Because Louise is dull as dishwater and dances like a Mum who has just cooked the kids some dinner and is bopping to radio 2, and Ore is an over-marked cry-baby who cannot hold it together and makes me want to run onto the show and slap him round the face and shout "pull it together man!"

But not everyone has anger management issues. And some people like or identify with dull.

What will Louise bring to a show-dance - at best, an in-time float around the dance-floor where Kevin performs all the difficult moves.

What would Claudia have brought to a show-dance??

Its a real shame people voted to keep Louise in, based on some bland but OK dances. Clearly people enjoy being put to sleep these days...

Haha! I think youre right, anger management issues

If people were so desperate to watch Claudia's showdance I'm sure some of her floor routines are on Youtube...

As a long time lurker of this forum I have been shocked by the vitriol that has been vented on here over the last few weeks and in particular over the last 24 hours.

I have a few thoughts:

1 We are all different, we like different things and different people. We may like one contestant because we idenitfy with them, because they are nice people in their day job or even because they are a better dancer than you would ever hope to be. If we all liked the same thing then there would be no Strictly because we would all vote for the same person, but we dont.

2, We all have the right to express our opinions, we live in a country that has always fought for that right. But with that right comes a responsibility to accept that that opinion might be different from others, but that the other person is just exercising ther right to freedom of speech. It leads back to my first point.

3. Things don't always go our way, we might not that promotion, our football doesnt always win and someone we dont like might just get something that we think someone else should have. That is life, we just have to accept that some you win and some you lose.

4. We have different experiences in life, we arent all parents, we aren't all able bodied enough to move unaided, we arent all talented, we aren't all perfect, but we are all special in our own way. Celebrate that fact, rejoice in the idea that I can't dance as well as the people on that Strictly show but i can enjoy others who can!

5. When your favourite doesnt win, it doesnt mean anything, you dont get penalised for it the same as you dont get personally thanked when you pick the eventual winner. We can feel pleased that we were perceptive enough to see the qualities in the winner but we dont suffer in anyway if we voted for someone else, (We save that for general elections and referenda!!)

And my final thought, I promise!
5. I spend mytime imparting this wisdom to 5 year olds and they are clever enough, genourous enough and kind spirited enough to understand that we cant win everything all the time but we can have a lot of fun taking part!! I take my lead from my 5 year olds, Laugh lots, cry a little but enjoy everything!!

My five year olds would be horrified by the behaviour of some on these boards over the last few weeks.

I shall return to lurking in thhe wings as it is safer there!!

Well, with that impartial and fair minded analysis, you've certainly changed my mind. I don't know why I didn't see it before!

You say conspiracy I say manipulation. And several of the responses in this thread have put forward reasons for a possible manipulation. The judges scores, which i found rather odd, and did not represent what many of us saw, helped to determine the result.

Absolutely.

This is how it should be, but I feel that what production want, is more important.

So what are you actually saying?

And so it has been from the first SCD, yet the judges have often docked points for poor choreography.

Yes - lots of production manipulation there, gaberich! This is what I mean, production know who they want in the final and can always find ways of 'persuading' the voting public.
Personally, I have no beef with the Cliftons and I vote for dance/s I have enjoyed most. I thought Claudia's rumba was very good, didn't make me cringe like many of them do, and her QS was the dance of the series, even though I would have said Ed's gangnam style was, but her QS was amazing.

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Well I voted for Anton & Lesley because I like them both and loved their relationship.
After that I had no favourites, enjoyed Danny's dancing the most and expected him to win.
Then Ed did his gangnam dance & I kept on voting for him until, sadly, he went.
Last week I loved AJ's & Claudia's dance the most, I also thought they looked incredibly cute in their lion makeup. but didn't vote for anyone.
This week I was blown away by AJ's & Claudia's dances and gave them lots of votes.

So I vote as I see.

The BBC is only partially subject to the FoIA. See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/publication-scheme/excluded

So it can't be "forced" to reveal the figures. I'd love to see them too and can't see any compelling reason why they can't be published at series end, as with almost every other reality-type show.

Claudia was out because she isnt in the Strictly Tour, and if she won (as its a public vote) they would be stuffed. So best to boot her out now, and keep Danny in who CAN be in the tour.

Ore is over rated, and Louise is just plain boring to be fair (nice lass though).

Which leaves Danny to win, simple!

Louise is a terrific dancer and has demonstrated that with several of her dances, very graceful, very expressive and can really connect with the audience....Claudia - although impressive at the weekend - has never really managed to do this. That's why she aint in the final. Move on

So are the posters who say that Alesha missed the tour the year she won wrong? The tour still went ahead, and the BBC obviously had no hard feelings about it because they went on to make Alesha a judge.

the cobblers people speak when they've been whipped into a frenzy by their social media feeds never fails to amuse me .....yes, Danny got through because he's on the tour...nothing to do with wiping the floor with virtually every other dancer since week one....oh no, **** all to do with that ...its a dirty rotten conspiracy I tells ya.....they're all in on it

I watched it back - he did four!
Anyone else would have been absolutely slated for that?

I was responding to bettyboom43's apparent claim that only those willing to go on the Tour could be risked as finals fodder, and then I gave another disgruntled poke with my perceived belief that Claudia was underappreciated (by the judges in particular!)

Well I am hoping to see a beautiful classic waltz or Foxtrot free of the flash and trash that usually infects the showdance round and which show cases her beautiful foot work.

Well Said.

The marking on another day could have put Claudia top, danny second, and louise/ore equal third. The jooodges would have got away with that just as easily as Saturday's fiasco. That way round Claudia would have walked through.
The public vote this week could have been 1.Louise 2.Claudia3.Ore and 4.Danny.
That would have still put Claudia in the DO ...
thats how they wanted it though, sadly...

I'm sorry but are you really complaining on the basis that if it had been different it wouldn't have been the same? It's amazing that you're not a candidate to take over from Len, isn't it?

So did I.


I think that appeals to a lot of people, doesn't it? She's a self-insert for a lot of the viewing audience. Caroline Flack won, after all, and she wasn't any less dull.

And everything said in post 156. (Please keep posting, Tango2Fandango.)

So why was Anita Rani who did tour eliminated in the semi by Katie Derham who did not? Would they not have been 'stuffed' if Katie had won it by your weird theory?

Looking further I see you may be right and the www.starsheiight.com site has cocked up, since the kevincliftonfans blog claims he is 5'8" (and fanatics are often nauseatingly right about the object of their affections!) Still he does appear to favour built up shoes.

It doesn't alter the fact that diminutive female celebs are very hard done by when they are partnered by the average Strictly pro. Maybe TPTB should bite the bullet and find a couple of genuine talented short male dancers to give the Claudias, Lesleys, Danis and Lulus of the celeb world a fighting chance.

Claudia may have found a way of looking comparatively good with someone over a foot taller than her but she had her gymnastic flexibility and core strength to keep her from having her face buried in AJ's chest half the time unlike the way Lulu couldn't cope before being slagged off by Craig in her ill fated partnership with Brendan.

Seconded!

There seems to be disbelief that [1] Louise must have topped the public vote at the weekend; [2] Claudia couldn't galvanise sufficient number of the pubic to vote for her; and [3] Danny isn't as popular as many seem to think he should be. Yet they are obvious for all to see.

The hysteria on here by everyone screaming 'fix', just because they don't like what has happened - which has now been turned into newspaper headlines by the anti-BBC Sun - is ridiculous and also unjustifiable. It only damages Strictly, and if that's what some FMs want, they should at least be honest about it.

There's always overmarking/undermarking in SCD - and always has been. This year, the problem is that the apparently semi-pro Danny is leagues ahead of everyone else technically - which leaves the producers with a problem: how to maintain the illusion of 'who's going to win'? And the judges are the perfect means to do that. But this isn't new - and it's actually a LOT less blatant than what happened in SCD6.