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Didn't Edinburgh have an aggressive begging law/act introduced a few years ago after that homeless nutter called "The Kaiser" was causing mayhem?
There are a lot of the eastern European identikit beggar woman who all look the same and usual just sit prostate on the ground with hands in the prayer position. I have seen a minibus dropping them off in the early morning! They are pretty benign and I have never been accosted by any of them but jeez there are a lot of them and they must impact the genuine local homeless people's takings. My mum works with Edinburgh churches that put on a night shelter that gives them food and a hall to sleep in every night in winter across various churches in Edinburgh and she says they don't see any of these woman. I suppose it's a plus that the fake women are not wasting the resources of the church/charities. |
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There were beggars everywhere yesterday "have you any spare change?" hanging around KP and in town earlier.
I've seen threads on here about it and I never give them anything because of them spending it on booze and drugs. I have now started to give money to One Roof and told them when they ask for money to go there if they need food/shelter etc. They've been polite enough so far. Would anyone else do that - say no mate, I'm not giving you money, but I give it to a homeless charity, get yourself down there? |
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I remember reading of a woman in London who offered a beggar a few quids worth of Luncheon Vouchers some years ago, and was told to stick them up her a**e.
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There were beggars everywhere yesterday "have you any spare change?" hanging around KP and in town earlier.
I've seen threads on here about it and I never give them anything because of them spending it on booze and drugs. I have now started to give money to One Roof and told them when they ask for money to go there if they need food/shelter etc. They've been polite enough so far. Would anyone else do that - say no mate, I'm not giving you money, but I give it to a homeless charity, get yourself down there? As you say, you don't know if they will spend it on booze or drugs. The only other thing I've done is bought food for someone, but he seemed more like a tramp type homeless person rather than a druggie begging for money. |
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There were beggars everywhere yesterday "have you any spare change?" hanging around KP and in town earlier.
I've seen threads on here about it and I never give them anything because of them spending it on booze and drugs. I have now started to give money to One Roof and told them when they ask for money to go there if they need food/shelter etc. They've been polite enough so far. Would anyone else do that - say no mate, I'm not giving you money, but I give it to a homeless charity, get yourself down there? |
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What do you expect a homeless person to buy, a wall unit? a suit? I wouln't judge them for 'wasting' it on drink and drugs, that what I do with my money.
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I bung them a couple of quid most nights in the winter when they need hostels, in the summer sometimes I am envious of them as they all sit around having a sing song
, but in winter they need more if they end up having enough for some booze or a bit of gear then good luck to them
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There were beggars everywhere yesterday "have you any spare change?" hanging around KP and in town earlier.
I've seen threads on here about it and I never give them anything because of them spending it on booze and drugs. I have now started to give money to One Roof and told them when they ask for money to go there if they need food/shelter etc. They've been polite enough so far. Would anyone else do that - say no mate, I'm not giving you money, but I give it to a homeless charity, get yourself down there? |
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Not noticed more beggars, just an increase of beggar threads.
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What do you expect a homeless person to buy, a wall unit? a suit? I wouln't judge them for 'wasting' it on drink and drugs, that what I do with my money.
exactly, I was talking to a 17 year old who was kipping around the back of the Corinthia Hotel because that was the best place to keep out of the wind, he had one of them foam hands as a pillow I think he deserves a few Super Ts to warm him up
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I just give them cash and let them spend it how they please. Food alone doesn't get you off the streets.
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Didn't Edinburgh have an aggressive begging law/act introduced a few years ago after that homeless nutter called "The Kaiser" was causing mayhem?
There are a lot of the eastern European identikit beggar woman who all look the same and usual just sit prostate on the ground with hands in the prayer position. I have seen a minibus dropping them off in the early morning! They are pretty benign and I have never been accosted by any of them but jeez there are a lot of them and they must impact the genuine local homeless people's takings. My mum works with Edinburgh churches that put on a night shelter that gives them food and a hall to sleep in every night in winter across various churches in Edinburgh and she says they don't see any of these woman. I will give wiling to charities that help me he genuine British homeless but I do not give to beggars on the street. |
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It's not too bad around here, mostly just the drunks begging for cash these days. A few years ago though there were Romanian beggars everywhere. In the town, in the supermarket car parks trying to take your trolley back for a quid. Even at the boot sales.
It's not a very affluent area though so I reckon they gave up an moved on after a few Months. |
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A fair few in my city. Most are housed but have experienced homelessness in the past. They make a good whack so keep on doing it. Even people buying them food or drink means they have more money to spend on their vices.
The best way to help is to refer them to local services. A lot will be well known by outreach teams though and will be getting some form of support. |
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I'll be reserving a place for a homeless person this Christmas, especially as it includes a healthcheck and future support. https://community.crisis.org.uk/chri...paign=homepage
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I'll be reserving a place for a homeless person this Christmas, especially as it includes a healthcheck and future support. https://community.crisis.org.uk/chri...paign=homepage
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when I read that I thought everyone was giving two grand
![]() I'll stick to handing out some coinage, it seems that crisis don't provide special brew, so for that is where I come in
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Funny, most of the beggars where I live in Kent are Scottish!
The sooner we have Scottish independence, the sooner we can deport all the scrounging foreigners! /s |
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Not near as bad as the chuggers, big issue sellers or the knocks at the door followed by "Hello, I'm Dean from Middlesbrough".
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Not many where I live but we get a few regular faces at my local shopping centre. It always makes me sad to see them as im sure this is not what they planned out for their lives and there must have been a point at which maybe someone could have stepped in and helped them earlier on before events spiralled to leave them living in such a chaotic way. I don't give to individual beggars but I do give to charities who try and support homeless people in a productive way.
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It is often illegal to feed pigeons. Why is it not illegal to buy beggars drugs or drink ? As that is what people who give money to beggars are doing.
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Yep it's really shot up over the last couple of years in Luton.
After seeing with my own eyes quite obvious examples of it being gang run,I'm now very reluctant to give any money. |
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Ive just had a vagrant type call in my shop politely asking for £1 to add to his £2 to 'top up his oyster card' to get to his destination. Probably conned but it was only £1.
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In town on Saturday, I was surprised to see gypsies handing out heather in a bit of tinfoil and basically leading people to the cash machine! It's worse than begging really because the invade your personal space and target people, usually the old. I thought that kind of begging had died out.
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I just give them cash and let them spend it how they please. Food alone doesn't get you off the streets.
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, but in winter they need more if they end up having enough for some booze or a bit of gear then good luck to them

