Been a Guardian reader for years but over the last few weeks, its content leaves me feeling irritated. Too much moaning, too many minorities centre stage, just as many high-end homes/gifts/pursuits.

I bought the Telegraph yesterday. It was quite good. Am I turning into a Tory?

No - you are just reading a different paper.

The Telegraph has a good sport and business section.

The Mail has more human interest stories and has excellent women's, health and money sections during the week

Most people buy papers cos of the general content - not the politics.

Mr. Blair, many always considered you were a Tory.

Haven't bought a newspaper in years, quite often view newspaper sites online but I have no allegiance to any of them, some are better at some stuff than others though I can't say the Guardian is.

It probably takes more than one issue to do that. If after a couple of weeks you start to complain about inheritance tax, and think Junior Doctors are a bunch of whining layabouts, then you should consider switching to the i, or something to balance it out

I buy the Telegraph once or twice a week for the cryptic crossword. It used to be an old fashioned news-driven paper with a conservative editorial stance but without any overt agenda, but now it's more like a modern opinion-driven mouthpiece for its owners' views.

Sad, really, because some of its writers are very good. The film reviews are better-written than the Times's and less opinionated than the Guardian's, some of the advice columns are good, although Honest John is a shadow of his former self.

But if you want investigative reporting or thought-provoking commentary on events, the Times or the Guardian are the ones to go for. And a fresh pack of Saxa to take a pinch of whilst you read them.

That made me chuckle

I stopped taking the Grauniad seriously just before the Brexit vote, they have become so hysterical over events that have taken place this year, they have lost the plot. It has gone the way of the Independent and lost all sense of perspective and reason, much of the stuff it produces is clickbait like the Indy and Buzzfeed. It has a panel of commentators who seem so against the working class, especially those who don't share their liberal metropolitan elite view of the world. Its become a paper for the luvvies and the dahlings of trendy North London.

Reading another paper doesn't necessarily chave your political view, however reading more than one paper IMHO is a good thing. I read several during the week, Telegraph, Times, FT, Metro and Guardian. I try to avoid tabloids (even though the Metro technically is one) as they are very sensationalist and unbalanced.

Being honest if you at least read more than one source you will develop a more informed opinion, jusy don't expect the Sun or the Mirror to be unbiased in any way.

I find the Telegraph is getting clickbatey online unfortunately, recently it's started reposting youtube video's.

Very much the same and you can usually see where they cancel each other out in terms of hyperbole - eg The Express and Independent online offerings.
Recently the Guardian seems to have been picking up Independent nonsense and turning it into 'stories'. They must know it's nonsense, twisted or regurgitated and stretched stuff. It's a shame because the Guardian, for all its Polly stuff and handwringing opinion has always been a good site, especially on 'live' coverage and actually reported decent economy figures fairly and how Project Fear had failed to materialise.

You tube videos - the horror?

Tunbridge Wells will be outraged!

Bit that really annoys me is they add a 30 second ad, easier to search for it on youtube as it streams faster and better quality.

... as long as you don't read the Mail you are fine with me.

The Telegraph is basically the mail nowadays.

Both it and the guardian have fallen pretty far from the quality they used to be

Must need the money from the ads

What you mean outrage at the morality of Britain coupled with pictures of barely legal young ladies not wearing many clothes.

I don't have an alligence to any paper and buy none of them, I did read the Mirror Monday to Friday with their app untill recently when it was free, but now they're charging I don't bother. For politics I don't think it's a good idea only reading a paper with your own viewpoints, and its better to read papers from both sides, then take the reality as somewhere in the middle of what they claim.

The only time I read "the papers" these days is when someone links to an article, I am perpetually amused by the people who seek out media with which they don't agree for (what looks like) the sole purpose of being offended.

I know some people who hate what The Mail publishes and yet they visit their website everyday, or have the app.

I've had to start using ad blocking software on some newspaper websites. The Independent website is really bad because of the sheer number of highly resource-hungry adverts causing my browser to crash. I'd blame my machine if this particular one wasn't designed for, and happily copes with, handling virtual reality gaming. My under-powered office laptop just freezes up if I go to some of these websites.

DS forums, The Guardian and BBC websites are all fine (well most of the time, in the case of DS), though the DS website itself has completely bought into the modern replacement for flashing text that is the animated GIF. I hate those and they cause browsers so many problems.

So my objections are mostly technical rather than the actual content itself, though there are some newspaper websites I just won't go near any more.

The Telegraph I have no interest in due to their bias in favour of Brexit. Some bias is fine and to be expected of any newspaper, but they've gone way beyond that, as have the DM and Express. All very much post-truth newspapers.

No, no they dont' Not just the so called journalists and avid readership of that paper/site either, all of them. For some things people don't actually know, care or look elsewhere. For others people do actually know, but just cannot step outside of their own comfort zone, defending the indefensible in some instances. All part of the social media 'generation' and now enormous level of preconceived agenda driven journalism (currently being spun as the people's fault/doing because of 'post truth' or 'fake news' etc...).

The courage the Guardian showed in exposing phone hacking at the News of the World turned me into a Guardian reader. It's not perfect, but no paper is. And there are news sources other than papers, like Buzzfeed and the BBC.

Katherine Viner who replaced Alan Rusbridger (The man who exposed Murdoch's phone hacking) in 2015 has done an terrible job at The Guardian

The neoliberal/snobby turn they have taken wouldn't have happened under Rusbridger.

Are newspaper sales diminishing? It seems like an outdated concept to go out and buy one every day or have it shoved through your door. People are getting busier and technology is taking over.

The Telegraph is gradually morphing into a tabloid, it's popular news stories are typically about strictly come dancing or ex factor or some other celebrity tittle tattle. The style in which it delivers its news and politics is barely distinguishable from the Mail or at times the Sun.

I agree. I used to read the telegraph daily, but the some items are barely disguised propaganda. Really getting stick for a news source except Reuters.

Apropos of nothing much at all (or quite a lot if you think about it), this thread title has nudged a memory from my dim and distant past, when in about 1960 there were major ructions in our household over my Dad's decision to change our newspaper from the (then Manchester) Guardian to the Telegraph.

The final straw for him was how the Guardian was reporting the then raging Algerian War of Independence - in particular the way in which the then fairly novel terror campaign (random bombing of civilian targets) was carried out not by the Algerians but by the white settlers and their anti-independence organisation the OAS, often aided and abetted by the French military. This was especially confusing for me, a fairly precocious ten year old, whose world view was taken from comics (Germans and dark skins bad - white skins good) though from memory the BBC wasn't much more balanced.

My Mum bless her was really annoyed about this, though mostly from losing her favourite Guardian columnists than any right-on liberal political leanings. My Dad, very much a Midlander Alf Garnett, found his spiritual home in the Telegraph whose enthusiasm for truth burying remains undimmed to this day, though it's more likely now to be for fear of offending its advertisers or their owners' (the Fabulous Barclay Brothers) commercial interests.