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Old 11-12-2016, 13:13
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I wouldn't say she nailed it at all. I hated the skirt swishing too. I thought it was one of Louise's weakest weeks. But it wasn't mum dancing. People underestimate the work put into a routine.
She surely works hard but I don't think all the costumes and stuff for her hair is chosen well IMO. Costume doesn't always compliment her steps. Whereas Oti's costumes always compliment her dancing. The AT costume for Louise was not good IMO.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:16
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I wouldn't say she nailed it at all. I hated the skirt swishing too. I thought it was one of Louise's weakest weeks. But it wasn't mum dancing. People underestimate the work put into a routine.
BIB. Absolutely not - especially when they have two dances in one week.

I was responding to your comment that she had reasonably good technique (I shouldn't have said 'nailed' ), rather than agreeing with the previous post about mum dancing .

The judges seemed to think she nailed it though .





Or did they?
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:18
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Well spotted Louise is almost just marking it on the spot there.
That may be deliberate to allow Kevin to travel around her.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:23
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Some people (especially the judges) keep going on about this dramatic transformation we've seen in Louise, from shy wallflower to confident and exuberant but I just don't see it. I see barely any difference from the overly controlled dancing and awkward grin of her Flashdance routine to this Samba.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:25
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I am not underestimating her work or the amount of effort that she put into it but, to me (and that's only my opinion) it looked ridiculous. Granted it wasn't her dance and she did what she could but I just thought it was embarrassing.
Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you! Samba is just very difficult. I didn't find it embarrassing. It just needed further development.

(I think when you learn to dance you have to forget about what is and isn't embarrassing. Otherwise you'd never try anything! : So I tend not to think about it from that perspective.)
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:28
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Neat feat, but somehow sluggish and laboured. Kevin overdanced and made her look worse than she was too.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:28
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Some people (especially the judges) keep going on about this dramatic transformation we've seen in Louise, from shy wallflower to confident and exuberant but I just don't see it. I see barely any difference from the overly controlled dancing and awkward grin of her Flashdance routine to this Samba.
I agree. Poor thing came across as being very awkward. Not very wag like at all.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:38
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BIB. Absolutely not - especially when they have two dances in one week.

I was responding to your comment that she had reasonably good technique (I shouldn't have said 'nailed' ), rather than agreeing with the previous post about mum dancing .

The judges seemed to think she nailed it though .

Or did they?
It wasn't brilliant. It wasn't awful. Somewhere in between. Developing well is what and examiner would say. The samba hip action you are referring to often wasn't much in evidence (e.g. In the whisks at the beginning although it was there in the locks later on). I thought she was much better when she was in hold with Kevin Yes, I think she was overmarked this week.
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Old 11-12-2016, 13:38
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I agree. Poor thing came across as being very awkward. Not very wag like at all.
And that may be part of her appeal. Although in seriousness I doubt Louise is defined by being Mrs Redknapp in the public consciousness.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:00
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If you have a look at this video, from 3.30 on Kevin starts doing batucadas and Louise is doing something very different.
It is also very obvious that it was choreographed that way - louise marked the spot Kevin traveled round her

Samba was always not going to be her dance she is too reserved for it - but they had no choice as their only options for second dance was salsa or samba unfortunate either so late in the series for them
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:04
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Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you! Samba is jusr very difficult. I didn't find it embarrassing. It just needed further development.

(I think when you learn to dance you have to forget about what is and isn't embarrassing. Otherwise you'd never try anything! : So I tend not to think about it from that perspective.)
I agree that is a very difficult dance. I usually don't like Ballroom Sambas because they resemble very little the samba danced in Brazil these days, so when they go on about "Hur Hur, Rio Carnival" I despair. It certainly originates from the Carmen Miranda era but it hasn't evolved as such.

I almost feel bad writing this about Louise because she is very nice, a very nice lady, so it almost feels like running over a puppy but I had to say something, really.

(I'm not sure embarrassing is the word I'm looking for but I can't think of any other right now)
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:06
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I didn't like BOTH of her dances last night but the Samba especially, it lacked hip action and bounce, and she looked stiff and tense.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:09
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It is also very obvious that it was choreographed that way - louise marked the spot Kevin traveled round her

Samba was always not going to be her dance she is too reserved for it - but they had no choice as their only options for second dance was salsa or samba unfortunate either so late in the series for them
But that is my point, bendymixer. You and Ann are trained dancers and can spot something like that but to me, Joe Public, it just looked like she was doing something different, like she was supposed to be doing the same as Kevin's but not getting it quite right.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:17
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I am not underestimating her work or the amount of effort that she put into it but, to me (and that's only my opinion) it looked ridiculous. Granted it wasn't her dance and she did what she could but I just thought it was embarrassing.
It was a tough dance to have in a two-dance week - Louise's expression I think showed that she felt herself she hadn't totally mastered it. The score of 36 seemed.. generous.

Kevin covered for Louise by over-dancing, putting in a showy batucada section for himself whilst his partner was stepping in place, and finished with a few extra moves for himself and a closing spin. I was having flashbacks to Giovanni and Laura's Week 7 Bamboleo Samba at times.

But to be fair to Craig, he called out Kevin on the over-dancing (as he did Giovanni in Week 7).
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:39
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I thought Louise danced it well enough, I just didn't enjoy it .
Agree.
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Old 11-12-2016, 14:55
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i thought the styling of BOTh louise's dances was dreadful, and samba wasn't her best, but she still has very good feet, probably the best in the competition. might not be the biggest, showiest, loudest in the comp but her footwork is really lovely.
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Old 11-12-2016, 15:02
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Considering she was a judge on a dance show, I'm surprised how Claudia eclipses her in the technical and presentation departments. As much as Len would like us to believe, Louise has had a head start on Claudia but it doesn't seem to show.
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Old 11-12-2016, 15:10
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It was a boring dance & who decided it would be good to dress her like a cockatoo?
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Old 11-12-2016, 15:15
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If this was Claudia she will be crucified with 8's and 7's... I still don't understand this Samba was a mark higher than Claudia's Rumba?
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Old 11-12-2016, 15:15
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Considering she was a judge on a dance show, I'm surprised how Claudia eclipses her in the technical and presentation departments. As much as Len would like us to believe, Louise has had a head start on Claudia but it doesn't seem to show.
I disagree. Louise in the main has been better technically and yes I guess Claudia has better presentation if you are not interested in fluidity.
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Old 11-12-2016, 15:44
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It was the same old Louise. Almost a journey for her but not quite. Too precise technically and she couldn't express the soul of the dance. Her movements had enough quality to be expressive but they said little. Not over marked though.
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Old 11-12-2016, 17:30
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It was boring as heck, and she look embarrassed to be doing it. That dance was worth 7s or 8s at best.
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Old 11-12-2016, 18:37
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Nicole Cutler, who knows what she's talking about, liked it.
https://twitter.com/nicolecutler/sta...72741696573441

Although, as commented earlier, I agree it was lacking in performance.
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Old 11-12-2016, 18:58
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Nicole Cutler, who knows what she's talking about, liked it.
https://twitter.com/nicolecutler/sta...72741696573441

Although, as commented earlier, I agree it was lacking in performance.
She also said, Claudia's QS was really good... and she love it the most...
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Old 11-12-2016, 19:07
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I didn't like BOTH of her dances last night but the Samba especially, it lacked hip action and bounce, and she looked stiff and tense.
I totally agree and do think she was over marked in both. Especially the Samba. No way was that a 36. I do think if anyone else had danced it like she did they would have not got a 36.
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