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Poll suggests public will not accept a Brexit that leaves them worse off |
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We were all pretty much made worse off in 2008 by the financial crash - which was presumably entirely down to our EU membership.
The economy goes up and down for lots of factors and will do so in the future whether we are in the EU or not.In the end People need to consider the long term benefits over the short term impacts - something as a country which generally on so many issues like the deficit, the NHS and social care and pensions we are totally failing to do. As for these endless polls - did remain win by 10 per cent as the final published on 23 June suggested? Ask the right question and you can get any answer you want in a poll! |
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Caveat Emptor.
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BIB - just shows how little people knew about what they were voting for. If the experts predicted they'd be poorer, they chose to ignore then it turns out the experts were right all along, they deserve all they get. |
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Who paid for the poll?
The Manchester Gaurdian is a tax avoiding gutter rag much worse than the Daily Mail because the DM does have some good articles from time to time, Tim Farron is a ****wit who is totally untrustworthy and a parasite on the boil of the butt of humanity. If Farron was around at the birth of Jesus and one of the three wise men I reckon he would have brought despair rather than gold. |
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Hang on a minute, a poll said something, and we are supposed to take it seriously able we??
Haha, don't make me laugh!! People are still trusting of polls, come on now, haven't we learnt anything in recent times? Do not believe any polls! It is quite that simple! |
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Whether it proves right or wrong to leave the EU the decision has been made. The problem I have at the moment is the constant accusation that people were not told leaving the EU would mean leaving the single market when David Cameron, George Osborne made it abundantly clear to the public that would be the case.
. In fact, there were plenty on the Leave side who said (based on nothing factual) that we could stay in the single market and not have freedom of movement because the EU needed our trade more than we needed theirs. That's the reality. |
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BIB - just shows how little people knew about what they were voting for. |
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When dawn breaks in the New Year and Mrs May's political pygmies are still trying to cobble together a Brexit deal to try and appease all parties, many of the 52-percenters will wake up to the calamity they have brought upon us all and there will be trouble. Mrs May, valiantly trying to protect herself from the scattergun ejaculations of 'I'll do it my way' Johnson and others, will find it increasingly difficult to control the wilder horsemen and women of the 'we want our county back' and 'immigrants out' cavalry. This will get much worse as the fangs of recession bite, interest rates go up, job prospects down, and the economy plummets. Is that why Our Lady of Downing Street has acquired that expensively tailored pair of brown leather trousers? She will certainly need them, and a stout pair of boots and a good, thick, blanket to deflect what will be hitting the fan. It's going to be fun!
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Nice leap of imagination you have there, now would you mind doing something useful that the Guardian hasn't and pinpoint precisely which poll this nugget of possible nonsense comes from. I can't find it via a google or Yougov search, so I assume it's a minor question buried in some other poll. Before you dig it out for me (us) you might want to entertain yourself with this other Yougov offering:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/11/03...are-stuck-den/ Indeed James (as above) however the Guardian says a Remain group and another link I just saw denied that (reddit I think it was). I'd like to see who commissioned it, the sample size, the whole poll and all it's questions, the specific wording for the question the OP's beloved Guardian is reporting on etc... (the Guardian does usually link to the actual poll details, but not in this case).
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What can the people do?
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Mr Strut, would you like to come and stay with us for Christmas, I need cheering up...
![]() ![]() Mr. Strut will be busy clearing up after the reindeers.
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Mr Strut, would you like to come and stay with us for Christmas, I need cheering up...
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![]() ![]() Mr. Strut will be busy clearing up after the reindeers.You could also invite aurichie (who will announce that he knows there's an Easter Egg in his Christmas gift) and trevgo to peel the onions for roasting - why waste anyone else's ?
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John, please upload a vid of when you play Charades and it's Strut's turn.
You could also invite aurichie (who will announce that he knows there's an Easter Egg in his Christmas gift) and trevgo to peel the onions for roasting - why waste anyone else's ?
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BIB - just shows how little people knew about what they were voting for. |
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Worth reminding the OP and others of the growth in personal and national debt since 1973 and the erosion of the paypacket over the past several years.
In the past 6 years, on average, Polish pay has gone up 23%, Germany 14%, France 11%. The UK's has gone done 10%. This is due to the Tories pushing zero hour contracts, temporary roles & creating an environment of job insecurity. |
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Mr Strut, would you like to come and stay with us for Christmas, I need cheering up...
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John, please upload a vid of when you play Charades and it's Strut's turn.
You could also invite aurichie (who will announce that he knows there's an Easter Egg in his Christmas gift) and trevgo to peel the onions for roasting - why waste anyone else's ?Quote:
Don't forget to invite Ash-M1...but make sure you watch the Queen's speech on the Beeb...
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Nothing to do with Europe.
In the past 6 years, on average, Polish pay has gone up 23%, Germany 14%, France 11%. The UK's has gone done 10%. This is due to the Tories pushing zero hour contracts, temporary roles & creating an environment of job insecurity. So it's because we're in the EU that the country is doing well financially. But it's the Tories fault that people aren't doing well financially. Forgive my confusion, I'm a brexiter, so therefore uneducated beyond the age of 5, when I had to leave school and go and clean chimneys. |
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![]() ![]() Mr. Strut will be busy clearing up after the reindeers. |
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My heart bleeds for them.
If the experts predicted they'd be poorer, they chose to ignore then it turns out the experts were right all along, they deserve all they get. |
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What s great idea. I'm sure Brexiters would line up to buy it if I told them it was sprinkled with stardust. I'm off to get me shovel!
![]() It's good that we can find the laughter in all this.Perhaps you should stay somewhere else this season though, John's Incontinent Home is filling up with some right wet blankets. |
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Of course, these polls are always 100% accurate, aren`t they ? A decision has been made, for better or worse and it now needs to be implemented as soon as possible. You make your choice and you live with the consequences. Another "Told you so" thread. Desperate or what?
Ever heard of the saying "cut off your nose to spite your face"? |
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Nothing to do with Europe.
In the past 6 years, on average, Polish pay has gone up 23%, Germany 14%, France 11%. The UK's has gone done 10%. This is due to the Tories pushing zero hour contracts, temporary roles & creating an environment of job insecurity. |
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Rightio, will have to speak to Matron to see if there are enough rooms vacant, I'm sure they will be made most welcome in the Incontinent Home our motto 'Come on in and fill yer boots'
God rest ye merry Brexiters Awash in festive cheer The boss has pinched your presents And watered down your beer They've starved the poor old turkey There's nothing left inside The fairy's down the food bank And the tree is looking bare We want our country back, they shout None of your foreign muck Trouble is we've forgotten How much comes in by truck The wine, cheese and Prosecco Do send more over to us We didn't mean to dis you We need you after all |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...lib-dem-yougov
BIB - just shows how little people knew about what they were voting for. |
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The economy goes up and down for lots of factors and will do so in the future whether we are in the EU or not.
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