places like China to dump cheap goods on us taking all our jobs.

I think those claims from these people that they 'respect the will of the people' and that they have 'no intention of de-railing the process' can now be discounted. Their sole reason for these challenges is to do just that, and by any means possible. Mrs May, you are the PM - use your power to stop this nonsense. Stand up for the majority and take us out of the EU, Single Market and all.

I don't think she's strong enough to deliver Brexit. Or Brexit the majority voted for.

Dare I say it, Trump would tell these Legal challenge obstacles to do one by now. He's not a perfect president but he is strong on his beliefs and views.. let's see if he's a success at implementing change. Obama was a good talker and diplomatic "people pleaser" like May, but didn't do much.

If we got "our Trump" in 2020 because people are so angry and want change, who knows if it make it more successful as we have a leader who is strong and believes in change? time will tell, I guess.